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Hi, you did such a good job in describing all the fun places in Brazil, I want to correct one thing you said about Lagoa. Readers might read your post and look for the changing area you mentioned in your post. You wrote - "In 117 (and also in Lagoa in SP) the place where boys change street clothes to sauna towels is in the basement. You can sip your beer on a bench and look at the boys undressing." In Lagoa, the changing room is not in the basement. Only in Rio at 117 is the changing room in the basement. At Lagoa, the changing area is not a room. It is a large space directly close to the small swimming pool. I want to avoid new visitors to Lagoa from looking for a basement at Lagoa when there is none available to clients or garotos.

Today, from a Dreamboys capitan: "Dreamboys Soi Twilight still open until after Songkran."

Of course that is the root of your problem . You look at the boys you hire as a 3rd world prostitutes and in your mind a prostitute is a low level human being who is only there to provide you with pleasure. I might be wrong but I think many of our members here have a more evolved feeling of both the country and the boys that give them pleasure. I would guess many of our members even know countries where prostitution is completely legal and and the money is quite good. I would also guess some ,at least of our members come from a country where prostitutes make high 6 figure incomes and have the same wants of many of us for a nice home and cars etc. I and I think many of our members are not put off by the boys asking for something . Because they know that the boy is just asking without assuming. Nothing ventured nothing gained! Different if the boy reacts badly if his request is denied . I would guess that happens about 1% or less of the time. I said it before and of course you ignored it that there is no chance you would ever buy a boy an 8000 baht phone . That is 8x your maximum to pay a boy for giving you pleasure and I am sure there are many times you paid less than 1000 baht. Anyone who actually travels the world would never refer to Thailand as a 3rd world country. You spend a lot of time in the agrarian sections of Thailand where boys are cheaper and you can feel more superior . That would be similar to someone referring to the farm areas of Iowa as a 3rd world country in the USA. You are not really well travelled although you think you are . And many of your comments show disdain for the Thai people . Again as I have written before, I think many , even most of our members have a much higher opinion of Thailand and the Thai people . I know I do !

Sunday Went to the annex of Point 202 in Ipanema. It opens at 3 pm. Many boys available, waiting on the beach, who can be taken to one of the 2 rooms under the tent. Comfortable. No hot shower though. Went with Naivo. (You believe that all that you read on internet is true ? Then, you are the Naive)

of what year?

It should be soon. I saw ealier on FaceBook a video of some boys practicing dancing routines.

The bars in Soi Twilight are relocated...mostly in Patpong 2...though some are still open til end of April (like Dream Boy)...

Things should be fine...your possible dates encompass the coronation of the King...may mean some closures, etc.

If my plan doesn't fall off, I should be arriving at BKK on 4/25. will I still make it on time before they completely shut down this place?

My heart sank a little when I saw former Moonlight ladyboy aggressively promoting Paradiso on FB, having been recruited to be part of the new line up. I was hoping they would focus on the boys more this time...seems the old formula hasn’t changed much but hopefully I am proven wrong.

And looking well from his enforced break...might have been good for him

Both unicorn and nycman are correct. Call your doctor and the first thing their recording says is, if this is an emergency, go to the ER. OTOH, once in the ER likely the docs will do exactly what unicorn suggests. Try to stabilize the patient, inform the attending (your doc) and call for help if things go awry. Unfortunately the modern practice of medicine is too much aligned with the bottom line. Hospitals are taking over and controlling docs and the practice of medicine. We already are only too aware of the influence of big pharmacy, insurance and the feds in general. Regardless of how and whether we have significant health reform in the US, we do not have enough docs and other medicos. Cheap Rx and universal pay for health care will not solve the current problems. Best regards, RA1

Mr. Nicky is back...he’s one of the 9 in the latest FB video...

As of 10pm tonight there were no customers in Dreamboys Twilight. And with very little foot traffic hard to believe they will have much going on.

Actually, in Google there is a post that DB Paradiso is now open and the DB in Soi Twilight is still open until end of April...I'll post it in DB Paradiso thread!

