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I got a FaceTime/live video tour yesterday! The place does look very nice and is large! Almost all client activities/Bar(s)/locker rooms are on the first two floors, garotos lockers on the 4th floor!they have a nice new showers and bathrooms for the boys on their floor along with ty he a fitness center and also nice new bathrooms showers for clients on the second floor. The area above the dance floor and stage does up 2 stories so you can sit on the main floor or in two different areas on the 2nd floor and see the shows and people watch, there are two bars. It is approximately 6 blocks from 117. They had alot of workers in there Sunday but doubtiful it will be open this weekend! They are anitipating Monday and Friday being their biggest days initially....

After 2 visits to Nice Boys in the last week, it’s been very quiet with few customers and not many boys. The bosses have spruced up the bar somewhat with animal prints covered the seating. With Sunee Plaza now in its death throes, Nice Boys had been a reason to go but not lately. I hope it can revive. Dragon 789 around the corner has closed and Winner Boys and Eros also very short of boys. It’s low season but I still wonder if Sunee Plaza will stay viable until high season. i see many boys I know from Sunee now in Jomtien Complex.

I am in Rio! Azul's flight from Baires was great, I was in my Airbnb in Copacabana by 8:30 PM. As I was tired, instead of going to 117, I went to 202. The lady in the counter warned me that Sunday was a slow day. I walked in and a group of about 7 GPs were hanging out in the bar, and I was the immediate focus of attention, as there were not many clients around. Carlos, a mountain of muscles (not my type) gave me a very warm welcome, but I invited him with a drink and did my best to get ride of him. When I was starting to regret my decision to go to the closest sauna instead of going to the best one, I hooked up with Diego. Diego is a pretinho I had met in Salvador, who is one of @numazu1's boys. Our friend (he still reads the forums now and then) likes sending me pictures of his harem to make me jealous, and Diego is actually the only boy in his crew that I always loved. I was not in the mood to fuck, so we just made up, he did a programa, and came back to me and we kept making out. He is an excellent kisser and exactly the kind of guy I like: athletic, smooth, and not over muscular. We left together just a few minutes ago and made an appointment for tomorrow. We are going to spend the day in the beach, besides playing, and he quoted me only R150. Of course, I am going to be much more generous than that, the guys is delicious. I am disappointed at Grindr. When I arrive to Baires o Corrientes, the app does not stop hitting me. I have been here for about 4 hours and just 3 hits, all of them not appealing. I need to do grocery shopping, I am starving.

that's right, bargaining is joy killer but when necessary like in answering ' how much you give me ?" question I grant each party right to ONE number for example " how much you give me - 1500 - can you give me 2000?" and then it's yes or no answer

I find it hard to refuse the requests for tips from mamasans who come sit next to me on their own request. Not because I asked them to do that. For me this is very rude to ask then for a tip for a service you never requested. They force a service upon you and then expect a tip while you didn't ask for it. It is like I see you crossing the street. I run to you. Hold your arm and we cross together and then ask you a tip for this. While you didn't ask for my help. It should be illegal. It's extortion. I left Hotmale bar last night because of the extreme demand for tipping. They more or less force you to tip every boy in the show and every mamasan. The show boys go into the public with their hard cock and want you to touch it and then expect a 100 baht tip. If you say "No" they keep asking, also rude: a no answer is not respected really, they keep asking. All of them that are on stage come to you for a tip. Then the mamasans who ask for tips and drinks. It was becoming so extreme that I left. Very rude behaviour. Never again Hotmale bar for me. Feels horrible. Sometimes I can resist however. Sometimes I can't. I pay half the time, but I prefer 0 of the time. Unless in these rare cases that I request a service. But to be honest I am perfectly capable myself to wave a boy over to sit with me and to ask the waiter for the bill. I do notice your bill was only 750. You didn't buy the boy a drink? I am always asked to do that when I have a boy over.

