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Continuing where I stopped. Saturday morning was spent again in CentralWorld this time with the help of our nanny so some actual shopping was able to be done. After that, it's nap time which means again a massage for the daddies. I took my husband to Arena. We entered and there were about 30 men there. I again gave him the right to pick first, this time it was quite obvious that there is only one REALLY hot guy there so he chose him. That guy was beautiful and muscular and I envied my husband for having a massage with him. Manager explained us that specifically for that guy, the minimum tip is 1000. I found it weird but said ok and off they went. After they left I realized that although I have 30 men in front of me, none of them are ones I actually want to have fun with so I decided to wait and maybe someone else would come. The whole time I was there, there was not a single walk in. I waited inside 50 minutes for my partner, which was a bit of a weird experience. When he happily came out we agreed that he will return to our suite to be with our daughter and I am going to try my luck elsewhere and return later to the hotel. He did mention that the Arena guy was also an excellent masseur but he did not get his name. After escorting my husband back to our hotel, I ordered a motor taxi. I decided that it is my time to explore some unexplored territories. So I put VClub7's address on the Grab app and took a motor taxi there. Half an hour later and closer to lung cancer than I have ever been, I arrived. It is a long drive for a motorcycle since that place is far. I noticed that the guys entering the place are hot. These guys are headed not to the massage but to the sauna (Chakran) which is located at the same place. I take a mental note of that and enter the massage area. About 14 guys on display, most of them are at least cute, and probably even more than that. Choosing was easy since there was one tall, muscular model at the back. I would say that a lot of that place reminds me of Prince but it is maybe a little more professional and expensive. I went with my guy to our room. Room is nicer than prince with mirrors located at better position, bigger bed and a more transparent shower. Encounter with that guy was great with lots of oil, rubbing, muscles flexing, touching. Guy's name sounded like "Ex" and he is from Chang Mai and suggested we exchange Line Id's. Since I was very satisfied I gave him 2000THB which is more than the already high minimum tip there which is now 1500 THB. But he was worth it. Maybe next time I just call him to my room or something. All and all this was a very good experience. Not sure if I will return just because of the distance. Once I returned, we spend some time with our child. I told my husband we should check out the Chakran sauna and that even though it's far, it looks promising. I already knew that they have something called O-Party at 9PM. I remembered that term from R3 (reopened nowadays as sauna Ratchada) as a massive orgy. We left the hotel at 8PM since I knew we had a long ride ahead of us and this time a motor taxi was not involved. I used Grab to order a taxi which worked really well for me this entire trip. I asked the driver to use the freeway and that I will pay its toll (50THB). I was surprised but that worked very well and we arrived 25 minutes later. Place is almost as clean as Babylon which is a lot nicer than Sauna Mania and resembles R3. We are the only foreigners in the house and the house is full - these are absolutely fucking perfect conditions for an evening of fun. Crowd is very much my taste with mostly fit, young Asians. The guys I talked with were mostly Thai, Chinese or Japanese. We waited to see what happens at 9PM just to find out it’s more of a show rather than a massive orgy. Show consisted of twinks having fun with each other. It was nice but not as fun as R3 massive O-Party. After about half an hour the show ended and the real fun started. That place is a buffet of my favorite dish. We stayed there for about 3 hours having fun with the Asian dishes served that night. I enjoyed that place very much and hopefully will return for seconds in the future. Although this sauna is far, I think that it's probably the best sauna in BKK if seeking Asian fun. After easting some Japanese ass, I had a sudden rush for Ramen, so after leaving Chakran we had a very late dinner at a Japanese restaurant nearby. From there we carried on to drinks at Balcony and after that to Saturday night party at G Bangkok. I saw there again Cha, the guy I saw there a week before and yesterday had the privilege to have a great time with. He was with his local friends and seemed really embarrassed when he saw me so I decided to let him have his space. After some more dancing, we were both tired from this day and called it a day. Last part coming soon.

I understand that everybody enjoys getting a bargain but somehow I don't quite equate getting a massage with going to Walmart. Paying a guy 1k to 1.5k to toil over your body for 60-90 minutes and then pleasuring you with a happy ending doesn't seem outrageous. And I can appreciate that some punters prefer the apps to a gay--or non-gay--massage shop. But among the benefits I find of using a shop are the opportunity to see what's available in person and not bringing a stranger into my hotel or apartment. In any case, I can't see myself entering a shop and saying, "I'll give you exactly 840 baht for a handjob and not a satang more."

