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I arrived last Friday evening from Australia via Malaysia airlines, 7pm. I was dreading the airport and freeway congestion but all good. Through immigration, collected my luggage and into my pre booked car within 30 minutes. A record. Then the roads were empty. Into the Crowne plaza in Silom 35 mins later and into my room by 8:15. WTF ! So some time for a quick walk around to survey the new venues post the demise of Soi T. I’ve previously posted my love of Soi T and especially Maxis. But the Soi was more than that, it’s was self contained. Bars, gogo shows, massage and boys. Nothing better than my evening ritual of sitting a Maxis each evening watching the coming and going at bkk massage, fresh boys etc and downing a few Long Island ice teas. I digress. I headed to Patpong 2 to survey the set up. So ok there the new placed, dream boys Paridiso etc and screw and fresh. But there is no atmosphere. No bar to sit and watch. Well there are bars of course but nothing appealing. Anyway I sat at one of the bars next to screw boys and downed a few beers. Then back to my room about midnight for some sleep. Should mention that it’s fucking HOT. Never known such heat, even in the evening so that is slowing me down a bit during the day. So to Saturday night. I started the evening in the hotel club bar. Free drinks from 5 to 8. Bonus. Then off to Soi 4 which I’ve not explored before, only a visit to Jupiter last year. I was in search of a bar to just sit for a while as I like to do. It was early ~ 8:30 and the Soi was a bit quiet. First stop was banana bar. I was the only customer, with 4 waiters busy on their phones when I sat down. Drink ordered, but no atmosphere here. Waiters too engrossed in their phones to even get passing customers attention. Only positive was watching the arriving boys for the upstairs venue, I recall fresh boys venue now ? Anyway I then moved on to Telephone bar. It’s was starting to get a little busier and I got good seat to survey the Soi. Waiters were attentive and friendly. Stayed about a hour and will go back tonight. Next into Taiwan. 9:30 ish and only a few customers. Drinks 500 bt. Outrageous. A few chunky boys on stage but nothing outstanding to speak of. Other guys sitting round the place on their phones. Didn’t stay for the show, just a bit sad for a Saturday night. But on exiting the place a guy I’ve seen before from one of the massage places adjacent to Taiwan grabbed me. The is very handsome and soon lifted his T-shirt to show me his muscular stomach. He then grabbed my hand and pushed it down his jeans. Nice. If only I was younger, fitter and not so drunk it would hav3 been magic, but I gave him a few hundred bt and went back to my hotel alone. But he made this old dude happy for a minute or two. Off to check out Fresh boys in Soi 4 tonight.

Yes there are around 3 rows of benches facing the stage directly and another 3 on the right hand side of the bar. The front row has a couch/table set up. But I agree the live feed feels very invasive. I was not aware of this when I visited! Perhaps you can avoid being captured if you sit at the bar, near the entrance ...but then you won’t have a good view or can’t go to the toilets without walking right past the camera!

Reading back through this topic, other than a report that a Dreamboys mamasan said the German owner of Dreamboys had bought HotMale, I can find no other report of this purchase/joint venture. The owner of HotMale owns and revitalized Moonlight, he had three spots on Twilight and the gogo upstairs. I’d like someone in Bangkok to provide a more than mamasan insight. Speculation/hope/despair is running amok.

