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Why would it feel odd if not only nude pics, but pics of him in simulated gay sex action, fully erect, are out online for all to see (like the Bang-magazine shots)? I have some other nude pics of him, too, even fully erect (together with another guy), they're being circulated in various Line groups, along with gazillions of other sexy pics and clips. Though I doubt many, if any at all, in those groups know who he is, his name and his Moonlight affiliation, simply because they don't know anything about that bar or the gogo bar scene in general because they are mostly Thai-for-Thai groups. Some I even saw in a Singaporean Line group! Maybe I should put some in the model photos thread....

Presumably the ID also shows their date of birth? And if you’re interested in a young man, it’s great to be certain that he is of legal age. I can’t speak to Rio/Brazil but it was definitely a problem in Buenos Aires/Argentina where under-age guys pretend to be legal in order to meet rich men. It happened to me 2x and only by checking their ID first did I keep things ‘above-board’. I was told by an Argentine lawyer that it was a regular scam at Retiro station bathrooms where families used their attractive teenagers to lure adult men into an encounter. The idea was not to earn some small sum of cash but to blackmail the adult men by threatening to report them to the Police.

There's another issue here which no one seems to have picked up on. Thai notes bear the image of the king and any form of disrespect towards that image can be construed as lese majeste. People have been arrested for accidentally stepping on his image and there was one incident where a drunken farang threw his change on the bar floor and stepped on it because he was upset about one thing or other and was sent to prison for it. I know these are extreme cases but it doesn't hurt to be mindful of these things especially in the current political climate.

Oh dear. This is not the first time you've made a scathing, reprehensible and grossly exaggerated generalisation about "most Thais". For someone who claims to be a scientist, your assertions are ironically unscientific and not based on solid empirical evidence that would justify its application on "most Thais". From reading your posts, I gather that your interactions with Thai people have been limited in scope and diversity. You judge the people you meet in terms of how they would fit in your mold of how they should be instead of taking them as they are. You seem to lack empathy for people and their circumstances and are quick to judge them based on some biased, singular yardstick and fail to acknowledge that every individual is made up of many parts with their own gifts and flaws. On Sawatdee Network, you described 95% of the gay Thais you've had contact with as "stupid, lazy, greedy creatures". I've told you this before and I will tell you again: you should ask yourself why you seem to have an inordinate amount of negative encounters with Thai boys when the experiences of others have been quite the opposite. After all, you are the common denominator in these encounters. And lastly, be careful what you wish for - if your average Thai guy turns into your average Singaporean, Hong Konger or Japanese, it's unlikely that he'll give you the time of day.

Last trip two Cambodian long time cases happened to be 'until 5 o'clock' ... which left me puzzled, if there is a kind of Cambodian gathering at 5:30am? No such things with Cambo guys in previous trips... Although as Christian said some 'different sleeping habits' - a guy from BBB just couldnt sleep around 1am being at a gogos boy schedule (not THAT guy @vinapu - that guy is Lao By the way I've got his new Line account, but too late to go to BKK this trip) Another funny case with 5 o'clock and kind of long time (I had asked for a long at the first evening) - next day evening, around 9pm I got a message from the guy "i am free today till 5pm". Which with those two 5am cases, me requesting a long time and actual time being 9pm already - I happily took for 5am Not 'till breakfast' of coz, but not a short time either... Good But it happened to be just 23:00 coz it is Thai style '5 in the evening (18+5=23)'. Pity Although photo I took for him with 'Jomtien beach' sign that evening is still at FB page as a cover photo...

Manhatten Rios after next Monday is going back to being a straight sauna and in turn is taking over the newer facilities of a Straight sauna and that will be gay! Straight saunas are usually smaller in the common areas like the bar show areas then Gay saunas and this was very true with MR! The guy who recently built out a new sauna in Centro saw this and made a proposition that they exchange facilities and go in partnership running a gay and straight sauna! i was just sent a video of the new place and it looks good, although at this point all the walls are white, no decor yet! It appears to be four floors with the suites(all with glass in showers)on the 2nd and 3rd floors, the boys locker rooms on the 4th(maybe 5th i lost count)floor! it is scheduled to open for business next week. I do not have the address but was told it is about 2 blocks from Meo Mundo downtown! Here is a notice that came out today with i guess the new name!