So, I went to Arena massage shop this afternoon.. now I know why this place is highly recommended.. I got there around 2:30 pm.. since I needed help with directions, I had to call their shop and mamasan was already expecting me when I got there. once I entered the room (should we call it lobby or what?), all the guys immediately stood up and formed a reverse U shape, all facing towards me.. being quite nervous, I just asked mamasan to let me use the restroom, not because I needed to use its primary purpose, but to take some time to compose myself.. after taking a few deep breaths and wiping off all the sweats on my forehead, I went back to the lobby.. the guys were standing there, all trying to make eye contacts with me, smiling at me.. there were approximately 20-25 guys in total, a few of whom were really big muscular guys.. the average age appeared to be much older than that of Ganymede, and a bit older than my hero and Prince, I guess. not knowing whom to choose, I just let my innate preferences do its job.. among more muscular guys, my finger was pointing at the smallest boy with a toned body and baby face.. I chose a 90 minutes oil course, 800 baht and minimum tip of 1000. the guy led me to the room upstairs... since everyone has been already aware of its appearance and level of cleanliness, I am not going to repeat it.. an attached small shower booth inside, just next to the table.. the table could be quite short for tall guys... Massage was pretty good to my surprise, started with sensual, with nice strokes at times, then became more erotic.. the whole session took exactly 90 minutes and I was happy at the end.. I gave the tip of 1000 baht plus 400 extra to the boy inside the room .. his name is Teep, he said he's from Issan. I would strongly recommend him..

Yes, I use condoms to masturbate and my husband uses condoms to fuck new sneakers.

I second it, not two but twenty two times I tried Arena I left with smile . Not much ambiance but boys there have muscles , smiles ,no attitude and deliver, even mamasan Art seems to be nice and used to give good massage, I know, I tried. I agree with DivineMadman, there's serious management problem at Prince with all that mishaps reported here recently. I wish them all the best but perhpas we should give a chance to other places specially that Prince is not competing on price

What is a papasan? I thought it was a sort of chair.

I went to Prince Wednesday about 5pm. There was a girl there with her boyfriend. She was getting lots of attention from the guys behind the glass. There were several boys that weren’t quite as interested. These were the gay boys. Made it easy to pick one. When I arrived it was quite busy . When I left no customers and a lot more guys back behind the glass.

did a quick survey of the new patpong twilight. Starting from Silom, going through Patpong 1 and saw chillout boys (empty), and Sweet Banana (a handful of boys on stage, no or almost no customers, kinda pushy door people). Didn't see Superboys. Went to the old Twilight to have a quick glance, no fully boarded up, including Hotmale which still looked open a few days ago when driving past. A quick sidetrip to Soi Wallstreet revealed a closed G Boy bar. Then on to Patpong 2. Had a drink at New Hotmale beer bar with one of the waiters who likes me. Was kinda hoping to find @paulsf there, but didn't. Couldn't look inside the bar as they collected admission fee of 350 outside. On to Dreamboy P., they even said "can look first", so that's what I did. Told one of mamasan's (in Thai) that I was there only for a quick look at all the new establishments and would come back another day for show etc. No issue with that, friendly chat. DBP looked rather small to me. Many shirtless guys outside the bar, none of them really my type lol. Next stop Lucky Boys. Suprised how large it is. Looks fancy, too. Mamasans did seem pushy trying to escort me to a seat. I just stopped before entering the actual bar area, had a look around, a boy massaged my neck from a seat above lol. On the way out spotted an unusual looking boy in the dressing room. Unusual because he had VERY dark skin and facial features were somewhat reminiscent of an Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi guy (not normally my cup of the, but he was cute with lively eyes) We made eye contact and I asked him where he was from. Laos. Kinda surprising given the looks. Told him I'd come back another day (which I am indeed planning to do). Number 42. On the way home passed Soi 4 and saw the new Banana Boys but didn't go in. All in all, as Michael said in the other thread, things are alive and kicking indeed.

Sorry for the frustration. Most (probably 80%?) of the guys at Prince probably identify as "straight." So women customers wouldn't surprise me. I used to be a big and vocal fan of Prince from shortly after it opened. (I think the shop that used be there was named GQ???). Over the past few years I think the management side of things there has declined. It's just a poorly run operation. I went there in-person once and booked someone for the next day, but when I got there the guy was with another customer. I think there are lots of examples of Prince not honoring "bookings." Also I think the "management doesn't really give a damn" attitude lets the masseurs be a little less diligent and maybe play more games with the getting the customer out the door as fast as possible so they can get back into the rotation for the next customer. Having said that there are some great guys at Prince. Up to you. But I've stopped going there. Tipping a manager under the circumstances you described is generous in the extreme. Perhaps that is the only way to get good service at Prince. Loving your reports, BTW

welcome to the Arena fan club, lol

Asn, tbh with u, Charlee is really in-demand in Moonlight, a lot of guests wants 2 off him, and the mamasans really push him 2 be offed by showing his bday suit pics on their smartphones 2 the guests. I know its not fair if the mamasan made u decide in a few minutes, but that's the reality, if a boy is in-demand, you need 2 decide fast or else the other guests will off him. But the mamasan in Lucky Boys was moooreee pushy, yikes! But u made the right thing saying you don't want 2 be pressured, since you're their guests, and its not a right thing 2 do that!

