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It’s been years since my last visit to Babylon. In the dark, I recall hands on my head and interest waned when they found no hair. An acquaintance, who sports a full toupee, sits in the dark room and when his head is touched, it’s a full head of hair and he can ‘smoke’ all comers. If one could see how enormous and ancient, the toupee wearer was, most would flee. One ploy is to wait outside the dark room and follow a desirable lad inside. The dark room levels the playing field, but I like to see before I play.

4000 to 5000 tip plus 1000 off fee. Presumably that’s for long time ?. I would never pay prices like that. I’ve just finished 16 days in Pattaya where I slept with boys most nights and paid 1600 to 2000 plus the off fee,. Boys were from Winner, Cupidol, Complex Bars and Planet Romeo. However they were twinks so we are not talking about the same thing. The guy above would certainly tempt me if I decided to give BKK a try, if the cost was more reasonable. Is it possible to get a muscled non-model hunk for say 3000 all in long time ?

From what I know, the bar fees is 1000 bath (if you take them after show around 11). The boy tips is 5000. This does not include the entrance fees, mamasan tips and any second drink for the boy.

I just walked past the new place. There were 2 shirtless guys on bar stools giving their best smiles trying to get you in, Both would be considered muscle boys.

#71 is a Cambodian boy called Nan, very popular with Chinese customers.

The bar formerly known as X-Boys is now open as "Lucky Boys." It is up some stairs right next to Dreamboy Paradiso. It looks like Bangkok Massage will take up its traditional place next door. Wonder if the new name is one way to get out from under the negative reviews reported in some of the Middle Kingdom boards?

This last trip, i met an Asian guy on vacation from a nearby country and we hit it off pretty good. I even felt truly attracted to him differently then i feel with guys i just want to have sex with. When it comes to guys i meet on vacation, I'm of the philosophy to kiss them, squeeze them, screw them and leave them. There are a precious few i will see again and even fewer can get me to remember their name. There is one guy in Pattaya I remember and will see again from BBB, one from Bangkok and one guy in Phuket. I don't know their names and i doubt they know mine. So last trip I met this guy on grinder, hot and masculine. He asked for nothing and was good company as we made our way around the city malls. We met again for street food and kept in touch through the line app once we were back in our own countries. We exchanged pictures and talked a bit. I purchased my tickets for April, he mentioned he wish he could come and before the day was done I purchased tickets for him to meet me in Bangkok in May. He is a student and mentioned he won't have much money and I told him I'll cover his expenses... Now he is asking for me to find a Samsung note 8 phone. He asked for it as a gift and I told him no, he asked to go half and I told him no. He asked for a 1/3 contribution from me and again I told him I would not put a single dollar to his phone. Too harsh? He will be sharing my Bangkok hotel with me for 3 days. Would it be rude to spend 1 night with him and then put him up in his own room for the remaining 2 nights he is in town? I only think about all the guys i could have coming in and out my door... Too selfish? Would i be cons8dered an old style Cad? Him... When i met him he had long thick hair cut into a bob, lean hard body and his clothes could not hide his muscle form. He reminded me of a dark haired Justin Bieber. No, i don't have a thing for Justin but i would not kick him off me... He told me he just came from the gym but everytime I saw him, his body signified strength. But still.... I want variety.... Have any of you done something so silly as to put a guy on layaway only to have 2nd thoughts and want a return/refund?

I am often surprised how money boys memorize you and recognize you. I have only rarely encountered that it was clearly fake and I was sure we never met. It happened also this current trip. Two boys I had only offed ones, still remembered me. (And I remembered them, but that is not strange, I see no boys at all between trips, while they keep seeing customers when I am back home). How do they do it? My last visit was October. Now at my current visit we are 5 months further in time. In these 5 months they must have had quite some other customers. Others recognize this?