Well after 6 years I’m back in Rio and what a 2 weeks it’s been so far. club 117 remains the best the hottest and the horniest spot on the planet I’ve been there 6 nights a week for 2 weeks and wow just wow. I love that 99% of the guys are as straight as you can be when you have gay sex for a living ! There is muscle there is twink there is Black as the dark of night and blonde as a swede and of course your typical Latino and they are all so lovely. They kiss they suck and some even deep throat, they fuck like their life depends on it and most make you feel ( at the time) they love you. I have found a great guy who will happily get fucked for his pay check and he’s a fit number and he runs off to find other guys that suit my taste and are also up to get fucked and we all take turns at the front back and middle ! Beef sandwiches are my thing. Sundays are relatively quiet, Monday’s closed and Tuesdays wall to wall as there is no charge for cabins so there are more customers which brings MORE BOYS. I’ve been eating my way through 3 a night and one night 4...... they will come and sit and chat for ages and after aren’t in a rush and to run off and are happy to snuggle up for a bit on a sofa. As always agree what they will and won’t do as I had one who said he was versatile and then changed his mind when I told the other guy to fuck him so the other boy got him gone, it was part of the deal so there was no problem. If your main reason to visit Rio is for sex you will find it and every kind of guy in 117 and in abundance ! Don’t be shy ask for what you want and they will let you know if it’s possible, they don’t mind it’s their job. I stay 4 minutes walk away in a reasonable hotel called the Diamaond and you can have visitors for R50 for the night but always be careful who you invite but they do have to register at reception so there is some safety net not that I’ve had a problem. Grindr is also hot but had a let down when a not so hot guy arrived with not such a big cock, must have been using his brothers pictures lol. I have another month in Brazil and I’m exhausted already. happy hunting guys

A friend sent me this photo taken while he walked down a Rio street not long before Carnaval began - Until heavy rains wash away the smell, it must be awful to work or live around that area. Considering the massive crowds, where are the public restrooms during Carnaval? Yuk!

He wants to tear your ass up...you’re the bottom in this scenario!

Floripa was a lot of fun! It’s carnival at the moment, so it was busier than usual. Bar do Deca is the place to be. Beach was crowded and lively. A $100R bracelet gets you into the nightclub, which gets crowded at night after everyone moves from the beach inside. Bracelet also includes $70R towards food/drink. But the best part is the nude beach that’s just beyond Bar do Deca. Tons of gorgeous guys letting it all hang out. At night, in the trails behind Bar do Deca I found tons of action. Lots of cruising!

It’s one thing to know your pictures are being circulated online (widely) but there seems to be a difference dancing right up there on stage while they are being passed around the audience in front of you. But then again I doubt Babe has many inhibitions left

brazilian id is showing date of birth. whenever i have been in doubt, that guy has 18 years, i have asked for id. and it was never a problem. just once with a guy on ipanema beach, who offered himself twice on the same day, but he didn't have id. based on that i have declined a meeting with him. all other boys, who i have asked, had their id available for inspection without any problem. i am not saying that brazilian id can not be counterfeited, but for me this is additional step for security.

This scam is also extremely common in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic — often with actual police involved in the scam. Most reputable tour guides for sex travelers (seeking men or women) dutifully warn upfront about engaging with anyone that even looks close to the age of 18. The slicker scammers will get what could be an innocent photo of the tourist seemingly engaged with the underaged boy or girl (like sitting on his lap on the patio of a restaurant) to bolster their claims. I have also heard of this occurring on beaches popular with tourists / sex tourists. Cuba is also a place where you’d want to check everyone’s ID —- by law everyone must carry one, anyway. It’s so common in Latin and South America that I just assumed that this crime of opportunity is also used in other hot spots there, including but not limited to Brazil. Although I have never witnessed or encountered it, that could be because I have no attraction to anything that looks barely legal and therefore, wouldn’t engage anyway. Nonetheless, it’s probably a good idea to check the ID if there is any doubt whatsoever. Hotels (if you use them) and some apartment building front desks will usually require IDs from visitors, anyway. Side note, and not to scare anyone (ok, maybe just a little): anyone planning on photographing or videotaping anyone in a sex act or with exposed genitalia (which could be loosely defined as “pornography”), by USA law, MUST not only check IDs, but maintain proof of that ID in easily accessible records at all time. The laws could be similarly strict or even stricter in other countries. As soon as you hit US soil with the file of those videos or photos (or you upload them to a US-based site — like Xtube), that law applies. 18 USC 2257. So... have fun, but watch yourselves.