Just bumped into a blued live showing this tv series, and i recognized some of the actors, two of which ive been following their IG for a while already. Anyone have watch this series? Any reviews on how good it is before i devote my life trying to find and watching each of the episodes? Lol

In case people haven't already seen the news, the Royal Barge Procession will be October 24. It's the last official event of Rama X's coronation and quite a spectacular occasion. For people interested in such things, it might be worth planning a trip to Bangkok to see. For people who dislike the inevitable traffic and discombobulations these events inevitably cause, you are warned. As always for such events, Richard Barrow is a great source of information. Some preliminary dates are set, but the dates for the rehearsals are not reported yet. Expect crowds and sometimes the rehearsals can be a better opportunity to take pictures. Barrow has a map of potential viewing locations and a lot of other helpful information that he updates as more becomes known. He also helpfully reminds people that the procession takes places later in the afternoon, so people on the Old-Town/Rattanokosin side of the river would be facing into (and taking photos into) the sun, so take that into account in deciding where to join the crowds to watch the procession. Richard Barrow

I will be in Bogota from July 17 to 21 and in Rio and Brazil from July 22 to Aug 14. Anyone willing to have a drink or a chat is welcome to pm me

Last night, I was at Lucky Boys. Called for bill and paid 750 baht for my drink and boy off fee with a 1000 baht note. I was seated with a mamasan who had served me the past 2 nights. Waiter came back and another mamasan also appeared. This particular mamasan would come and sit next to me occasionally (usually when the younger mamasan was away with other customers). He made the usual small talk - “where are you from? How many days you stay?” and throughout the night - “which boy you like?” Absolutely didn’t get my hint that I didn’t want to deal with him. I arranged my off with the younger mamasan. I think the only useful thing the older mamasan did was to clear my ashtray but even then, he didn’t do it himself. He ordered a waiter over to clear it! So there I was waiting for my boy to get changed. Younger mamasan was seated next to me. The change of 250 baht came back in the following denomination: One ten baht coin Two twenty baht notes Two hundred baht notes I gave the twenty baht notes to waiter and mamasan while I kept the hundred baht notes. Mamasan was upset! He gave his twenty baht note to the waiter! And he continued standing there and looking at me, expecting me to tip him one of the hundred baht notes. I didn’t know how to react then. Younger mamasan, with great situational awareness far beyond his age, quickly blurted out, “Your boy is ready. Let me bring you out.” I did not want my night to be ruined so I pushed the incident out of my mind and left the bar to enjoy the night with my boy. By the way, I tipped the younger mamasan 100 baht at the door. This was on top of the 100 baht that I had earlier tipped him for helping me the whole night. Thinking back, in the first place, maybe I should have kept all of the 250 baht change and leave. But on the other hand, perhaps the older waiter felt insulted that he got a tip of the same amount as the waiter. Maybe it is a Thai societal hierarchy thing. My question to fellow forum members - what would you have done and why?