Yes if his customer for the night is a regular who stays till closing time, which many of his female fan club seem to be. That was how I got up close with Boom, whom I’ve always admired from a distance haha. His customer was happy to stay for karaoke and he went around shaking hands and drinking shots with the other remaining customers.

In my opinion at least, it is even better fun than the actual show itself. Fantastic vibe, good music, most of the tourists have left, the boys are relaxed and up for a drink. Lots of winking at other customers over the shoulders of their actual customer for the night (Arm and Boom in particular are good at working the room LOL). Try to go when Poppy and PJ are performing, you won’t be disappointed.

That is indeed one area where Thais positively surprise me. Not just boys I had sex with. In 2018, a taxi driver told me he once drove me and a friend, and as he specified the place where I got out, he was right! That was in 2013, my friend took taxi to Pattaya and I got out at ABAC on the way. Sometimes I just recognize the boy, but he remembers my name, where I come from and other stuff we talked about, and where we went and what we did. However, some are just fishing. One told me met x years ago and had sex, without going into detail, but as he is not my type I can say with certainty that we never had sex. I remember where they come from much better than their names. I sometimes have to refer to my notes or even to my blog to refresh my memory about a particular boy, in order to decide whether to meet him again or not, or what to pay attention to.

From Khaosod English (3 Apr.) Future Forward Leader Hit With Sedition Charge BANGKOK — Another serious legal threat has hit the leader of Future Forward Party, this time an accusation of sedition. Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit posted online on Wednesday a photo of a legal document showing that the Pathum Wan police have summoned him to hear charges over “causing disorder and disobedience among the public” that could lead to “the acts of rebellion.” “When the dark power won’t leave Future Forward alone,” Thanathorn wrote in the accompanying post. “It’s clear now that the old-school political game won’t end after the election, but is only getting more intense, because they’re afraid of Future Forward.” “They’re afraid of our wins that exceeded the expectations of many, afraid of politics based only on policies and ideologies that can build faith and support from the public without money or authority, afraid of the truth that nearly 6.3 million people sincerely support Future Forward Party,” he continued. Thanathorn added that he would meet police investigators on Saturday as scheduled. If convicted, he faces a jail term of up to seven years. The junta’s legal team said the charge was based on Thanathorn’s alleged involvement in a 2015 anti-coup demonstration, in which a group of activists staged a protest at the Pathum Wan police station. One of those activists was Rangsiman Rome, who might become one of Future Forward’s party-list MPs. The protesters were arrested and charged with violating the junta’s ban on political gatherings. It’s the latest case of criminal prosecution and the most serious charge yet against Future Forward, a party with progressive policies that is popular among young people. The prosecutor’s office is also reviewing a cybercrime case against Thanathorn and two executive party members that involves online criticism of the ruling junta. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2019/04/03/future-forward-leader-hit-with-sedition-charge/

I also do not like all the Empty or Skipped Lines. Like a terrible Word Document... Asked about this but have not gotten a reply...

During the day, I managed to do a long walk and to see big turtoises in Copacabana Bay. Totally unexpected. Either Luths or green. Big : more than 1 m long. At first I thought I was dreaming since only a shape was visible. But with patience, it soon became clear it was really turtoises in the Rio de Janeiro bay. They are clearly visible when they come at the surface of the water to breathe ... Enjoy ..