According to various websites, THAI purchased 10 A340s. All were retired between 2012 and 2015. One was sold to the Royal Tai Air Force. The other nine remain stored somewhere! Therefore unsold! Currently it still operates 8 747-400s with an average age of 19.4 years, Whilst that is not 'old' for a 747, their maintenance costs must be higher than they used to be. Anyone who has been on one of those planes will know that they are also in desperate need of refurbishment. Like many of the older 777s, business class has the recliner seats that most airlines got rid of some years ago. If you cannot offer flat beds, you will inevitably suffer lower passenger numbers, especially when THAI's prices are generally higher.

And this malady is not uncommon among non-Thais: “How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take that splinter out of your eye,' when all the while you yourself do not see the beam in your own eye?’ “ I don’t give any credence to political correctness, either. But I don’t think this is a matter of PC attitudes. I believe it’s more a matter of simply being open to not judging Thais—or other SE Asians—by the same scale we might employ at home. Have you been unlucky? It certainly seems possible that your expectations and methods have not met with a hell of a lot of success. You’re entitled to rationalize your experiences in any manner you choose. But you shouldn’t be surprised when others stress very different views.

So much that is wrong with everything you say in this post . The stubbornness not to look at your opinions and wonder if it is you that see RED when the rest of us see Green. You bring up Autism ( self diagnosed) only after you are attacked by myself and others for your statements that actually mimic the Ku Klux Klan. You talk about your 5 years of traveling in Thailand like it makes you an expert. I have been traveling in Thailand for 34 years as well as much of the rest of the world. You go to small towns where of course the education system is likely to be more basic and then base your biased opinions on what you see there . You avoid BKK because the boys you seek for Sex are more expensive and in many cases more likely to see you for the racist that you are. You have no idea about educated Thais because you avoid them like the plague. You are afraid you might meet a Thai who is far smarter then you and more educated and then would not fit in with your opinion of Thai people I believe your home country which I think is Germany has a sad history of Bigotry . Yet I who have travelled extensively in Germany have never thought to attack Germans as lacking in intelligence because they were so easily led by a MadMan. But of course I realize I am wasting my breath trying to argue with you about your opinions of Thai people because you need to feel superior to the people you interact with and in your mind that is easier in the countryside villages of Thailand.

I have never asked to see a Brasilian I.D. in 18 years of going there! Not saying it's a bad idea I just don't know what it proves other then his real name(many Garotos have a sauna name different from their real first name)

hahahaha that's great and almost as expected - they come up with a rule and then nobody cares to implement/enforce it! Thanks for letting us know

yes that's certainly true, and nobody disputes the necessity for doing SOMETHING. And the difference to the Ukraine is, there you COULD still fly over (AYOR), whereas in Pakistan you could not, so not only was it advisable to avoid that risky airspace, it was mandatory. SO that wasn't even a choice decision by Thai, but they had to. However, as you also pointed out, in an emergency a rerouting can certainly be done in-flight, so why they didn't do that remains the mystery of this thread. Maybe they THOUGHT it was economical? Though it is inconceivable to me that say an estimated 10% extra fuel cost is more expensive than taking care of say 300 passengers per plane for DAYS, putting them in Hotels, on other flights, providing food, plus organizational and logistical nightmares for the company. It just doesn't make sense. Seems like an ill-considered (if considered at all LOL) knee jerk reaction of Thai. Oh well. @reader ever so resourceful! Interesting stuff. We should look out for those planes next time one if us flies out of/into DMK (me early April). You're right they probably still sit there waiting for their prices to go down further and further with each passing day....