This is really funny as I had similar experience in Thailand though it was my first time in Pattaya but not quite like the others I am sure. I went to X-Boys back in December-18 and just wanted to enjoy the show, they seems to have some ritual about customer entering and guys clapping (not sure I like that kinda attention) but anyway, the moment I settled down and placed my order for drink, mamasan came over and sat next to me, usually I don't like them sitting next to me as I rather like my space or a company of a guy, To ensure things don't get awkward, I started to chat a bit and ask about the guys, this one or that one just to pass the time until they leave or the show starts so that I can concentrate on what I came here to do but this one seems to have no urgency to attend any other customer, instead I started to get little massage and rather me checking goods of the guy (if someone was sitting next to me), this one was interested checking mine (quite a funny moment as I wasn’t being paid, lol, though not so comforting on the other hand). Anyway, soon the key question came, who do you like, after putting off couple of times, I pointed out a guy who was sitting with other farang like me, (hoping since he's already drinking with someone, he wouldn't come and I will be off the hook) but guess I was wrong, this mamasan immediately went and checked with customer and in a minutes, the guy was sitting next to me, without finishing his drink. The good part is, the guy was of my liking so it all worked out at the end but when I think of it, I find it funny. So much attention, almost having molested by mamasan but not being paid ,not wanting to choose a guy but end up choosing it, all fun memories, guess that’s why they call it land of smiles.

I would not spend much thought on it. In all my years of going to gogo bars, with a ratio of looking to buying of about 10 to 1, I was in a similar situation only once. That was in Eros about 4 years ago. A boy I had before and wanted again was sitting with a customer, so I asked staff if the customers intends to off the boy. The answer was no, so I waited and got the boy soon after. Else I would have gone somewhere else. Another occasion, a few months ago in Kawaii, a boy I was keen on (from chatting online) and would have offed was sitting with a customer, and it looked like they would spend more time, so I did not interfere. Anyway, I spend most of my time in Thailand, so I can let others, who most like are tourists, get the boy first and I can get him later (and I did!). As for befriending mamasan, about 5 years ago I befriended a mamasan at Classic Boys Bangkok, or at least I thought so. But after chatting with him several times, and buying him beers several times, it became clear to me that he is not interested in friendship, but in the beer I buy him. As for having regulars, I would quickly get to doing this business directly in order to save time and money. (For me, going to a bar knowing which boy I would take home is a waste of time and money. Others might have different attitudes.)

But they do so with their own money (or on credit or mortgage). Whereas the money boys want us to buy them things. And my opinion is that a third-world prostitute does not need (but might want) a first-world trophy phone (and as my current phone is a Samsung for 10 kTHB, I'm not preaching water and drinking wine; however in the past it was even easier when I could pull out my 8 kTHB i-mobile or 6 kTHB Asus Zenphone and show them: look, that's my phone, I won't buy you a (whatever).)

I didn't, but now that's definitely all I'll see

No specific date yet in April...

Re Screwboys the guy do actually rotate on stage, from back to front and then as they come to the front from left to right, agreed the layout is a compromise...but it adds a certain 'intensity' to that bar (with 30-40 guys) that you'd loose if you flipped it to a single row. The boys dominate that bar but in a good way, that's why your getting all the attention when you go in there as they know there's plenty of competition for an off so they have to try harder than boys in other bars. Its edgy and fun once you get into it, and me personally I prefer that vibe to some of the other Twilight bars (or rather former Twilight bars) that feel a bit more sterile to me...but each to their own. Also if you ask the staff to find you a better seat they will often hustle the boys not on stage who will be lounging around hogging a few seats playing with their delightful anatomy to move. I actually think the biggest problem is the lighting and a LOT more could be done to improve the feature lighting around the stage plus ambient lighting around the seating which would make life a lot easier, I must admit my eyes struggle to adjust at first when I enter from outside.