Wednesday. Sex day. After breakfast I hooked up with 2 guys staying in the same hotel as me. One did not appeal to me but the other was quite Ok. He was ready for a quick romp and I was in the same state of mind. We met in the lobby and he came to my room for a quickie. Slightly Hairy chest, nice face. Immediately hard and ready to take a dick in his ass, only fearing that his buddies might notice something. Very short session. Lot of cum ... During the afternoon, A. joined me for a "massage". Chat is also on the program. A is good looking and easy going. Speaks about his bf, sex, ... Nice quiet session with a giod looking guy. Pointe 202 is next on the program. I do not plan a session and decline all invitations. As usual the music is far too loud. Impossible to speak ! Nice chat with various friends. During the evening, a sex show is performed live : coins are thrown in the jacuzzi and 2 naked boys struggle to retrieve most of the coins. The show is broadcasted live in the club and commented by one of the presentatoes of the later show. Sound is again too loud but the performance is rather sexy and turns me on. This show, which can be seen live in front the jacuzzi, is a big turn on. A great idea of Pointe ! I am pretty excited after the show and when I see F., his cute face and perfect body, I am unable to resist. F. Is from Manaus. Incredibly cute. He wzs supposed to be only top when I ask him if he bottoms, he agrees with pleasure. He used to go with women. Now he goes with men and he prefers to go with older guys ... in the room, he shows a cock which is immediately hard. I fuck him in the "frango assado" position so that I can see his cute face and kiss him. He loves wanking our cocks together. While I fuck his tight little ass, alterning quiet strokes and harder all the way penetration, I see pleasure coming on his face first and through a long cumshot in second. After he comes, I also cum on his torso and we conyinue kissing muxing our sperms on our bodies. Short shower. End of session. We are both so happy. A repeat has absolutely to be planned .... Perfect sessions today .... Let us see what tomorrow will bring.

His name is Smart and I think the reason they didn’t reply is because he doesn’t always take offs, but he will when cash strapped or a good tip is offered. Be prepared to pay 5000 tip though you might get lucky and he asks for 4000. I am a fan of his towel dance too!

So much BS which of course is what you do. Where did I infer that you don't like Thailand. That would be silly of me since you visit it constantly . Of course you like it for some of the things you said but mostly because of the Cheap Sex ( nothing wrong with that) . If there was no cheap Sex , you would move on. You tried to compare Cambodia to Thailand with studies that I posted and you reposted and like most of those studies they are liable to miss the reality. Anyone who would compare Cambodia with Thailand has to be ignorant to see the facts with his own eyes. Cambodia is where Thailand was 40 years ago. Their transportation systems are pitiful compared to Thailand . Their roads are pitiful.Their banking system is archaic . Their schooling system make Thailand look like Harvard . Studies never impress me. They are done by academics and are usually years behind but of course when you google for information that is what you get and I speed read them and then see if I can agree with what my eyes tell me. My eyes tell me about Thailand and 35 years of visiting and residing. More tall buildings as apartments and Condos than ever before and actually people are buying them. Many of them are being bought by foreigners but many Thais are also buying them to live in or as investments.When you spend most of your time in at best moderate Hotels and in Massage Parlors and GoGo Bars you are unlikely to see the change in the middle class in Bangkok . When you live in a mixed use Commercial and residential building and you find 100's of office workers ( Mostly women) going into the Starbucks in the morning you start to realize that BKK is a vibrant city with an increasing middle class. There is hardly any middle class in Cambodia . I'm not trying to compare Thailand with Singapore . That would be as ridiculous as comparing Thailand with Cambodia. And frankly with the prices in Singapore , I would rather go to Switzerland for the same money. And my comparisons of Thailand to Cambodia have nothing to do with the people . I have spent many weeks in Cambodia and find the people delightful but they have many more years to over come the destruction of the Khmer Rouge and even begin to approach Thailand in any metric.

Por used to work in Kawaii boys in Pattaya back in his early days, but seems to be based in Bkk these days and selling his clips via Twitter on LINE Interestingly Pablo Bravo uses condoms on some of his boys and not on others.... I wonder is it that they refuse to go BB with him, or he refuses to go BB with them after he tests them e.g. Por and Pablo movie had condoms, but the Por and Lithuanian guy on same site was filmed in same room (same day?) and was BB

As for me, I don't need a list of #s since I'll only write 2 boys I've like but never been with: Arm and Babe, haa haa

Not to mention Moonlight got the best show since they've got all you want in a show but you're right, Jupiter2018's edge is their hunky boys who knows how to tease the audience.