90-Day reporting is your responsibility. If you want to nerd-out, the form is TM-47. You can report online. It doesn't involve your landlord. (But TM-30 usually involves the landlord, see below). The 90-day clock restarts every time you re-enter the country. You can report online, but the window to do so is 15 days before-but-not-less-than 7 days before the 90th day. 90-Day Reporting Online. Now there is also a phone app for that called Immigration eServices for Foreigner or something like that. In the Apple App store you can find it by searching for "Royal Thai Police." (There is also an Android version.) When I signed up for the app it took several days just to register, so take that into account. The online reporting and apps are notoriously finicky. I certainly wouldn't wait until the last day when you can report using these methods. If for whatever reason you don't make the online reporting window, if you are in Bangkok you make the 90-Day report at Chaengwattana. I think 90-day reporting might be one of the few situations where you can send someone to do it for you, but I don't know for certain. You get a receipt (or you print out your receipt if you do it online) and it goes to the immigration officer along with your passport and departure card when you leave.. There are lots of reports of Immigration officers check to see if you have have complied at departure. There is a fine. A different reporting is TM-30 reporting. Bangkok didn't used to care about TM-30 reporting, although offices in some other districts did. But all that has changed very recently and Bangkok is now enforcing TM-30 reporting. To put it mildly, expats have gone bat-shit crazy over this. But it is what it is. Right now it has been coming up in situations where people have had to go to Immigration to "do" something - such as file for an annual extension of stay. They are forced to get current with their TM-30 before anything else will be processed, and there are reports of an 800 baht fine or something like that. The basic rule is that whenever a foreigner stays the night at a hotel or home, a report is supposed to go to Immigration. Hotels do this online and you don't even know about it. The "change" is that Bangkok Immigration is now enforcing it strictly to everyone - not just hotels. So, for example, when you go to stay in your rented apartment, a report is supposed to go in to Immigration. It's easy if your landlord or condo juristic person (office) files the report. The law, however, effectively makes the landlord and the tenant jointly responsible for making sure that the form is filed. So if your landlord doesn't do it you can (and should). You can complete the TM-30 form as "possessor", rather than as owner. I believe that in the Thailand Apple and Google app stores an app is available, but it is not available (or not available yet) in Apple App stores outside Thailand. You can also complete the form on-line. TM-30 Online Reporting (Thai Language). I believe that registration to use the on-line form requires uploading the lease and other specified info. There are reports of people waiting for approval for many weeks. You can also file the TM-30 by mail, just enclose a return stamped envelope for the receipt. Or file in person. Immigration, for whatever reason, seems to be in the midst of a "work to rules" phase, so this is all a bit new and some of the more bonkers fact patterns are still unclear, and practice differs from office to office. For example, if I go visit Chiang Mai and stay in a hotel, the hotel will file a TM-30, but then when I go back to my apartment in Bangkok am I supposed to file (or tell the juristic person to file) a new TM-30 to update the info? Some Immigration offices say yes, some say no, and we don't know what Bangkok Immigration thinks on this vitally important question that is more important than anything else in the world (to some people on Thai Visa). One of Big Oud's recent press conferences was to showcase Immigration making an example of two ladies fined ฿2,000 for failure to report foreigners. The Thai Visa forum is the best resource for finding up-to-date info and read pages and pages of outrage about this (or that). Basically, just look for answers by "UbonJoe" and ignore everyone else. He knows his stuff. Most of the rest are just miserable and cranky complainers. If you are entitled to use the special Immigration Office in Silom (Chamchuri), things might be different for you. Personally, I am not in the country on an annual renewal extension of stay, and I travel in the region enough that I've only had to file a 90-Day report twice, so I expect I'll just ignore TM-30 until I think it could come back to bite me. But that's not advice.

Tipping, the perennial favorite! I would not have tipped anyone, as I don't need any advice from mamasan; and from waiter I only want him to bring my drink, which he is paid for by his employer. Either a reputation as cheapskate precedes me, or I look like a non-tipper, or I immediately forget such incidents, but I don't remember such problem. If someone asks for a tip, he will get a "no" and if he asks again, another "no" and the next person from that bar or elsewhere "no". I'm immune to those requests/demands/expectations, they run off my skin like water on a lotus leaf. When the big cock or fuck show performers roam the audience, I keep my hands on my lap and just smile and say "thank you" when they come to me. Being a single child and having lived alone might help for this: I do not do what others expect/demand/request I do, I do what I think feel doing.

@Latbear4blk, Im really glad you and Diego are hitting it off. And I’m glad my harem is working out for some too lol. So far my Airbnb and boy recommendations have worked out for you. Maybe I should do Brazil travel planning as a hobby lol. Sorry I couldn’t be there, I am (was) in brazil, just not where you were.

Why disappointed? I wonder...but Jupiter2018 got the hottest boys and the hottest show so I'm 100% sure u won't get disappointed!!!

Give it a try again Vinapu!!!

Depends on what you like to do i supposed. If u like massages, some neighbourhood like sathorn, suan phlu might be fun. If you like shopping, the siam paragorn area, pratunam are great place to be. Staying along the river are also great but transport (unless u dont mind the boat) is a bit difficult. Khaosan is backpackers area if you are into that.