This afternoon, I went to Prince massage as per recommendations by some members here.. it was my third massage shop experience. the first one was my Hero and second Ganymede. for the record, I also had a few outcall massage sessions from other places too such as Dm Spa and Sanctuary spa.. I don't have much experience to compare, but I was impressed by the size of Prince massage .. the premise looked nice and clean.. it was about 3:30 pm when I got there, quite a few customers in the lobby, all being Asian.. I thought it is an exclusive man to man massage spa, but why i saw a couple female asian guests too??? A cute mamasan showed me their menu.. when I asked about the boy whose pictures were sent to me through their Line just a few minutes prior to my arrival, mamasan said he just went into the room with a customer for an hour session. he said I could wait, I would choose 90 minutes oil (1800 baht for a room with a private bathroom attached), and minimum tip for the mentioned course would be 1500 baht. so I decided to wait for the boy for the above course.. I went to use their restroom and when I came back to the lobby, a waiter served me a glass of thai ice tea (?). I was sitting in their lobby, and after a few minutes, a different mamasan who just arrived, came to me and asked me if I was waiting for someone. when I mentioned my agreed plan to him, he said "for 6 o'clock?". I replied, "no, once the boy comes out, now". he nodded his head, and left me alone.. A few minutes later, the first mamasan came back to me, and said there were some other customers waiting for the boy ahead of me. there you go again! maybe I didn't understand him accurately, but it was something like "no good for the boy. many customers waiting now". I showed him the messages just exchanged between their line account and mine while I was on my way on a grab, with the expectation for a better understanding of what just happened after that second mamasan arrived. he said something, but I gave up trying to get a reasonable explanation. so I tried to look for a plan B. there were a few other good looking muscular boys stand by behind the glass, but most of them were not interesting to me.. so i inquired mamasan about possibility of having the boy for an outcall session .. he said it would be 1000 baht to the shop and 2500 baht as a minimum tip to the boy. I agreed, he gave me his line account and he said he would ask the boy and get back to me.. I gave him a small tip and left the place. Let's wait and see if it would really happen. but I have been prepared enough, so there will be no frustration or surprise anymore.. now I think I understand what it meant by "this is Thailand".

Carrying on where I stopped. I returned to our room as happy and satisfied as I returned the day before. My husband was curious regarding my experiences and he mentioned that in our second weekend in BKK he would like to try it out too. As I told him before, I will happily show him all the goods BKK has to offer. That evening grandma and grandpa offered to babysit so we have the night out with no foreign babysitter in our room. I pre-booked for my husband, his siblings and I another fancy dinner @ L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon which is located very near to the Kings Power Mahanakhon’s tower. This time, in my opinion, the money was worth it’s value (about 16K THB 4 ppl). A beautiful restaurant with fine French food made to its best. After that we all went to gay Sundays night @ Maggie Choo’s (300 THB + 1 drink). In my experience BKK’s finest gay crowd can be found at this venue. A perfect mixture of local high class Thais, Expats and some tourists. Generally speaking I don’t like drag shows, but at Maggie Choo’s I do. The shows are professional, funny and entertaining. His siblings call it a night after half an hour saying it’s too crowded for them (yep, that is the reason I like it), leaving us dancing flirting and drinking until 1 AM when we return to our room. Next morning we get ready for our Krabi flight. I will now dedicate one paragraph to describe the next four and a half days of our trip. No gay fun staff went on there except sex between my husband and I. We stayed in Krabi at the Dusit Thani (170 USD per night). Resort is very nice and relaxing. I had an almost regular daily routine which combined of gym, beach, pool, genuine massage, drinks, hotel restaurants and sleep. At our last night, my husband had the luck of breaking his laptop which means he cannot work anymore and can only have fun in BKK. I didn’t feel sorry for him when that happened. When it was Friday again, we said good bye to all the others and flew back to BKK while his siblings continued on to Koh Phi Phi and his parents to Singapore. I Wanted a pre noon flight to BKK so that when we arrive to BKK, our daughter goes straight to her nap and her dads to go and have a massage. Now that it was just the 3 of us, I knew that I wanted intense babysitting help. I also knew I wanted 2 bedroom suite with locks for our room. I made cancel-able reservations at about 12 different hotels and started investigating the suite structure and the hotel’s ability to provide a proper live-in nanny. Most of the good hotels in BKK mentioned they used the same agency for nannies so I contacted directly that agency (Thaikidshome.com) and booked us a live-in nanny to help us during our weekend of fun in BKK. Also consulted the agency regarding accommodation and from my already booked options they were highly supportive of The Ascott 2 Bedroom Suite (170 USD a night). So we arrived at The Ascott at Friday, checked in, met our lovely nanny for this weekend, put our daughter to sleep and arrived at 3PM to The prince for my husband’s first massage in BKK. I took him to the Prince since as a first experience I believe that that place is less overwhelming than others and cleaner which will be important for him. We sat down, I explained him the rules of the game and let him choose. As he always does, he asked me who would I have chosen. I started looking through the glass. I see this sculpted young guy that looked familiar. I wasn't sure where from but I was sure I wanna enter a room with that guy. All I just hoped is that my husband does not fancy him. I told my husband I am not going to choose for him so he just needs to look at the guys and choose someone he fancies. Luckily, he did not choose my guy, he chose someone else. Off they went. Now it's my turn to choose. I ask the unhelpful mamasan about that guy and he said to me that he is gay can be top or bottom and is a good masseur. I continue to look at him since he seemed familiar. It took several more seconds for me to realize that this guy is the guy I put my eye on at the club a week ago. I tried locating that guy on the apps, unsuccessful and here he is now standing in front of me, shirtless as he was in the club showing off his perfect ripped body. Several minutes later we are in the room. As I mentioned before, fucking is usually not my thing in those massages. But, knowing that this guy is versatile and having actively looking for him in the apps made me very very excited during this massage. I made it clear that the part of me facing down and him rubbing me is of little interest to me although he was good at it. Then it was just a hot sex encounter with lots of oil, touching, kissing and me fucking him and his tight hole and muscular ass. I was so horny and excited during that encounter that I was actually able to cum with a condom on my dick. For me that is a rare occasion. If my memory serves me right - this was my best encounter in Prince. Asked the guy for his name, I think he said something that sounds like "Cha". I said goodbye to another 1500 THB, and left happily to the lobby. I spared my excitement from my husband and just asked about his experience. His first experience was good yet he mentioned that as a massage it was less professional. I then reminded him that we are not going to Bangkok for professional massages haha. From Prince back to our room, and we took our daughter for some more kids fun stuff at CentralWorld. After putting her to sleep we went for drinks at Balcony and some more dancing at DJ Station. Decided to call it a night at about 2AM.