What the FUCK are you trying to say.... Make it plain man....you need to overuse huge words to make a basic point fucks up EVERYTHING...I mean EVERYTHING you try to say or get across... And don't drag me into this mess...he is reading you and you keep going back for more... Let it go..If you are secure with who you are AND what you do...Why go back and forth with somebody you don't even know...Unless the points he said are true... Bye

Well I am sitting in the airport for the next 2 hours and have nothing to do apart from spam this thread LOL. The first teaser for the Songkran photo shoot is now on the FB page. All 14 models were called in to shoot all day, we will soon be treated to sexy brief shots, fun Songkran pics with water pistols, and a big group photo in Loy Krathong traditional outfits. Mamasan says new model Lucky is very skilled in the bedroom and quietly becoming one of the most popular models.

Two of the new models Smart/Smarch and Dave. Smart participates in the naked towel dance and it is sexy as hell.

On Babe, Moonlight mamasan says his recent travels to Taiwan and Japan were fully paid for by customers not “working vacations” - I thought the Taiwan trip could have been for more Bang magazine photo shoots but that is not the case. The mamasans have Babe’s full nude pictures on their phones which they use to offer him to customers. I wonder if it doesn’t feel odd to him, knowing all the staff (including gay waiters!) have his full frontal pictures to hand which they show off to all and sundry!

I believe the qualifier was “sexual contact”. I tip waiters because they are on low salaries and do not get many offs. I tip a mamasan who has been helpful in obtaining me a seat and service on busy nights, non-pushy (if I am new to bar), or a regular mamasan. Sadly I do not like my regular mamasan in Jupiter so I get annoyed having to tip him! But he ensures I am seated and hosted so I tip moderately for service, same as I would in a restaurant. I do NOT tip other mamasans in bars where I already know one mamasan and it annoys me to no end when customers are short and they start to hover around hoping for more handouts.

Based on what Paul1981 reported and mamasan’s “wink wink nudge nudge” (and I am 100% sure they were singing a very different tune last year, saying only women offs - things appear to have changed in very recent times) I assume he now asks the same as other models, around 4-5K baht? Particularly if it’s just a jerk off session. I’ll reply again in main Moonlight thread as it seems more appropriate to chat about Babe there.

We talking about online escort ads vs. guys on Chaterbate.

Wow! I’ll go to Rio mid April and I can’t wait! It’ll be my first time and I’m pretty exited. I’ve got an Airbnb allocated between Ipanema and Copacabana. Obviously I’m curious about the well praised sauna experience. I’m just worried it is like Barcelona.... There the boys handle you like just another number..:rush rush. Sexy guys, but mediocre sex...Regarding to Rio is read you guys even invite the good ons for extracurricular activities outside the sauna? Interesting. Another thing is I like to cruise or go on Grindr and meet guys. If after meeting them on neutral ground turns out to be positive, I’d like to take them for play. My method in Havana (and sometimes in Colombia) is to ask their ID before take them. Any more thoughts on this issue? Anyway I’m sure I love the big, fit, large cocked Brazilian gorotas!!

Corruption must inevitably have been involved in the purchase of the A340s, as with many other types of aircraft. THAI operated part of that fleet on the non-stop routes to LAX and JFK which THAI eventually suspended. Even so, lots of other airlines purchased it because at the time of its introduction ETOPS was extremely limited for twin engine planes. According to wikipedia 377 models of the aircraft were sold and 60 remain in service. THAI needed a minimum of 4 aircraft on each route because only 4-engine aircraft were authorised to operate most long haul routes, especially over oceans. That they were unprofitable for THAI was only partly a result of fuel burn. THAI simply could not sell enough seats - and it had designated a lot of these seats as business class at premium price. It was unfortunate for Airbus and the airlines that the Extended Range Operation Procedures were changed not many years after its introduction. From that time the ETOPS range for twin engine jets was extended from 1 hour up to 3 hours thus rendering the twin engine A330s, 777s and later the 787s and A350s not just possible but quite a bit cheaper to operate for ultra long hails. By the time THAI wanted to sell its A340s, the price of second hand models had plummeted.