Patpong 2 is starting 2 look-like Soi Twilight...

I wish I had a face to go with the number! I need to start keeping a little black book for all the boy numbers we discuss here.

Been there on the opening night but didn’t stay longer. Out of 3 shows I’ve seen, 2 of them are ladyboy shows. Not to mention that the new venue is small. Small as in 1/3 size of the DB in soi twilight.

Yep I have seen it. Absolutely Horrifying! I was hoping new Dreamboy would get rid of the awful lady boys but it seems that it’s not going to happen. The old Dreamboy was turning into old lady boys retirement home. Once there were 8 ladyboys in shows. No wonder my friend’s regular boy is extremely worried if the new bar could attract enough customers who actually off boys not just watch LBs comedy shows.

117. Free cabins nite. So many boys, so many customers, so good show. Incredibly good atmosphere. I like 117. In addition, except during the show in the room where show is held, the music is not too loud and you can speak to other persons without shouting as it is needed in Pointe 202 ! I planned a threesome but one boy sent me picture of him at work to explain that he was not coming and the other one went with another first ... I was wandering what to do when a boy came to me with a big smile on his face. I did not recognize him at first then I remembered him, V. From Belo Horizonte. He comes every 2 months to Rio and I met him last November. He cannot go to the sauna in Recife first because ot does not bring sufficient money and second because a member of his family goes there and he does not want to see him ... V. has manly and cute face. Last time I saw him he was shaved. Now he let his hair grow a little and he is cute and sexy. Even though he does not bottom often, he did it for me tonite. So kissing, sucking and fucking were all 5*. Another very good session.

After staying so long in 7th heaven with the boys, it is good to go back to earth. I took opportunity of the perfect weather today to do delta fly. I arranged everything through whattsapp with the operator I selected. They came to pick me up at San Conrado metro station and took me to the beach where we were to land later. The moutain from which we will start is impressive, dominating the beach by 700 meters (start of flight in fact is "only" 520 meters above sea level). The monitors arrive and off we go climbing the hill through a narrow road through the Tijuca rainforest. The departing platform is impressive. The view is stunning. The Rocinha favela, below the 2 irmaos mountain, is on the left then the golf course and the Sao Conrado buildings and beach. In the distance a few islands. Spectacular ... The instructor equips me with outfit and helmet, teaches me how to run at take off and off we go ... Most impressive moments are take off, of course, then when the instructor asked me to cross my arms and did the same, when he let me pilot the delta removing his both hands from the bar, when we faced the second camera (above pic) and when he gave me instructions for landing : I was supposed to run with him but both my legs were tied with strings .... If you like some adrenaline and do have vertigo, it is fun. Since the body and the mind feel that I was in danger, I have an incredible need of fucking ... If you want to get more info, pm me

I didn’t go inside so can only report on what I saw and heard sitting at Maxi’s till 10. There were only 2 touts working out front , but with barely no foot traffic they were board. Usually you see boys coming and going in the side door, but I saw none, I suspect there had to be some boys or they wouldn’t be touts working to get you inside. Also interesting, the German owner, or ex owner, always leaves after 11:30 show. Last night he left at 9. There was a German customer in Maxi’s and they sat and talked for 5 minutes. I’ve never seen him leave that early, but can be any number of reasons why. But I’m sure no customers could be high on the list.

In an earlier life I was a sign interpreter for the deaf. Actually did court room interpreting in San Diego. About 95% of the time it included hand signing. But, one man grew up hearing and became deaf later in life. Sign language was very difficult for him and he relied on lip reading. So, when he went to court I did NOT use sign language but mouthed the words. It's often difficult to understand lip reading from unfamiliar people (mustaches, fat lips, etc). Not at all unusual for a marginally signing deaf person to rely on an interpreter that he / she can easily lip read.