Good advice but I don't think I'd count on it to deter cops bent on enforcing Sharia law. Better to practice your peccadilloes in the LOS.

good to see that instead of mourning new opportunities are being discussed. Most of us will miss the soi but what we can do , other than shedding tear or two? Better explore new options than mop ashes

they have airconditioned "quiet room " there I guess. That very unfortunate event reminds us that soi 4 is a death trap with only on escape route which is one of reasons I'm not big fan of it. Soi Twilight or Boyztown are allowing escape , soi 4 may not

Pointe 202 Saturday In order to meet a friend and to finally meet V. I went to Pointe. Normally during the week end I never go to Pointe. As a matter of fact, as yesterday, there is a limited number of boys. Unattractive fortoes (Stocky boys), furniture boys ... V arrived perfectly on time. We combined quickly a session together. He agreed in being passive. Naked, V is really stunning, average dick size but nice and confortable ass. Great kisser. He kisses with his eyes open so one can see how green his eyes are, his long natural eyelashes and his pretty face. Sucking is do outro mundo (from another planet). Sooo good. Long sucking and kissing session prior to an also long fucking session. Then romantic cuddling on bed and cleaning sperm under the shower ... Worth many repeats ! Better in hotel to see him in daylight. My travelling buddy also joined me in Pointe. So very good evening at the end of the game. But during the week end ie friday, saturday and sunday, Pointe is definitely not the place to go IMHO.

I was there tonight for about an hour. The boys were sexy and there were more boys working than in ANY other bar I visited tonight. Dreamboys was dead with 6 boys on stage. The vibe was good, tons of cute twinks and yes, smoking all over. I hate smoking but usually don't notice until I leave and have watery eyes (if cute boys inside as that distracts me).

VOYEUR S GUIDE UN RIO The beach, particularly in Ipanema is good for eye candy in particular during the week ends. If you just want cute men with hard on, going to sauna 117 or Point 202 is enough. Attending the shows which start normally at 9 pm is another way to look at sexy men undressing themselves and then coming back on stage with a hard on. Changing rooms In 117 (and also in Lagoa in SP) the place where boys change street clothes to sauna towels is in the basement. You can sip your beer on a bench and look at the boys undressing. I think it is very sexy. Discover the torso, the ass, the cock,... is a turn on. Surprisingly for boys who are going to wank in public later, most boys remove their underwear under a towel. The place is also great to spot the newbies ie the boys coming to the club for the first time : they do not know where the lockers are, where to put the shoes, ... whenever I spot a newbie (rare !), I go with him immediately and agree on programa. The showers Another great place to see the boys soaping their bodies, insisting on asscrack and cock. Very sexy. Point is better since you can stay and watch. 117 is only accessible when you shower yourselves. Best is Lagoa in SP since you can sit at the bar and look at the boys ... and they regularly clean the glasses ... Wanking rooms Place where boys get hard on watching a straight porn movie. Not many customers go there. 117 is great. You can sit in the corner and look at the boys coming and wanking, sometimes commenting the movie and having fun. If you sit in the wanking room for some time, it is very likely that a boy will come and sit next to you. He will start wanking and eventually chatting with you and taking your hand for you to wank him. It you wank too long, it is a kind of agreement of going to programa ... Rex and Iris cinemas Both are in center. If you go during week days in the afternoon, you can see men wanking, sucking and even fucking. Cheap prostitutes around the room (40 to 50 R$) can suck you on the chairs or fuck you or be fucked in the dark corners. Whenever a fucking action takes place, men gather around to watch. Not a single word is pronounced. Seven Cruising bar More upscale cruising place in Rio. Not as kinky and dirty as Iris or Rex cinemas. Live sex shows Iris offers live sex shows mainly with girls. Point 202 is sometimes proposing live sex show (never managed to attend to one ...) Tv bar is proposing life sex show every thusday. Certainly worth discovering ... particularly since everyone tends to agree that saunas are weak on thursdays ... Finally you may want to organize your own private live show in a sauna. Chemistry between the 2 boys is essential orelse they are not going to suck or barely touch themselves. Best is to find a boy and together decide who could be his partner. He might already have experience and know a buddy who will be happy to do it with him. Roles should of course be defined beforehand : which one is going to be top and which one is going to be bottom or flip flop ? Of course you can only look at them performing or participate in a 3some which is a kind of interactive sex which can be very hot ...