Yes we can talk about cultural, ethnicity, race etc. Bottom line Most Thal's as Christian PFC used the term do not stop learning at the age of 12-15. It is a ridiculous assertion that clearly in my mind is racist. Best dentist I ever had and I've had a few was in Pattaya and all his children were sent to the best Uninversaties in Great Britain. They were lucky !!! Just like some the best Doctors I have experienced were in Bumrungrad in BKK. Unfortunately many, even most of the boys we hire for Sex have not in most cases been lucky enough to attend good schools and Universities . But many in the country have and they represent a cross section of all types of vocations in Thailand. Is it true that the education system in Thailand could be much better . Of course it is , just like the education system in many big cities in the US could be better. Does that mean mental development stops at age 13-15. Of course not ! And I see no other way to interpret it then being racist or just plain thinking that Thai people are stupid. Of course these are the same stupid boys that Christian loves to pay at the bottom of accepted pay scale and probably below when he can get away with it.. I think the overwhelming % of members here respect the Thai People and in many case warm liaisons are made between them and I don't think many members think the boys they pay for sex are stupid . If they do I feel sorry for them.

I just retrieved at my house my little walking guide for 4 churches and the cemetery west of them. SFA and Conc are mislabelled each other by the publication. You can mosey along this area commencing Sé or the intersection Paulista & Concolaçao west of the cemetery which is north side of Conc. You may have already discovered all this. Tap the image to enlarge. It is blurrier at the top which is less relevant.

Talking of filters, I don't use any. Some people do not have stats (age, weight, height would be important for me), or obviously wrong stats, and anyway it's entertaining to see who is around, even if not my specs. The video apps on hornet are indeed stupid. They advertise for facebook! I think mankind is split in: those who are already on facebook, those who do not want to be on facebook.

That is not remotely the person you were talking about. Where on earth did you source — and verify — those absurd images?

OH you guys!! The foods in the Philippines are excellent!! Of course you must try the lechon baboy (roasted pork) and the plentiful seafoods (shrimp, crab, lapu-lapu). I do not do the Street Foods there. It is not at all like Thailand. But fly to Cebu City and go to Ayala Mall. Many great local restaurants to enjoy. And never got food poisoning. HAHAHA INGAT!!

I began posting about Nakarat sometime in late 2017, I believe. And today I’m posting about my experience there this week. For those new to the shop, it’s easy to find at the entrance to silom soi 4. The shop itself is on third floor above restaurant but you’ll find most of the guys (many from VN) on Silom and perhaps a few more around the corner on 4. The rooms are adequate with tables but only one has and en-suite shower. There are two small showers down the hall with soap, shampoo and hw. There are some separate, very cramped rooms for Thai massage with mats on floor (these are not well suited for anything else). One hour oil is 450, 90 min. 600. Most guys will begin by automatically asking 2k. I counter with 1.3 (this is what I usually pay in Silom for one hour). I did so again this time and it was agreed to. When he leaned in against my hand, the massage took the usual course to a satisfactory conclusion for both parties. Have lost count of how many times I’ve used Nakarat but I’m sure it’s in double figures. I appreciate the selection and convenience of the location. There’s been, I estimate, a 20-25% turnover since my last visit.

I never had to pay a fee when a garoto stayed over. However, I do not have another registered guest (your partner) with me in the room. If you have a separate room from your partner, you will not be charged for a visitor to your room or to the lounge. Since I don't know your set up at the hotel, it is difficult to answer. Clearly, if you have your own room, you will not be charged for a visitor to spend the night and/or if the guest accompanies you to the lounge. On the other hand, if you share a room with your partner, it is likely a third person visitor will be noticed as you enter the hotel. The lounge is fairly large with several divided sections. It is unlikely you will have a problem gaining access to the lounge as it is accessed via your room key. Besides, you are entitled to a guest in the lounge. The rules, as they are written, are ambiguous. The fact that you had to pay a fee at a different hotel has no bearing on the hotel in Sao Paulo. Look at the Marriott rules (and whether you have your own room) as they now control most of their hotels. To be on the safe side, since you are allowed one guest (as a Platinum member) it might be better for you to enter with the visitor and then have your partner use his key to enter a minute or so later. This is only to avoid possible embarrassment assuming your partner does not have his own separate room.

Make sure that Google Translate will work offline on your phone before you travel and need to rely on it. For some strange reason, it won't work offline on my good android phone, but work offline on my cheaper android phone. Just a heads up. If anybody knows why it might not work on my good phone, please let me know!