For easy browsing purpose, I will repost my Serbian experience in this new thread with some new notes on Novi Sad. I was in Belgrade for four days and in Novi Sad for two. Here are my observations: 1. About the big cock size. Guys in Serbia are well hung, above the European average, but not everyone's over 20 cm. 2. I was very lucky, as my first meeting turned out to be with a 23 yo, 198 cm tall, solid 23 cm hung guy. I majored in metrology so I know what I'm talking about. By gay standard it would be easily over 10 inches. LOL. Beside being a powerful and insatiable top which fucks without any difficulty 3 to 4 times a day, he's also a passionate kisser, an eager sucker, and a slutty bottom. He stayed with me most evenings of my stay and went to Novi Sad with me. He fucked me about a dozen times and I fucked him three times. He's not an escort but a Master student. He actually tried to invite me in most occasions. You must think I'm bragging but it was true. I'm gonna be seeing him a lot more. 3. When my perfect guy went to class during the day, I met with a couple guys. Most of them under 25 yo. It's a very young community there. The cock size ranges between 15 to 20 cm. 4. One masseur charged me 30 euros for 90' professional massage, and another charged the same for 60 minutes massage plus sex. 5. The only guy I kinda paid was a dreamy 22 yo military school pre-graduate. He has one of the most perfect body I had my hands on, ruthlessly trained by four years of military training. His cock is only about 17 cm but can stay rock hard after two consecutive cum. He can fuck energetically in any twisted position of my choice and as long as I wish. He never promoted himself as an escort, but just a young guys who's always short of a couple of euros, for gas, for drinks or for food. I helped him once 20 euros plus a McDo (his choice) dinner, and once 20 euros plus a bluetooth transmitter for his car (about 15 euros). In return, he gave me two very intensive orgasms, memorable visual imprints in my mind, and two city tours in his car. All that said, I don't think I really 'paid' him. 6. Guys talk a lot on apps but meet with caution in real. A lot don't want to come to hotels. You can sense the oppression. They send out nude pics easily but face pics with hesitation. 7. One guy sauna in Belgrade, Redline, which is famous for being empty pretty much all time, also offers massage for 30 euros. 8. In the region, both Croatia and Serbia, they say hottest guys are from Montenegro. 9. Novi Sad is the second largest city in Serbia, but only about one hour drive from Belgrade. Compares to it's burgeoning and alternative big brother, Novi Sad appears quiet and laid-back, including guys there. 10. As I was there with my Belgrade boy, I didn't meet lots of guys. We had a first threesome with a young doctor, a 26 yo blond with a 18 cm well-shaped cock. Unfortunately after he saw my Belgrade boy's 23 cm dang, his own went placid. It was kinda comic how it happened. He tried to be participative though. 11. We also hosted twice a 19 yo cock-hunger boy, who was ready to suck and get fucked any time of the day. He was so needy for cocks that it made him ridiculous and cute at the same time. He wears way too much make-up to our taste though. He came multiple times while getting fucked and sucking us both times. 12. The last night, while my Belgrade boy met a sexually confused 'straight' dude in whom I'm not inserted at all, I was picked up by car by 30 yo 2 meters tall sporty giant, who used to be a professional sportsman and currently working as coach. He was extremely careful and discreet, didn't want to send face pics, but only shown on appear.in (a online video chat app/website). He fucks like a champ, uses his 21 cm but very thick cock well, and came twice in a row. Sorry I can't be more helpful as most of the time I was with my Belgrade Valentin most of the time.

Lunch and afternoon.with bf. We are both with saudades to have to leave each other for sometime ... 117 for my last night. It was not raining when I arrived but now it is raining a lot. Many boys arrived early including some faces I never saw. One of the newbies is very good looking. Nice face, nice defined body ... maybe due to Jiu Jiutsu he is supposed to be practising according to a tattoo on his chest. A couple of other boys whom I never saw are quite good looking and obviously very well endowed judging from the bulge of their towel. A. my regular is here also and I soon agree in a program with him. He is a perfect sucker and a power bottom. And he ends the session with great and relaxing massage. His white bubble butt is very teasing. I might have gone with a new boy but feared it might be a bad experience giving a bad end to such a great trip. I try to convince A to prepare his boyfriend to do together a life sex show for me during my next trip. But bf seems to be shy ... time and $ will help convincing them. My target for next trip ... 8 pm in 117. All tables are occupied. There are many customers but not many doing "coisas" (things) and there is not even a line to get a suite ... not usual for a tuesday in 117. It is true that it is bank holiday (Saint George) just after Easter. This plus the rain might explain the situation.

We need 2 cover our face when walking there, haa haa... Jasper even said he recognized one of the customer bcoz of the live feed, uh oh

Sitting at the Amex lounge at MEX waiting for my return flight. Stayed in Condesa. Had great meals at Contramar and Patagonia. I agree that the people are warm and helpful.

Woah so they have added long chairs! Good to cater more customers! But the live feed camera/phone makes me uncomfortable...

Back to Rio for the last couple of days. Bf joined me and we spent time in bed during the whole afternoon. Pointe 202 later was rather weak. Only guy from Manaus appealed to me but I was not in the mood nor needing to do anything. I showed to Bf pictures I took in Mato Grosso and he reacted in particular to one which symbolizes (in a bad way) gays : The reason is that the name of the animal is veado and viado is slang for gay ... A member of this forum confirmed me also that "24" also symbolizes gay since 24 is the number of veado in Jogo do Bicho, an illegal gambling game in Brazil. I answered him that it was then the Jogo do Bicha (bicha is also slang gor gay in Brazil). Today is my last day and last nighy in Rio this trip ...

The popularity of gay go-go bars has been declining for twenty years. An owner of one of the biggest and most popular confided me in about 2007, just before he sold-up, that he saw no future in the game. Admittedly, that was before the major Asian influx and a few have certainly been kept alive by straight Chinese tourists who go to look but only spend money on drinks. As the guide said, the apps have removed the need for money-boys to prance around (or nowadays, stand around) in underwear. Some of them do well-enough from their apartments and some don't....but the same was true of go-go dancers. Host bars in Jomtien are coping as are massage joints....but few traditional go go bars have looked busy for years. My impression of Nice in Sunee a couple of months ago - a popular bar that has a devoted if elderly clientele- was that the guys were making their money from services offered on-site rather than offing.

Kicked off Monday night with a few drinks at The Balcony bar on Soi 4. Not to bad and friendly and attentive guys out front. Then on to Fresh Boys above the Banana Bar at about 9:30. I’m the only customer for the 30 mins I’m there. Smallish group of twink boys on stage looking disinterested. Next to the other Fresh Boys in Patpong 2. A few customers this time and a couple with boys sitting with them. I think a better selection of boys here and I enjoyed the show. Early night though as I have a hacking cold. Bugger. Still thinking about option for tonight, maybe Jupiter!