After we left Moonlight we decided to go to Screwboys since they open late night. We entered the bar, initially shocked by cigarette smoking ambience and on second look, the place was packed with 30+boys all shapes and sizes, very very thin almost starving looking boys included.I couldn’t see the back of the bar clearly but the bar seemed full of customers. I found ex Jupiter boy smiling at me, he moved to Moonlight last November but now he is at Screwboys. We sat at near stage as the good seats were already filled with customers. All boys were wearing white and blue striped underwear and the place looked like an old fashioned sleazy gogo bar from old times. The difference of boys attitude was striking, boys looking at you smiling, obviously eager for an off, my friend commented it’s a quite refreshing as he got so used to Jupiter/Moonlight boys. Unfortunately, mamasans, customers and boys are all smoking cigarettes like there’s no tomorrow adding the place is very compact and stuffy, I decided I could not stay any longer since I wasn’t wearing gas mask. Mamasan said the show starts 1:00 am. The drink was 300 baht.

You need to hear him speak. That should reframe your reaction to him. He's a quality guy and we can be proud that he is not messing this up. In other words, he speaks well for his community. I am proud of him.

yes, some even like twinks

Good timing with the bump on this post! I am desperately looking for somewhere to stay in BKK on 11-14 April and all of the usual haunts are either sold out or on my blacklist D Varee Express Pula Silom is one of the few places that is showing availability (even though its an ever increasing €79+€93+€111 rip off for each subsequent night) Has anyone else stayed there and have any comments (incidentally I can get the Novotel Fenix or Holiday Inn cheaper than above - if anyone has comments on those as alternates) The rooms that I have seen in Red Planet look pretty small to me To Add to readers list: Glitz- no lift, very very low bed which curves downwards and is difficult to get in ad out of. Has safe. No soap or shampoo in the bathroom dispensers. Didn't bring a joiner, but night reception didn't seem like they would care. Great AC. A bit noisy from road Rose - Small rooms, awful AC, joiners ok. No noise.I would never stay again Raya - jewel in the crown of the area, if only they had availability on all my dates! Tarntawan - everyone knows here, but should comment that the AC is brutal. It has 2 modes, OFF or ON ad nothing in between. I would never stay again D Varee Bally Diva - great location next to DJ. Pig ignorant staff. Windows that don't close and allow in mosquitoes. mediocre air. Death trap lift. I would never stay again

Thank you, I couldn't agree more!! This annoys me very often, too, and even more annoyingly this also happens in luxury hotels. I seriously do't get it why they design bathrooms with nowhere to put stuff. Another bathroom related thing is that very often they don't have anywhere to even put/hand the towels. Isn't that one of THE most basic features of any bathroom?