What did people think about the scene in "Special" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_(TV_series)), episode 3, where the star hires an escort to take his virginity? I thought it was sweet. I watched with my daughter and wasn't embarrassed. Good new series on Netflix. I liked it.

This is my 5th trip to Thailand and my first trip with my husband and child. All my previous trips were solo. I will try to focus on the more interesting gay parts of my trip, a fact that will probably make this trip report shorter than previous ones, considering the specific nature of this trip. A brief intro, 35 yo Israeli married + 1. Last trip was 16 months ago; I came for White Party 2018. At that time I knew it would take me some time to come again alone to Thailand and I set my mind on returning for Songkran 2019. As time passed by, I started realizing that I will not be able to pull those dates off so I set my mind on the week after which was also Jewish Passover. But, my partner was less enthusiastic on letting me travel solo during the holiday since he had tons of work and was not able to take full care of our daughter this time. I understood him and the situation but I still missed my BKK. So instead I decided to try and make it a family trip. I realized that traveling with our daughter while my husband had tons of work that he will have to do during our vacation is not my best option. So I convinced his parents and siblings to join us. It was quite easy, who doesn't want to have his vacation in Thailand? So this was a big family trip that I planned and arranged to all of us. I also knew that the maximum time that we should all spend together is a week. More than that will be too much family time for all the people involved J So for this big trip, I scheduled a weekend in BKK for all of us, then mid-week we spent at a resort in Krabi and then we split so my husband, daughter and I had another weekend in BKK without the rest. It took me lots of planning, booking, coordinating for the whole group. But it was worth it. We flew the weekend after Songkran. This year, a smaller Israeli airline, Arkia opened the 2nd direct TLV-BKK route. It was a shitty flight with a 25yo plane. But my daughter and I slept most of it so I didn't care much. Having a 2yo child in BKK has its advantages. We didn't need to queue almost anywhere. Once Thai airport staff saw we were with a stroller we were guided to go to fast track which was nice. Since this trip I was not alone, I tried to leave little room for mistakes so I asked Lebua to send us a van with a proper seat for my daughter. 2500 THB. Arrived at the Tower Club @ Lebua state at 6 PM Friday evening. Hotel is nice but I think for its cost, 235 USD a night, there are many better options than that one. But, my sister in-law really wanted to stay in the hotel of the film "The Hangover 2" so I let her have it her way. It's a very nice hotel with large rooms and high balconies observing BKK and free lounge. Excellent service and professional staff. We had dinner at Siam Discovery's Outback. Again, not my first choice, but I usually comprise about things I don't care that much. After that we put our daughter to sleep and the pre-booked hotel nanny arrived (300THB per hour). Now It's dads time for our night out in BKK. It's my husband's first night in BKK and I was keen on showing him some of BKK’s jewels. Arrived at Jupiter just in time for the show. We both enjoyed the eye candy show and it was a full house. Offing was not an option considering the fact that our daughter was with us in our suite. Some of the stars there are really impressive and for sure would be an good offing option for us, although it seems to me they are better at being looked at than actually having fun with, but I maybe wrong here. From there off to Moonlight. It was my first time there, and after reading some threads about it, I has higher expectations. House was almost empty. Some of the guys were hot but it was by far less entertaining then Jupiter. It could have been that it was the 2nd show of that night and maybe it's always like that in later hours. But even with taking into consideration the late hour of the second show, something about their show was just not sexy enough. Maybe coming in time for first show is a better option, but we did not have time to check that out. After that, we went to DJ station. A solid stable BKK institution. House was full and we enjoyed the crowd. I never liked too much the music there… too much pop for my ear. My husband liked it more than me. Anyways, we both enjoyed our time there since the combo of guys, music and alcohol can’t be beaten J We were not actually looking for sex since we were both very tired and also things were a little logistically complicated with having a stranger as a nanny in our room so we preferred calling it a night. The morning after my husband had to work, so I took all the rest to Siam Paragon – they did shopping and I took my daughter to Sea World. Sea World is just one of many nice things that I would have never think on even easting my time in BKK if I was without my daughter. Having said that, it is the most impressive aquarium I have seen compared to those in the States and Europe. I took her back just in time for her nap, I had a vision in my mind that while she is napping and my husband is working in our room, it is my time to shine. Arrived at the Prince at about 3PM. BKK was very rough on traffic our entire stay so whenever I went alone I took a motor taxi. I entered and chose the most muscular ripped guy I saw and we went together to the room. After showering I waited about 3 minutes. Then, the mamasan guy knocked on the room and told me that I had to choose another guy since he couldn’t work now. I found it weird, but decided that I don’t care that much and went outside to choose another guy. On my way out back to choosing, I saw the guy that I choose coming back to my room as if everything is as usual, then the manager stopped him and they argued loudly in Thai. This thing seemed very unprofessional but again – I didn’t care that much. The manager said he is sorry and that the guy I chose is bad service etc… I told him OK and went to choose me another guy. The mamasan guy in Prince is generally unhelpful by saying all the guys are great there and excellent service so I again choose by intuition. I choose another muscle guy. Massage is as I usually get in prince, very sexual, lots of oil involved, muscles flexing and genitals being rubbed and touched until we both climax. Tipped the guy 1500 THB, and left very happily to my room and even had a one hour nap before our daughter wakes up and we continue our evening together with daddy being much happier after his massage haha.