Well, Todd's the real expert on green house gas And he hasn't been hot since Willow was born If it keeps up, we'll just drive over to Russia I think the airport thing was way overblown One day a year we can show him our tanks No, not unless something happens to Mike Pence

Update on Nakarat since immigration police raid in June: As regulars are aware, Vietnam guys had a strong presence in this shop. Their departure has thinned the ranks but new faces from other shops are appearing. Like many shops, you can expect the perennial question (as Vinapu noted), “how much you give me?” Fair enough. But I think it’s also fair for customers to respond in the manner of their choosing. Lately, when asked the same thing regardless of location, Ive been replying, “you will make out better if you do what you say and trust me to be fair.” Granted, I often have to resort to google translate but I manage to make the point. If the guy continues to haggle I’ve been simply making it a straight forward massage and tipping accordingly. I’ve become less tolerant of bargaining in my old age. But when the guy leaves the compensation up to me, I tip at the top of my range. i’m not recommending this to everyone; just saying what I’ve found works best for me.

I certainly had a nice time there. Just to add a few factoids. - There are stairs, if that matters. Not as treacherous as the stairs in some places. - The entrance through the restaurant is odd, in a fun way. - I think there are VIP rooms, but don't know. The regular room has massage table, walls don't quite go to the ceiling. Common shower down the hall. - I recall there's a minimum tip, but it doesn't include extras, so be prepared to have that discussion with your guy. - In general the guys there seem to be nice with a good attitude.

VCK

Hi Drim, Your perfect guy is in yesterday’s FB live feed recording.

Also, when we bring strangers back there is always a risk - however slight. Rent your own place or a hotel room since you have no right to place others at risk unless you are traveling together for security. This quoted escapade was in Rio during Carnival???? Safe?

Genau! Not to mention how awkward it would be to explain away the visitor.

Hey, you were right to post. Information is vital to the success of our visits anywhere. Even discovering that we are not fully informed allows for us to become better informed via this process.

Most of the boys are doing this as part time job , temporary job between jobs ,or funding their education and so on.they don't really seeing a future in this job .

