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Am I the only one or is that starting to seem a bit stalker-ish?

Visited this shop a few days ago and found that it matched DM’s description in all respects. There were three guy-next-door types sitting on a bench when I arrived about 5. All smiled and one stood to greet me and led me down sub-soi to shop. Chose one hour oil (450) and taken to room on first floor with table. It was clean as was the shower down the hall which had ample soap and hw. All facilities appear to be on first floor. Soft mood music in background. My guy (mid-20’s from Isan) had a little English and asked usual questions. His technique was smooth with moderate pressure. He respected my request for nit noy oil. When I began to notice his growing interest in the proceedings, we reversed roles and I became the masseur. (Vinapu, I believe, is one of the few other members who fully appreciates this maneuver). I offered 1200 and it was gladly accepted. When I left about 6, there were 2 new faces on the bench, either of whom would give me cause to return. This is a neighborhood shop located in an accessible (to Silom) area were westerners are not uncommon. I spotted a handful of other massage shops on both sides of street (including a branch of Art Massage so we’ll represented on Surawong). A tip of the cap to DM for taking the effort to bring this to our arrention.

Well after 6 years I’m back in Rio and what a 2 weeks it’s been so far. club 117 remains the best the hottest and the horniest spot on the planet I’ve been there 6 nights a week for 2 weeks and wow just wow. I love that 99% of the guys are as straight as you can be when you have gay sex for a living ! There is muscle there is twink there is Black as the dark of night and blonde as a swede and of course your typical Latino and they are all so lovely. They kiss they suck and some even deep throat, they fuck like their life depends on it and most make you feel ( at the time) they love you. I have found a great guy who will happily get fucked for his pay check and he’s a fit number and he runs off to find other guys that suit my taste and are also up to get fucked and we all take turns at the front back and middle ! Beef sandwiches are my thing. Sundays are relatively quiet, Monday’s closed and Tuesdays wall to wall as there is no charge for cabins so there are more customers which brings MORE BOYS. I’ve been eating my way through 3 a night and one night 4...... they will come and sit and chat for ages and after aren’t in a rush and to run off and are happy to snuggle up for a bit on a sofa. As always agree what they will and won’t do as I had one who said he was versatile and then changed his mind when I told the other guy to fuck him so the other boy got him gone, it was part of the deal so there was no problem. If your main reason to visit Rio is for sex you will find it and every kind of guy in 117 and in abundance ! Don’t be shy ask for what you want and they will let you know if it’s possible, they don’t mind it’s their job. I stay 4 minutes walk away in a reasonable hotel called the Diamaond and you can have visitors for R50 for the night but always be careful who you invite but they do have to register at reception so there is some safety net not that I’ve had a problem. Grindr is also hot but had a let down when a not so hot guy arrived with not such a big cock, must have been using his brothers pictures lol. I have another month in Brazil and I’m exhausted already. happy hunting guys