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When someone sneaks into my house I initially decide whether to call the cops. Otherwise, I def would use a condom for fucking if there is no current lab evidence (assuming the sneaker may be poz and taking antiretroviral therapy) verifying the viral load is below the measurable limit of quantification ("undetectable"). [100% non-transmissable among those with "undetectable" virus due to ARV uptake] does not equal ["undetectable" virus among 100% of those on ARV]. The reason treatment is permanent is because "undetectable" is not the same as non-existent. "Undetectable" status is impressively consistent these days but only as good as the latest blood test. Beware the blindspots when interpreting research findings. Condom use relaxation may be more appropriate where the sexual partners are more than casual and have a viable system for sorting out prophylaxis based on current transparently shared lab data.

On my personal experience @ Arena, I did not enter immediately to the door bcoz when I saw the muscular masseurs flexing in the gym inside, I got really nervous, so I walked away first from the entrance, then breath in and breath out, til I relaxed. Afterwards, I entered, talked 2 the manager and I was able to select among the hot masseurs there! The experience was very good but the best massage still comes from Prince, that's only 4 me!!! Btw we only use the word papasan informally 2 refer to the cute manager of Prince, just 2 be clear.

great report with sufficient details !

No one can say "it's too much." Arena has been around for along time with many many repeat customers. People who think it's too much than they want to pay should not go there. I really like that Arena is so up-front about what the minimum includes: massage, naked showering together and HJ.

Haha, i was also nervous the first time i go there, not used to 30+ hunks giving me flirty looks haha. Instead of going to the restroom, i focus on the card and manager instead lol

Agreed, which is why its always better value to go more than just hj in full service gay shop. Minimum tip is to discourage customer who just come for massage and nothing else. A high tip just for hj also to discourage customer to just go for hj, since like u said, a normal massage place can give hj for just 500, though u proba ly cant choose your masseur, and mostlikely the masseur there isnt a looker with nice body.

Yes! We were very suprised by the massive number of high class, low cost restaurants in that area. We went to the Charkrans's nearest Japanease restaurant: Ori Izakaya & Sushi Bar, which was great. And we saw along the way many other options that looked great. For an unfamiliar area, that was a nice suprise.