I wish I could say the same, LOL

And now guys, 2 conclude my report...that night, I visited again my most fave go go bar Dreamboy. Actually Mr. Perfect Guy told me will have a day-off at that day and he will not be jealous when I off Mr. Runner-up since they are friends. That's what I also like about him, its totally okay for him when I off another boy, just like Mr. Cute Cute Guy b4 in DB Soi Twilight since he is also supportive 2 his brothers...but of course he is still my most fave!!! Upon arrival, I asked Mr. Runner-up from the papasan who is setting-up a gym equipment infront of Dreamboy. He recognized me and told me 2 seat 1st while he called Mr. Runner-up. I was so excited (and horny, lol)!!! @ last, he came-out and he was really attractive 4 me...with his round, expressive eyes and long eyelashes, pointed nose and kissable lips which shows a pearly white teeth...and his gym-fit, white skin body filled with muscles and tattoos (except 4 the abs, as I told b4) which complements his overall look. Mr. Runner-up asked if okay, I said "yes, yes", then told me he will wear top...I like what he's wearing, only boxers, ha ha. I supposed he will also wear on his bottom, bcoz literally its just undies, he he. The papasan invited me 2 go inside 1st while waiting. He said Mr. Perfect Guy did not report that day, I guess he already knew I'll ask about him since he is my regular, haa haa. When Mr. Runner-up returned, I was stunned by his looks...he was wearing a semi-formal dress with long sleeves and slacks, that's quite a change. I said 2 him "ur so formal" and he smiled in response, omg, I love those sincere smile!!! I paid the off fee to the long-haired mamasan who also told me Mr. Perfect Guy did not report that day. I'm really associated 2 him, that's all I can say, lol, I miss him though. Then Mr. Runner-up and I walked 2 my hotel and we had a very nice and interesting conversation. I learned more about him and I love looking at his gorgeous face, especially when he smile. At last we arrived 2 my hotel and as soon as we go inside, I asked him if he needs anything and he said water so I get 1 from the fridge. After drinking, he stripped his clothes, WOW, I LIKE this!!! When he only wears his boxers, he asked me 2 strip. I LOVE looking on his muscles and tattoos and even ask him if I can touch it 2 which he agreed. While touching him, ahem, he undress me which excites me!!! Then, he left my undies as he pull down his boxers...WOWOW, he is UNCUT. In my sweetest voice I asked "can I touch it?" and he agrees with a smile. Tbh, I did not noticed that he's uncut during the show since he's wearing a condom at that time. I love touching it, with the head peeking in and out the foreskin. It already looks gigantic eventhough its still soft. He invited me 2 the shower and gave me a puzzled look why I'm covering my m*nh**d with my hand. I said "I'm shy" and he smiled, but actually I'm having a h*rd-*n already, haa haa. At the shower, he soaped my body while I also do the same, holding his gigantic, semi-erect, uncut m*nh**d and said 2 him "ur so BIG"...and he whispered 2 me " u 2", I think I blushed with what he said and got shy bcoz I'm fully erect, lol. I also love soaping his unshaved armpit, mmmmm, and his round, hard b*tt. He even said "baby, baby" as we rinse in the shower, woah, I like that, I hope he carries me, haa haa. After the shower, he dried myself with the towel and I also does the same with him. Then, we wrap the towel around our waist as we go to the bed. I asked him what he can and cannot do, idk why I asked, just 2 be sure? I think...but tbh, I want 2 grab him and give him a deep kiss, but of course I need 2 behave 1st, haa haa. Afterwards, I invited him 2 the mirror bcoz my s*x usually begins with muscle worship, as u all know by now. While he was infront of the mirror, and I'm on his back, I slowly run my hands 2 his muscles and touch his m*nh**d and j*rk it *ff. He starting 2 get fully erect now. I kissed and licked the back of His neck, his shoulders, his back, his b*tt (ch**ks only, lol), and even the back of his legs and thighs. God I love his muscular, tattooed body!!! Then I asked him 2 turn-around as I saw his back in the reflection, omg I love those round b*tt. I asked him 2 flex his arms which I kissed and licked, doing the same 2 his chests, nipples, abdominals, legs and thighs almost slapped in the face by his gigantic m*nh**d. I asked him to turn sideways as I stroked his m*nh**d feeling its hardness and gigantic size. I kneel down and d**pthr**t him immediately and starting to move it in and out my mouth. Then, I l*ck the head and run my tongue to its body, all the time seeing the bl*wj*b in the mirror. Then, I also l*ck*d his b*lls then continue to bj him. He was sooo BIG and LARGE!!! Then, we moved 2 the bed where he romanced me with his tongue and goatee which really tickles me, adding horniness to my body, starting with my neck, then chest and nipples and even my tummy. I asked him 2 stand-up in the bed so I can see the bj in the mirror and d**pthr**t him again. I gag as I do it...and bl*wj*b him again and at the same time m*st*rb*t*ng him. Omg, I love s*ck*ng him!!! And then, the moment I've been waiting for, he put a condom to my m*nh**d, and begin 2 move it up and down his mouth!!! God I love looking at his gorgeous face while he s*ck*d me with a condom. I'm gasping for my breath. I even asked if we can have 69 to which he agreed and we both turn sideways. We bl*wj*b each other and I can't believe this is happening, he looks more handsome as he did it 2 me!!! When I noticed he is getting tired with the bj, I asked him 4 a hj 2 each other. I removed the condom 2 my m*nh**d and put a lube 2 his hand and 2 my hand and str*k* our m*nh**d firmly and quickly. He even l*ck my nipples as he m*st*rb*t* me. I was sooo excited with the whole experience!!! When I still did not c*m, I asked him to stand-up in the bed and me his muscles while he j*rk-*ff. He flex his biceps and triceps then make his chest and abs hard while he str*k* his self. This was sooo intense looking on his muscles and tattoos I c*m and it sp*rt HARD. He smiled when he see it and then we showered together again, dried-up and paid him as soon as he wear his clothes which really made him smile. He hugged me and pointed his lips for a smack, WOWOW, I finally kissed him, lol...then hugged him again as we said goodbye!!! After Mr. Runner-up left the room and I wear my clothes, Mr. Perfect Guy called and we had a video chat...he is still my #1...<END OF REPORT>