Back in Bangkok for 5 nights. Got room in Raya. This time, I arranged to meet my regular Vietnam boy, Y; at the hotel reception. I wanted two card keys so I got him to sign in and the staff made a photocopy of his passport. Off we went to room and did some catching up. He just came back to Bangkok on Friday after an extended Tet celebrations in Vietnam. Y works at Freshboys Twilight. I surprise Y with a Vietnam Football jersey that I bought in Singapore. Vietnam won last year’s ASEAN Suzuki Cup; a bi-annual Football competition for the 10 ASEAN countries. Y is a big Football fan who watches Football and plays Football games on his handphone. He wears the Vietnam jersey and is pleased. I got the right size for him. He takes it off and looks at the label inside. Made in Thailand. We laugh at the irony. We chatted some more then proceeded to sex. After that, showered and went down to Happy Beer Garden for dinner. Y asks me if I could buy him a pair of white shoes for work. (The Freshboys gogo boy look is white briefs and white shoes). His current pair is many years old. He shows me a photo of the Adidas shoes he wants on his handphone. I joke with him, “It’s probably made in Thailand.” Nevertheless, I agree and pass him money to buy the shoes while I go to Maxis to catch up with Paulsf. unfortunately, Paul wasn’t at his usual spot. I sent him a message on Line. He wasn’t feeling well and had to stay home to rest. We shall meet tomorrow night. I sit at the best seat at Maxis and had a great view of the boys in white briefs on stage in Freshboys as well as the massage boys next door. Of course, I could see the people coming in and out. An average night at Soi Twilight. Not packed but not dead as well. Z, a Vietnamese waiter from X Boys came over. He remembered me from last year. Happy to see each other. I tell Z that I cannot Long time him tonight as I as with Y. I agree to meet Z tomorrow. Then the X Boys Vietnamese mamasan came over as well having seen me too. “You want P?” P is a Thai boy whom I always see. But he never comes in early. He always comes in late after 10pm for big cock show. Yes, I replied. Thursday night please. So just like that, I have filled up my itinerary for Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights. I only have Friday and Saturday nights to meet new boys. i find out the latest news. It is true. Twilight is closing. In April, everything will close. Z says that he will move to one of the gogo bars at Patpong to be waiter / part time boy. I boy watch at Maxis. In fact, I see some promising offs at Freshboys. But I am unlikely to off them because Y works there. Y finally comes back with his shoes. I look at label. Made in Vietnam. We laugh. He is happy and I am happy. As we leave Twilight, Z together with other Vietnamese waiters from the gogo bars come out to chat with Y and check out his shoes. I realise now that Y and Z are good friends. I didn’t realise it because they are from different bars. Y and I go to a music pub at Patpong. The two bands there are really awesome. They play a mix of mainstream pop plus Japanese and Korean tunes. Their regular Japanese customers get up and dance and some even go on stage to sing with the band singers. Y finds the music too loud. I tell him to go back to room and chill and wait for me. I enjoy the music for an hour. At midnight, I drop by supermarket at foodland Patpong for drinks and snacks then go back to hotel room to be with Y for the night.

When visiting Borobudur in Java I was positively mobbed for that purpose and I must be on at least 50-60 of those selfies including whole class , one by one with teacher first

Sorry to have missed you. Had plans (hehehe) for later that evening at my place. Glad Ganymede worked out for you. I have a guy there who is spectacular - top 1%, but works a few weeks at a time, then travels around spreading joy. (Not your Ken.). Can't vouch for everyone who works there, but generally guys seem to have great attitude. My advice - go for the "body to body" massage. Sounds like you've had a wonderful trip. Thanks for the reports.

Boys seem to remember faces exceptionally well (how? when their memories are so poor for everything else) even those that you do not off. Names, not so much. But one industrious lad, who already knew I wasn’t going to off him then or ever after as he’s a friend of my regular, couldn’t pronounce my name so he opened a notepad app, jotted down the date and asked me to spell out my name for him. I saw many other similar customer entries On my next visit six weeks later, he took a good look at my face then unerringly found the right entry on his phone and proudly showed it to me. Probably the most suprising for me was when Poppy the singer at Jupiter broke off mid song to shout in my direction “Hello! I remember you!” even though I hadn’t been there for four months and he had only seen me from the stage during late night live music - no real interaction or conversation, and of course he was not angling for an off. He did get a nice tip for that piece of flattery though!

Day 3 For some reason, I woke up early at 7.30am even though Z and I only slept at 3am. I woke Z up and asked him if we could have breakfast together. He said yes. We showered together then went for breakfast. Z loves eggs. He had 4 eggs over 2 rounds at the buffet. I noticed his Iphone with its cracked screen. Z said it dropped out of his pocket when he was cleaning his bar. He showed me the side of his Iphone. “Ban”. I was perplexed. He brought his Iphone closer to my eyes and I realised what he meant. Bent! i asked him if he could get it repaired at nearby Silom Square. “MBK,” he said. Ok. Half an hour later, we were in a taxi to MBK. 4th level is where gadgets are sold. Z took me to a shop, where he had repaired his previous phone’s battery. “2700 baht,” the lady said. “Let’s shop around,” I suggested. A few minutes later, we found a shop that could do it for 1500 baht plus 250 baht for screen protector. We went to foodcourt for drinks and waited half an hour before going back for the Iphone. Z’s face lighted up when he saw it repaired. I then suggested buying a proper case to protect the Iphone. We went to another shop, got a sturdy looking case. Z bargained the 300 baht price to 280 baht. Total cost was less than the 2700 baht first quoted. We left MBK happy both him and me. Spent the rest of the day in bed with Z in hotel room. At 5pm, Z got up to get ready for work. Waiters have to report at 6pm to clean the bar thoroughly before opening at 8 plus. I said goodbye to Z and gave him his long time tip.