Yup, which is 400 more than minimum. Im not sure what service was provided though. But arena price range is lower indeed, since the facilities isnt as good as prince/vck/myhero. http://arenaspa-bangkok.com/what-is-the-minimum-tips-最低消費是什麼 The link above spelt out the minimum tips and what it entitles. Given the post date is 2011, they havent raise their price at all since then.

The minimum tip is only for hj i think, which is why its usually lower than full service shop like prince etc. So if service was more than just hj, as asnstudent did, u should give more than minimum

In my limited experience, "papa-san" is not used in massage places and as a general rule they don't particularly like/appreciate being called "mamasan" (it's a tad bit demeaning). "Manager" will do fine. At Prince - for a while anyway - they even studiously referred to the masseurs as "mister" and not "boy," although obviously they never got insulted or bothered if a customer said "boy."

Great report! It's easy to get to Chakra/VClub by BTS to Ari and then a short walk or mocy ride. Also lots of fun good places to eat in the neighborhood.

A masculine version of mamasan, don't take the word seriously, lol

Yes go visit Arena, its filled with muscular, gym-fit masseurs...its the 1st massage place I've been, very nervous at that time but totally enjoyed the whole session, es included, lol. And Asn, if you also like gigantic, bodybuilder-type guys, you should check-out Tawan, the 1st go go bar I ever visited and got the wildest and most explicit show I've ever seen w/c leaves me breathless and state-in-shock, haa haa.

The only question is if the cute papasan knows how 2 massage, ha ha...but I'll just settle if he'll rub his whole body 2 me, private part included, as in body2body, haa haa.

Thank you Sihifu's spoon and vinapu, I am gonna go check out Arena today then. is this the one on the third floor of a plaza? Edition: Sorry for an unnecessary question.. I just did my homework and yes it is on the third floor of Silom plaza which is pretty close to Raya Surawong where I am staying at.

Wow!!! Mr. Perfect Guy in DB Paradiso, the reason I always come back 2 BKK, Thai!!! Yup, yup off him w/o seeing the show, its allowed!!! Looking 4ward 2 ur report, many thanks Asn!!!

He looked quite cute. I wish i could have just simply chosen him as my masseur. Now you know why i was generous despite a frustrating outcome. The second mamasan was more of a bear type. Once he arrived, my plan got messed up.

Asn, Prince is 4 everyone, girls included, he he...sorry if u really need 2 wait 4 a long time there, it also happened 2 me but its worth the wait!!! The massage place is really busy that's why there is a lot of queing time with the customers. Actually, I agree with u, the mamasan (or papasan?) there is cute, the soft-spoken man, right?haa haa. Ur lucky u got thai ice tea, mine is a glass of water filled with ice, ha ha. And I also agree with u, I also like the selection of masseurs there. Anyway, I hope u can have a massage with the boy but there are other boys 2 choose from...

But anything is possible, right? To start with, he agreed 2 be a guest in Moonlight's anniversary, and that's surprising for a navy guy!!!

We ended up staying in the D'varee Pula express at Songkran... Lets just say we won't be back! The 150B beers in the (nice but exorbitant) beer yard were ridiculously overpriced.... But the staff demanding that we gave back the additional 2 towels that we "stole" from them at checkout takes the biscuit. One b*tch stood there and absolutely swore that she gave us 2 extra towels at 17.00 the previous night It was only when I pointed out the fact their hotel was well known for doing this to guests on TripAdvisor that the manager called off the Rottweiler's who were attempting to strip search us! I would rather stay at the Tarntawan in the future!

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If Oz says that the boys are cute, they are cute!

So, after I had my daily share of XY flesh, my friend came to pick me up at my hotel around 11:30 pm tonight. then we took a cab to a jazz bar at the mandarin oriental hotel. but because of my shorts and sandals, we could not get in.. I personally don't like this kind of place, especially when I am on my vacation... but since my friend wanted to show me something "nice", I let him do it... from there we walked to that roof top bar (the tallest building in BKK), as I expected, a dress code is required. BTW, how do they manage looking good without any sweats in those dress pants, and shoes and … under this hot and humid weather?????? they don't seem to have any sweat glands on their skin..all looking great. from there, my friend didn't want to give up, but I insisted that we just go back to more relaxed places such as the ones in Silom. we took a cab back to Vesper where we had one drink each.. then we walked to Soi 4 and chose to sit at Balcony bar, which was my very first time.. I really enjoyed hanging out there.. more relaxed, nice crowd.. while I am on this kind of vacation, I just wanted to devote every single minute to this kind of environment and enjoy every single bit of it.. we had a few more drinks there and sat there until the waiters were ready to kick our butt out.