As we continue, I know you guys are enjoying this, lol...the next day, I planned 2 have a massage @ Senso, its long overdue now, and I've missed it on my last trip since I got lost with the directions, haa haa. Btw many thanks Vinapu 4 d exact location of d place. I walked to its street and now I know why I missed it. Its sign might be a bit covered by the leaves and bushes on its front garden...and guests can enter the gate, so I hurriedly come inside. Upon entering I was impressed by the design of Senso, its a Victorian era style mansion, complete with chandelier, luxurious lamps and mirrors and posh carpet...its like as if ur a prince (ooopppsss wrong massage place, lol). The manager (who is cute btw) asked me 2 seat and the masseurs are watching tv when I arrived who suddenly line-up when they saw me. Then I asked the manager for a standard massage/room, so he said its 1,000 baht plus he shows me in a calculator 1,200 minimum tip for the masseur, so its 2,200, I said okay. I asked if he can be my masseur since he is cute wearing eyeglasses and looks sexy in jeans. He's not that buffed or chiseled but got muscles on the right places. He smiled in reply and presented the boys and ask me 2 pick. There's only less than 10 boys and most are rough-looking but musclebound. I see there's a gym inside. After running my eyes on them, I shown the manager of the pic of the gorgeuos masseur who I like bcoz of his abs and muscles. He said he is no longer working in Senso. Oh. Then I shown the other pic of the cute masseur which I also like. He said he still works in there but 2day is in holiday, he come back 2 his hometown. Uh-oh. Then I said "I choose you, can u give me a massage?"...to which he replied "Okay, I also give massage"...then he asked me to follow me upstairs. Senso got a lot of floors, and I think we're already in the 5th floor going from a series of stairs and landing...whew, @ last...he shows me the room with bed, hanging mirror beside it and hanger with stand where you can hang your clothes and a small cabinet beside the bed for the massage oil and your other things. Then, he shown the shower room with sink and toilet, I can say the room is simple but clean. Then he asked me 2 shower and then leave. So I stripped off my clothes and shower, soaping myself in the process. There's only shower curtain btw, no glass door. Then the cute masseur came back and I thought he will join me in the shower, but just handed me a mouthwash, and wait outside. Ah. So I just finished my shower, dried myself with the towel and gargle with mouthwash. Afterwards, I wrap the towel on my waist and step-out the shower. The cute masseur was still waiting for me in the door. Then he asked me to go to the bed. He's wearing undies now, so sexy with a tattoo on his chest. After that, he asked me 2 lie down facing the bed, and I buried my face in the pillow. Then, he massaged me and I can say its a very good massage, he really knows how 2 do it and got a hard pressure. I got a h*rd-*n when his hand is already in my errogenous zone, lol...intentionally bumping his fingers on my m*nh**d and balls (and *sshole, ha ha), and applying more pressure on my *sscheeks, wow. Then he asked me 2 turn around, lay with my back on the bed. I said "sorry" bcoz I got a full *r*ct**n, he smiled and replied "its okay". He removed his undies and sat on me with my m*nh**d in his hand. I was surprised that there's also a massage for my private parts, haa haa, I mean he did not immediately m*st*rb*t* me. And then, the hj begins as he stroked me very, very fast. But I admit it really took me a lllooonnnggg time b4 I c*m when I'm not that horny. I think his hand is already tired, he he. I asked him 2 play both of my nipples, it may help me on the release, lol. His m*nh**d is still soft and I asked if I can j*rk it *ff, which he agreed. Omg, after a couple of up and down with my hand, it got *r*ct*d and its huge and thick. I said "its BIG", he smiled and he said "will close" showing me the clock. I responded "Senso will close now?"...to which he replied "no our massage, its 1 hr only"...aaahhh. A few more seconds I c*m, let him wash his hands 1st and then I showered, with him not joining me again. After showering, I dried myself again with the towel and wear my clothes. He was waiting again 4 me in the door. He said "my friend already called" so I rush myself. Oh he was referring to the housekeeper who will clean the room after the massage. I paid him then, add 300 baht, for a total of 2,500 as we walk downstairs and got out of Senso...as I walk back 2 my hotel, I'm excited thinking about Mr. Runner-up of Dreamboy <TO BE CONTINUED>