Another great session out of nowhere on Friday morning...Good old grindr....6'1....215-220 Carioca....tanned...amazing legs...great ass...a bit hairier than I liked but will definitely fuck him again.... Weather wasnt the greatest on Friday....overcast and partly sunny... Beaches were dead.... Friday at 117 was LITTT...(crowded, festive, tons of boys and a lot of the regular old guard clients that frequent the sauna) I did notice a lot of older Afro Americans there... Overall great selection...a lot of new faces...go there around 7 and stayed until a little after 9:30....go go dancers, a drag performer and when I left, a stripper dancing in what Brazilians consider construction wear... I had a session with a slim, beautiful guy I have had a few times in the past...he is verbal, great ass, beautiful body, knows some English and is very accommodating....Fingers crossed he is there later today After having a few drinks in Lapa and some food, decided to come back to Copa.... The plans was to walk on the beach and get even more wasted but it started to sprinkle a little and I ended up back in the apartment watching netflix....No more nutts for Friday Its now Saturday am...SUNNY and beautiful out... Will tell you what unfolks...

Just like this? Lol...I just hope the boys is still in speedos and NOT wearing beach shorts or pants!!!

Tested and confirmed by me on Tuesday evening, the boys agree on "standard Sunee price" 300 baht for "show". For some reason this bar tries to up the price to 500 baht, but if you bargain with the boys 300 was accepted.

If a moneyboy main concern is his status or 'face' amongst his own friends who are fellow moneyboys that he should have the latest models of premium smartphones, may God help him in this life. I'm sure there are level headed ones out there who want to free themselves from this falsehood.

The latest models of phones by Chinese manufacturers as well as Nokia with good specifications can be had for 5k baht. More than good enough for the common prostitutes to do all the promotions in their daily life, communicating with the family and friends, playing games etc, and then put the rest of money in the bank for future needs. That is living beyond tomorrow.

Saturday during the day, I went to MASP (Museum of Art of Sao Paulo). The layout of masterpieces was attractive by itself When I purchased the ticket (20$R) they mentionned that the museum was partly closed but I was not expecting to see in the basement only an exhibition of a second tier autodidact brasilian painter, Djanira ... Naive art with buildings all looking like Pisa tower ...

As reported elsewhere Lagoa was ahain excellent this Saturday. Lots of boys. All types. Including some twinks who were not coming in the past as far as I remember. Some very good looking guys as likeohmygod reported elsewhere. Some furniture boys of course. Having a beer looking at the boys showering and wanking their cocks under the shower is sooo good ! The experienced boys shower and wank AND look at the customers who are interested in them. They make eye contact and after the shower they come to the customer they establushed eye contact with, while rubbing on the customer s shoulder their dick still in erection and trying to escape from the towel ... the newcomers just shower and wank. No eye contact in this case. If you are interested, you must go to them after the shower. This saturday, there were a few newcomers or at least not regular garotos. One did not even find the way to the boys'lockerroom. Another one was here to find quickly the money to repair his car ... Perfect evening again. I sticked (no pun intended) to my Thiago since he is so good looking and so good in bed. And able to accomodate a XXL cock. Finding a boy accepting to be passive is not always easy. But a boy accepting a huge cock is even more challenging. Some simply resign. "No way" "nem pensar" they say. But the real passive are soo happy. Left around 10 pm to go to the hotel and prepare for ABC Bailao. Going there earlier than midnight has no interest. There is almost no one and the air conditionning is so strong that it is damned cold. Later when 200 guys are dancing it is much better. Good music. Good fun. Pity there is no place for some more intimate action ... My date did not show up or I did not see him or he no longer wanted to meet me when he saw me. But I met others. Great evening. Left around 3 am.