I don't have the same tomcal's enthusiasm about the new Manhattan bar (not calling sauna...read below), and here's why: While the facility appears to be good, and some good effort has been invested, it does suffer of some HUGE design flaws. The bar (and cruising) area is extremely small and dark, I'd say that it has the 25% of capacity that 117 and 202 have (combining the 2 bars). It's good but small. People who are social smokers like me, will not like this new "sauna". THERE'S NO OPEN SMOKING AREA. If you wanna smoke, there's a small transparent booth inside the bar, which can host just 3 people at the same time. It's never going to work...IMHO. The rooms, might be 16 and with brand new air conditioning units, but what's the point? They're considerably smaller than 202 ones, and there's no separated (but still ensuite) bathroom like in 202 and 117 and i might be wrong, but there's also no WC. Just a shower. This is not a huge problem for me, and i'm not sure if it's the same for all the rooms. Did i tell you that there's no sauna at all right now? The wall facility is hosted inside a 4 floors building: ground entrance, 1st (bar and reception), 2nd (suites), 3rd (offices , customers common showers and lockers). I really hope for you that you don't have problems with legs, cause it's a steep climb to reach the top floor. It's just unfinished, and really needs a good adv campaign. If it wasn't for tomcal's original post, i would have been unaware of its existence until the Friday it opened, the only day i know for sure it was full of customers and boys. Every single other friend who's been there in the following days described the situation as "uma mierda". (Not counting tomcal's last Friday's experience).

the rooms are the best part(it seems to be where i spend 95% of my time)they are 16 all new, w/Double mattress’ on a platform , all with All glass enclosed showers in each one, plus Client bathrooms on eac floor! very clean! Oz, 4 twinks showed up Monday night who had never worked in a Sauna before , 2 were very cute!

this friday there were 14 escorts and about a dozen clients. i think it will take a few months to build up to old.MM standards of attendance. it has only been open one week.

the new sauna is the dark broun building on the right,

I can't recommend preparing with Chaterbate guys enough. You see them live and in action as you message them for contacts. So many are in Medellin. Unlike Bogota, Medellin is much harder to find good-looking available guys once there (except Club Tobi). For Medellin you really need a contact or two beforehand to network from and as soon as you arrive you need to network from the masseurs at Club Tobi. I wouldn't trust any of the online photo date sites or the photos listed as "Prepaygo" on Grindr.

Sorry to say, but much probably fake , there are very few blond blue eyes in Colombia, and the room that he is at doesn’t look like a typical Colombian bedroom at all (like the curtains , etc) Mileroticos has many fake pictures, I called one guy from Mileroticos and he came to my hotel in Bogotá, the guy was completely different from the pictures, but still hot... so I acepted. If you are keen on surprises (good or bad) give it a try

It does. And it even knows a few of the places I'm going, so I can type in the name rather than the address. It leaves me a bit torn. Uber as a company has done some seriously crummy things and I don't use them in the US. But I'm finding them super useful on this global trip I'm on...

Knowing the exchange so you know what you are paying in your own currency... I get it money aint a thing...

Uber is basic and works the same way it does in the US...the only thing you need to make sure of is the exchange rate....Uber is also cheaper in Brazil than in the US...

Install Uber while you are here. It works in English, and does not switch language when you arrive there. and you don’t even need to speak to your driver. Setup a credit card on it so that you never have to take out any cash in a car. In Rio, meter-taxis are also everywhere, very easy to flag. But you need to speak to them in Portuguese to give them your address and to pay. i am really not sure what you mean by accessing your contacts! Anyway, it is Uber, an international company with operations in 40+ countries. If they were to start misusing people’s contact it would be a huge scandal that would seriously harm their business. Install it, and try again (you can see the drivers around your location without booking a ride).

I am in Colombia now and having a great time. I have met several working guys off Grindr that were super nice and incredibly hot. The guy I met tonight in Medellin was 12/10 if there is such a thing! Super sweet with model looks and body. We went out for a drink after as he wanted to practice his English. It's hard not to fall in love! I had planned to do research on Chaturbate before my trip but ran out of time. So far Grindr has worked fine for me with plenty of offers of free sex as well.

suspenders, $9.50 at Walmart :-)