Day 2 I woke up at 9. Y was still asleep. I ask him if he would like to have breakfast with me. He said he preferred to continue sleeping so I went down to the hotel breakfast. After breakfast, I went back to room, slipped back into bed with Y and started fondling him. He got the hint. I didn’t want to cum as I wanted to go for massage so i made Y cum instead. He showered then I gave him his tip and he went off to join his friends at the gym. He has a group of friends who gym every afternoon. i lounged around in room until 1pm then made my way to AEC massage Sathorn, a new place recommended by DivineMadman. After massage, it was late lunch and a bit of shopping for souvenirs at Silom Square and happy hour beer at the sports pub along Surawong Road. The workers were setting up Patpong Night market just next door. Weather was bearable even though it was 33 degrees because of a strong breeze. I headed back to hotel, watched some Netflix until 8pm then went for dinner and off to Maxis. Paulsf was already there and I joined him in an hour of delightful conversation. Vietnam boys came to greet him as usual. I was flabbergasted when Paulsf told me about Sunday’s election which meant no alcohol from 6pm Saturday which meant all bars are closed. Oh no! What will I do on Saturday? Paulsf suggested that I make arrangement to book a boy in advance. Excellent piece of advice! From our view at Maxis, we could see a particular boy at Freshboys peeking behind the curtain of the door. He was in his white briefs and covering himself with curtain. Cute twinky looking lad. I was tempted to go into Freshboys just to buy him a drink and chat with him. Besides him, there are many other boys who have piqued my curiosity. But Y works at Freshboys and I have this rule not to off other boys working in same bar as my regular boys. Paulsf replied it doesn’t really matter and the boys don’t really mind because they are basically working just for the money. I decided I would check out Freshboys tomorrow. Paulsf said he would go tonight and find out more about curtain boy. Crowd at Twilight seemed busy. By 10pm, both Freshboys and X-Boys started their shows. Paulsf and I talked about how XBoys used to be popular compared to Freshboys (now it was the reverse) but declined due to poor management. We found out that XBoys would close next week and we speculated that it would be the end as there wasn’t any indication that they were looking for new premises. The barkers along the Soi seemed less aggressive. Even the famous Hot Male barker let people through without much resistance. The end is near indeed and guys seemed to be just turning up for work and enjoying the final moments. Z, the Vietnamese waiter whom I had prebooked waited patiently for me while I chatted with Paulsf. In fact, I found out from him that I had mispelled his name, having heard it wrongly when he said it to me last year. His name starts with T instead of Z. Anyway, for continuity purposes, I shall continue calling him Z. I asked Z what he would like to do. I suggested Fake Club and DJ Station but he said he didn’t like the crowds and loud music. So we ended up paying pool at Patpong with some girls. Z enjoyed himself. On our way to Patpong, we passed by Freshboys Patpong. Z greeted the barkers standing outside. He would be working there as a waiter from April onwards. He managed to secure a job through a Friend. Happy for him. Quite a number of waiters, gogo boys and mamasans at Twilight are still waiting. “Wait and see” is their common response. After pool, Z and I stopped by convenience store for supplies for the night. He would be staying until 5pm the next day when he would have to report for work at his bar.