Arrived rather early around 4.30 pm at Lagoa this Friday. Angelo from 117 was supposed to be here but did not show up. At the beginning, the place was rather quiet with furniture boys, some of them with impressive cocks. Having a beer in front of the shower is what I like most in Lagoa. There is nothing similar in Rio. Only equivalent place is Mezzaninu in Porto Alegre but there, they do not clean the glasses and the boys have to throw water to clear the fog and droplets deposited on the glasses to show their assets and see who might be interested in them ... In Lagoa they do clean the glasses regularly so you have a clear view of the boys' assets. I was at first disappointed by the quality of the boys. Big dicks : yes ! but cute muscular lads with nice face and great smile : no ! I am normally turned on by the barmen since they are off limits and you can fantazise on them. But none was appealing to me. I am also sometimes interested by some customers : last time in 117 I was turned on by a cute German but of course except translating for him what he wished the boy do to him (which was rather exciting) and happening to be at the same time as him in the sauna, I did not do anything with him. This time I was puzzled by a cute customer, still dressed, obviously waiting for someone, obviously knowing well the boys and well known by them ... since there was no one I liked really and in particular no "branquinho" (white) or moreno claro (light skinned) guys, I must admit that I was somehow fantazising about his tight little ass ... I later realized that he was waiting for the member of this forum I was also waiting for and who introduced to each other. I alse realized that he was also a member of this forum with whom I chatted ... Funny situation. By that time there were many boys. All types including many twinks. Skinny boys sometimes have huge dicks. In this case, there was 3 or 4 branquinhos who would appear normal dickwise in the shower in a gym in Europe but who appeared extremely small compared to the huge dicks on display under the showers. I was wondering whom to take from all the many boys present when my friend invited a boy to join us at the table. I noticed his nice and defined body under the shower but did not spot his cute face and his mesmerizing light green eyes. It was love at first sight. I checked that my friend would not be pissed if I was going with the boy he invited. I was only supposed to help for translation ... He had a gentleman attitude and let me proceed with Thiago. Thiago is 21 with a defined body, some hair on his chest and a lovely caminho da felicidade (happy trail) leading to a thick dick. One of his parent is black, the other blond. He is stunning with his gorgeous face and eyes, his light brown skin, ... I was fearing he might be only top but he said he was ativo liberal which is a saying I do not like much since it is not clear .... some mean that they suck, others mean thzt they are bottom. It needs to be clarified no doubt. I did clarify and I went to the room to have a perfect session with Thiago. Lot of tongue kissing, sucking and a tight little ass. Ending session.with romantic cuddling. Perfect. Worth a repeat ! This Friday, Lagoa was really great ! I guess many boys came for the special bingo game which occured later with potential win of 1000 R$.

one more point I'm often making - talk to the boys directly and by-pass mamasans altogether

A big-dicked mulato bottom twink form Barranquilla and a more euro-Colombian who sucked dick like he thought there might be gold in it.

I went to Soi Twilight last night as I heard about the demise of Soi Twilight. The area is being converted into a big mall. There are only 2000 malls in Bangkok, but they seem to want another one. Lots of the bars and clubs are now boarded up and closed. This weekend is the last weekend for a few others. Many of them are moving to the other side of Suriwong and some near Silom 4 and some near the Patong Night Market. When I first came to Bangkok 17 years ago, I fell in love with this area as there were 10 GoGo bars and 10 beer bars (estimate) on the same little street and all next door to each other. Walk out one door with 100 boys on stage and into another with the same. Paradise! Now, it will be more spread out and a bit of a hike (5 minutes) from one area to another. Some are moving next to each other while others are still trying to find venues. I don't get into this area too often but wanted to go in this weekend to say goodbye to this old friend. This truly was one of the most amazing streets on earth and it will never be replicated anywhere. It is just not possible to do. Now, don't think for one moment that this means the boys are gone. They will still be there, just spread out a bit more and now more than a 5 second walk.