While it's important to be respectful to host country culture, it doesn't apply to what is happening in the industry,where rules are simple and universal. Whoever helped you may be tipped if you so inclined and whoever did not lift a finger, no matter what rank and seniority is should be left with empty hands. I rarely have problems with mamasans for simple reason, while I treat them politely I liberally use word 'no' when they offer help I don't need or request tip they don't earned. Complain that tip is too small is met with 'that' enough' from me. I believe a lot of our problems with mamasans comes from us trying to be too polite and too respectful , much more than necessary. After all we are not buying all that stuff hawkers on Patpong market are trying to push on us. Uninvited mamas an trying to make small talk will get a lot of polite nonsense from me as response, enough to get a hint I'm not interested in. "What boy do you like ' , "I like girls, 'what country you are from ?' " Tuvalu, Burkina Faso, Suriname' or some other country far from first pages. So first advice , while acknowledging them try to mind our own , not their business. Second is to have enough of change so no need to wait for staff to bring it, BTS change counters are very handy for that. Third is not to pay any attention to supposed cultural norm that tipping in coins is offensive, if they don't like, and some don't, take coins back and leave them empty handed, been there , done that and it works next time. As for boys circulating with erect cocks , it's nothing wrong with them expecting tip, we would do the same in that situation, no ? Again wave away and polite 'thank you' should work but if one touches that cock , pats boy on the bum or whatever should part with some money. I usually tip only one chosen from the pack, better use of 100 baht than enlisting help of mamas to bring boy over as chances are after the show boy will smile our way broadly. Almost forgotten fourth advice it to place tip discretely in the palm or pocket of person , preferably when nobody is around 20 baht tip for bringing a drink is enough , even if it's senior mamasan, grandson of Field Marshall or whoever. As for OP question, I'd give 20 baht to waiter and pocket 230 as explained above why, tip another mamasan exactly way you did. While I don't like extortionate types I strongly believe in monetary rewards to people who helped us and made our experience better By the way I have a habit of settling my bills in bar right away, i.e. When drink is delivered I pay the tab and tip the waiter, this signalizes that I'm ok for a while and it's always read correctly.

To satisfy my inquisitive nature, I went to Dream Boy Paradiso around 9:00 to see whether the bar was still opened. Yes, Dream Boy Paradiso is still opened despite the main bar is now fully operational. I had a glimpse of four boys standing on the stage in Paradiso. The barker said “ same bar, same company “ Apparently Paradiso’s show starts 10:00 and Main bar’s show time starts at 10:30. I am not sure if they continue this parallel run of the two bars permanently or just temporarily trial.

Moonlight waited a year to have it's official Grand Opening...you may a future opportunity.

that's quick, the pics from June 7th don't look like it would be done in just a week, but then again why not. Too bad I can't go to the Grand Opening (assuming there is one) because of other commitments tomorrow...

Good photos! Helpful to see the progress since I was there 3 weeks ago.

I passed Dreamboy Paradiso on the way to Lucky Boys. I asked their mamasan when they will open the bigger Dreamboys next door. ”Friday” he said. So stay tuned!

After a few years absence, I saw him returned to the stage last night with a high tempo dance number with Ake. Boy, he can dance. Its refreshing to see a proper dancer’s performance after watching gogo boys trying to dance but not so great performances.

Jupiter reduced entrance fee from 500 baht to 400 baht.

Looks Serious!! Thanks for the Pics...

More photos

7th June Friday

We all are different, I'm on opposite side of fence when comes to guys, delicate boyish thinks are definitely not my cup of tea although from time to time I off one just to spice my diet of rough manly specimens which ARE my thing , tattoos or not. Tattoos is thing I tend to not even notice very often. Despite 18 trips I find shows enjoyable as long as male flesh is shown at least just a bit, can't care less about artistic side of those , I want to see men , not performance.

I used to love the show at the old location of Jupiter2018. Will I be disappointed to go again after all the changes?

What so suprised?..army also human LOL...and more lucky because they have permanent job while some gogoboys work at bar for full time...dont know what their future when reaching old age..