Seems like they try to give u a ride again asnstudent. Good for you for not budging and take a different boy. If i have time, id go somewhere else and change my appointment to a diff day, and if it happened again, cross that place off my list. I think what happened is the two mamasan didnt coordinate, or they are competing with each other to get customers, and it could be solved easily if customer booking is being handle by one person and all mamasan need to report to the person when getting a booking. And of course that one person who manages the booking also need to have a way to inform all mamasan which boy is taken already by booking. Its a pity that such a simple system, if followed, would avoid all that frustration. I can only imagine how it was during songkran time. If u want muscular guys for massage (face maybe not as good as prince masseur though) u probably will have better luck in arena. I cant say anything about prince but the two times i tried arena, i left with smiles on my face

Well, good to know that I gained some benefit from serving eight years in the Israeli army

Wow, I am speechless after reading about your nanny & 2 bed room hotel search. You have a military grade logistics, administrative skills.

For sure, everyone there seems to be working so hard that some of them may have crossed the lines.. some become aggressive.. i had been to Soi Twilight only once, it was last year, my very first and last time.. so i had not much to compare, but in my humble opinion, most gay clubs here seem to be working really well.. a lot of female customers, a lot of Asian tourists from neighboring countries.. while you're taking a few more minutes before you make your final decision, not because you had any reservation about the boy, but because you wanted to spend a few more minutes inside the bar, the boy could be gone with another group of customers.. hard to believe it's a low season.. I have only 3 days left here, but i still yet to try a few massage places and Drim's Mr Perfect guy from DB Paradiso.. i am thinking of going back to DB Paradiso either tonight or tomorrow night and ask to off him without entering the club so that i will not be on their live cast.

So after my massage and nap, I was happy and patient on carrying on that evening. Our daughter woke up and we took her by foot to see a little more of the city. We hopped on a ferry so she can see the river and enjoy the ride. When we went out after one station, we entered ICONSIAM which is a new beautiful and luxurious new mall on the wrong side of the river. After exploring that mall we entered a taxi back to Lebua. My first explicit homophobic encounter in BKK was at that taxi when the driver realized that we were a family end just kept saying stuff like “2 dads no good” etc. My husband got upset, but I told him that we are not going to change or educate no one in one taxi drive so we just let him take us back to our hotel and finished that unfortunate encounter. I would have felt quite differently if my daughter understood English but since she didn’t, I didn’t care much about a BKK taxi deriver’s opinion regarding my beloved family. This evening was the evening we all decided to have a fancy Passover dinner. Passover Seder Eve was actually on the evening of our arrival but we decided to take it easy yesterday and have a fancy dinner celebrating the holiday on this evening, a day later. Babysitter arrived at our room since taking a 2 yo child to a fancy restaurant is a sure way to not enjoy our dinner. We spent with her about half an hour to see that she communicated well with our child and then left the room. I ordered us a table at the hotel’s most famous restaurant Sirocco. It is at the top of the hotel. It is a fancy and impressive restaurant. I think that the picture of that roof top restaurant is one of BKK’s recognizable pictures. We had a very nice dinner there. Food was good, service as well and the view and atmosphere were almost magical with a live band playing jazz music. Still, same as everything in that hotel – if you take the money spent there, I think there are better restaurants and experiences in BKK than this one. But I have no reason to complain since that meal's 22K BHT bill (for 6 ppl) was paid fully by my father in-law. From there we went all to King Power Mahanakhon’s new rooftop glass floor. A scary and funny experience walking on transparent floor at 75 floor high. After that they all went back to the hotel to sleep and we took a taxi to SOI 4. Entered Banana Boys for their midnight show. Show was entertaining and more explicit than shows we saw yesterday. Still, not sexy in my opinion. Maybe it is I that has changed and not the shows but if I compare these shows to the shows I’ve seen in Hustlaball Köln half a year ago – those were sexy shows which actually made me horny. The shows that I’ve seen in BKK this trip did not make me horny but were more of light entertainment. Also, none of the guys in that bar were our type. Still, we enjoyed this light entertainment and drink. From there, as I try to do every Saturday evening spent in BKK, we went to G Bangkok (formally known as G.O.D). This is my favorite club in BKK: real loud house music, smoking allowed in side, sexy shirtless Asian man in a packed tiny space. You can’t go wrong there. Saturday eve was no different. There was one guy that specifically caught my eye and will later on this trip will catch more than that. If we were on a hunt I’m sure we would catch one or more new Asian friends to come with us back in the room but we weren’t so we just enjoyed the club, flirting, drinking and at about 3AM we went back to our room, paid the sitter and went to sleep. I kept my daughter all this trip still in Israel time so she woke up at 10AM which was great considering our late return the day before. My partner still had to work so I took her that late morning to my favorite BKK mall: CentralWorld. There we enjoyed some kids stuff and retuned just in time for her nap and for me pulling off yesterdays drill all over again. Arrived at Arena by motor taxi at about 4PM. About 25 men there all staring at me trying to catch my attention but none of them did. I was ready to leave back to Prince but then a familiar face and a very sexy body joined the group. Panu. I already knew I would have fun with that guy since we already had some fun 3 years ago. I chose him and had my ride. Again, a very sexual massage emphasized on my thighs and genitals which is exactly the way I like it. We both are top, a fact which never bothered me on massages cause I usually don’t want any fucking involved. Still, I felt like I have to violate in some way his perfect ripped body. I asked him to lay on his belly and oiled his entire body while fucking his ripped thighs as he was flexing them for me. That was a hot way to cum and a well deserved 1500BHT was given. Same as yesterday, I returned happy and energized to our room.