So sorry to hear of your recent challenges. I've missed your posts and wondered what happened. Your current situation scares the s**t out of me. We had / have similar mobility issues and I'm not ready for hospital stays or rehab / rest home. I truly hope that your stay is not months but weeks. Hope you are able to post more. I know it's a pain to type from bed. But, hang in there and know we'd love to see you back on this site.

From The Nation (22 Apr.) Cambodia and Thailand reconnected by rail after 45 years Poipet, Cambodia - A railway reconnecting Cambodia and Thailand was officially inaugurated on Monday in a bid to slash travel times and boost trade between the southeast Asian neighbours. The railway would also better link his country to other southeast Asian neighbours and boost economy and trade, he added. Bilateral trade between Thailand and Cambodia currently stands at $6 billion. Cambodia last year re-opened the final stretch of a 370-kilometre (230-mile) railway running from the capital, Phnom Penh, to the Thai border. The Asian Development Bank bankrolled the reconstruction of the link to the tune of $13 million. Much of Cambodia's railways -- built by the French in colonial times -- were damaged by the years of bitter conflict that engulfed the country during the Cold War era. The 48-kilometre (30-mile) section of track near Poipet was destroyed in 1973 while the rest of the track to Phnom Penh had been suspended for over a decade due to its poor condition. The Southeast Asian country has more than 600 kilometres (375 miles) of track extending from its northern border with Thailand to the southern coast. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30368126

Drimvoiz Vinapu and Hank75 thanks for your input. I will certainly make Bkk my first port of call during my next trip and visit gay bars where hunks are to be found. I did this maybe 15 years ago but my memories have faded about my activities, but I do remember offing one muscle boy who I took to the Tantawan Hotel.

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Regular service, however, will not begin until the two countries settle on the schedule and other details. That is expected to be completed by the end of the year, acting State Railway of Thailand governor... https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/tourism-and-transport/1664764/thailand-cambodia-ready-to-relaunch-train-link

Glad to hear you’re getting the help you need. Stay strong and check in when you can!

From Bangkok Post (22 Apr.) Thai AirAsia adds Sihanoukville to Cambodia routes Chairs line Ochheuteal beach in Sihanoukville, the seaside beach town in Cambodia. (Post Today photo) Thai AirAsia is to start direct service from Don Mueang airport to the Cambodian beach town of Sihanouk. The airline on Monday announced the new route, to commence on July 1, as part of its strategy to extend its network around the region from its Thai hub at Don Mueang. “The new route is expected to serve the millions of foreign travellers who use Thailand as a hub, while for Thai travellers, Sihanoukville offers an affordable beach and cultural getaway,” Thai AirAsia chief executive officer Santisuk Klongchaiya said. https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/tourism-and-transport/1665260/thai-airasia-adds-sihanoukville-to-cambodia-routes

Sorry about your complications, @Avalon1849 I hope that things will improve in your new living conditions. Keep it up!

The shop opposite Tawan was probably Art Massage. Hope you get to explore it another time. Thanks for initial report. He will make you happy for many minutes, I think.

It appears that AEC has added a couple of women to their roster -- and not apparently ladyboy-type women, but I will not be investigating that particular question. I don't know if that will change the overall mood of the joint. But FYI. AEC Facebook

Heart? Smile? I did not get it :)

I hope you find a resolution to all this that works for you, Avalon. Try to stay in touch if you can.

Neither. Most of those young guys are in PTY very temporarily, have been brought there by friends etc. and stay close by them. It is NOT a Thai virtue to be able how to read maps, nor specific parochialism, they expect to be collected and guided along the way to unknown places, that simple the Thai way. if no relative is @ hand for that, there are the motosy-boys, who you pay more for knowing the area as to sit behind their asses. So that would also nhave solved that problem of reaching Poseidon. But then even Christian took at least 5-6 yrs before he grasped it that this is the Thai way and no sign of backwardness. (perhaps similar to Brits or USAers who are still unable to read the 24 hr clock or what KMs and KGs mean-Thai do).

Z909 - Logic ? Thai Boys ? Don’t think they go together ! could be reasons you suggest. I remember a couple of years ago when I was staying at the Poseidon in the Complex. I contacted a boy via Planet Romeo who said he would join me there but couldn’t say when that might be. I have him my telephone number and told him to call when he arrived. Maybe half an hour passed and I started to think he was not coming but my phone rang - it was him asking where I was. I of course said Poseidon Hotel - Jomtien Complex but that did not seem to register. I passed my phone to the guy on reception who gave the boy instructions. Apparently he did not know where the Complex was and had continued on the baht bus to the far end of Jomtien Beach Road looking for Poseidon. He had only been in Pattaya a few days. So the moral of my account is not to assume that all Thais have a good knowledge of Pattaya’s geography.