Mmmmm...

Absolutely right! If we found out that Babe does not have s*x with customer its a big turn-off, but right now, we're fantasizing he does, haa haa

Saturday night, after lagoa, I ended up going to get dinner and drinks with a friend. After that I decided I’d just stay at home and not go to The week, I had already had too much to drink and I was tired. So pseudo-boyfriend and I just stayed at home, drank some more and basically fucked all night so I guess I was not that tired after all. We did not sleep till about 6am. Sunday Did not wake up till around 1pm I think. Went to carrefour to get coffee. I am a raging bitch without any coffee. Pseudo-boyfriend (lets call him joe) did not wake up till around 3pm. The moment he left to go eat something more consistent with his diet, I sent a message to yago from garotos.com I went to his apartment in bela vista. We talked a little bit and then started kissing and we fucked as though our dear lives depended on it. Wow so far I have not had any disappointment. It was amazing. Big cock, handsome face a bit on the short side but who cares, he fucked me as though the white walkers were coming and this was our last day on earth. He came we lay there talking for sometime with the help of google translate. And he asked me if I wanted to cum I said yes so we started mess around and before I realised we were fucking again we both came, rested two and a half hours later I got an Uber went home and took a shower, rested for a bit and then called Wallace who is visiting from Rio to come over. He came over and we fucked. It was so fucking good. Another shower and then I left for lagoa. I did not get there early. There was a group of African American who had been there Friday and Saturday as well, they asked me where I was from and invited me to their table so I sat with them and talked about stuff. From the most mundane to very important stuff. I loved the karaoke. It was my first time singing to anyone and it sucked balls but it was fun. I did not go with any of the boys but I wanted one of the bartenders so bad and I think he noticed so slipped me his number and we talked I tried to get him to meet up later that night but he could not because he had to wake up early to go to his regular job on Monday morning. I went back home and slept like a baby. Monday My last day so I wanted to make use of every minute, every inch, every stroke lol well I did not wake up till 11:00am . I tried to make an appointment with Rick at Inhouse agência for 1200 and Sérgio and Bernardo for 2030. I was told Rick was not working that day. So I sent Rick a message on WhatsApp and asked him if he could come to my place instead since I was leaving the following morning. He agreed came over around 3pm and by the Gods this guy was perfect. Good face, great body and how the hell he carries that third leg around, only they know. The sex was unreal I am smitten. Or so I thought until later that night. He left around 1730. I took a shower and then went to lagoa for the last time again no boys for me and the bartender was not there. After finishing my drink I left to Inhouse to see Sergio and Bernardo. I got there and I was told Bernardo was not working today but I told Sergio I still want the four hand massage so he made a call and 2-3 minutes after the call, 5 guys came in one after the other to introduce themselves to me. I settled on on Kauan and oh boy!!! Let’s just say there was no massage. We went straight to kissing and fucking and there was a lot of it. I was at this point just smitten. I think the boys in Lagoa did not really like me because I had been there 3 days in a row and apart from my first day I did not really approach them or solicit them for their services. In conclusion 1. I want to take brazil home with me 2. Don’t fuck before going to the sauna

Exactly! I went with a group of 6 people and Fransisco. And it didn’t seem that dangerous but it is a prison! I think the old man's name is Franchisco or something like that, maybe about 80% sure but I’ve only been to his home once. And yes his parties are like a business, you can go there alone or with a group tell him how many boys you are interested in and watch them flock to his home. The day I went we stayed for hours! Fransisco can set both trips up for you. I think that’s your best bif your not a seasoned DR traveler. Also, someone asked if FransiscoF and Manny are similar... they aren’t! I hate to say it but Manny is much closer to a pimp, and Fransisco is much more of a local guide. I only say that because one of the guys told me Manny takes 1000 pesos from their earnings. The guy didn’t ask me for more money after saying that but only asked that I reach out to him directly if I wanted to spend time with him. So take that however you want because you will have to pay Manny for his services. Not saying it’s wrong or right, but it’s just how it is. For some reason, I knew when I mentioned the prison in my original post it wouldi bring the most attention lol.

I dislike the manager though. He seems a little bit pushy and tried to sell their more expensive course like scrub etc. Then when you insisted not to, he finally backed off but started to speak in Thai lol.

The worst mamasan I’ve encountered. But she doesn’t care as there is alawys a stream of new customers to accost.