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Hi all! So I went to Bangkok back in 2016 and I was always meaning to write up a trip report but just never got around to doing it. So I thought I would do it now whilst I have some spare time, plus am returning to Thailand in the next couple of months. Better late than never I guess. A bit of background, (was) 32 years old, Filipino/Australian heritage. Shy, small in stature, and look a bit younger than I am (thank you good Asian genes), and it was my first time to Thailand. It doesn't contain heaps of sex stuff, so apologies, but here goes: Day 0 Flew from my home city to Singapore, where I had an overnight stopover. Invited a 'massage' friend to spend the night with me. I met this guy when I was last in Singapore a couple of months before my Thailand trip, and we got along quite well. Last trip I booked him for an hour and he stayed for like 3 hours and even bought me McDonalds afterwards. Anyway it was good to see him again. Day 1 Since I was staying at one of the airport hotels, I caught the skytrain to the terminal that I needed to be at, my friend saw me off, and I eventually boarded the plane. Landed at Suvarnabhumi Airport and was expecting huge queues and chaos in immigration, but it turned out that there was hardly anyone there. I was out within a few minutes. Good time of the day to land I guess. Waiting for my luggage took ages, but once I got my luggage I went and changed some AUD into THB and went to get a tourist sim from DTAC. Found the taxi stand, showed him where I was staying on my phone but I don't think he quite understood but we got there in the end. The driver's English was limited but he did attempt to make some conversation including "many lady company" and "bang bang". Oh if only he knew. Arrived at my hotel (Hotel Muse on Soi Langsuan) checked in (there wasn't a check-in counter, but there were all separate desks to check in which I thought was a nice touch). Whilst checking in they brought over a sample of 4 different (alcoholic) drinks). My room wasn't ready yet since I arrived before check-in time so I went and sat in the bar and had some Singha. Shortly after, one of the hotel attendants took me to my room (it was huge!) and carried my suitcase (never had that happen to me before!) and I slept for a while as I was exhausted. Upon waking, I went for a walk to find dinner, couldn't decide on anything so returned back to my hotel and got room service. Day 2 A few weeks before my trip I had organised a travel companion for two of the days I was in Bangkok. Just found his website randomly on google. We had a big day planned, so he met me in the Lobby in the morning and the first stop was to a tailors (State Tailors) because I wanted to buy a suit or 2 whilst I was there. I had a look through some magazines to see what styles I liked, and chose some fabrics, and the tailor told me a price for the 2 suits (includes 2 pants, 2 jackets and 2 shirts) which was a little too much more than I could afford. I told him that I could only afford 1 suit. So he crunched some numbers and got me a price of 14500 baht for the 2 suits. I then had a think, and thought that if I had 2 suits made for me in Australia, the price would be in the thousands. So I accepted, since it would be a worthwhile investment. I got measured, paid my deposit then off we went. We walked to Sathorn Pier and took the boat to Wat Po and the Grand Palace (beautiful but so busy). Afterwards, took a tuk tuk (hated it) to Phanfa bridge and took another boat to Jim Thompson's house. I went on the tour and it was really quite an interesting story. Afterwards, I took the skytrain back to my hotel for a rest. My guide then met me again later and we went into Soi Twilight (my first time!), had dinner at Maxi's first, then went into x-boys (I think), and just sat and had a drink. There was this guy, number 19, who kept smiling at me but I didn't call him down. We then went to dreamboys to see the show, and wow. Having never experienced something like this in my life, it was amazing. Didn't off anyone that night as I was too tired. Day 3 I had today on my own, so my first stop was to a clinic where I had a consultation about a cosmetic procedure I want done, then I went back to the tailors to try on the (unfinished) suit, and made some adjustments, then found my way to Arena. My heart was beating quite fast because I was nervous! Anyway, I went in and the guy at the counter didn't say much. He didn't really explain anything, just sat with me while I chose. It took me a little while, but there was this one guy who was smiling at me and was cute. His name was Art (I think) and he was my age. Went upstairs, had a shower together and he started massaging me. After a little while he said "I fuck you?" and I was like "okay, but be gentle" so he put a condom and lube on and started to put it in, but I don't have anal all that often so it kinda hurt a bit so we didn't do it for very long. We just sucked and jerked each other off for a while. It was satisfying, but nothing earth shattering. The shower decided to not work afterwards, so I had to go without. I tipped him 1500 because he was a genuinly nice guy, wasn't cold, and kept saying that I was lovely. Whether he says that to all of his customers, I don't care, it made me feel good! After that I went back to the hotel (was proud of myself for navigating the BTS all day), and went to Siam Paragon later on to browse. My favourite was the floor with all of the luxury cars - how do they even get them there?? Day 4 Today started good but ended bad. Another big day was planned, so I met with my guide and drove to the Rom Hoop Market and watched the train go past which was kinda cool, then afterwards went to the Damnoen Saduak Floating Market, which again was pretty cool. Bought a fake LV bag on the way out for 1000 baht, no idea why. It was too expensive, and I never even used it! We then drove back into the city and had lunch at a restaurant in Silom (I forget the name now). Had pad Thai and some sort of mango shake. After that I went back to my hotel for a rest, and the plan was later on we would visit Babylon, have dinner at Asiatique, and then visit Soi Twilight again. What happened was (too much information ahead, I apologise) I had a nap, and upon waking my stomach was feeling a little off so I messaged my guide and postponed to meet by an hour, in the meantime I was stuck on the toilet pissing out of my ass, my guide ended up coming to the hotel and I met him in the lobby where he gave me some medicine, went back to my room, proceeded to vomit, which smelt like my pad Thai lunch, and at one point I was feeling really faint and ended up passing out. I woke up a little while later laying down next to the toilet with a bruise on my head (must had hit my head on the toilet on the way down). It was kinda scary. I don't know what caused the food poisoning, but I figure it may have been from my lunch (pad Thai, might have been from the prawns, or the mango shake may have been made with ice that was from tap water). I was kinda annoyed but the worst was over and I slept on and off that night. Day 5 I didn't want to go out today as I still felt a bit ill, but I needed to pick up my suit, so I had one of the hotel staff hail a taxi for me, I went to the tailors, tried my suits on (they were absolutely perfect, worth all the money I paid for them), paid the balance, the guy even chucked in a free tie. Afterwards, I hailed a taxi all my myself (was proud of myself) and spend the rest of the day in my hotel room feeling sorry for myself as this was not what I wanted to do on my holiday! Day 6 Still wasn't feeling 100% better, but decided to venture out for a while today. I ended up going to the Chatuchak market which was huge, and bought a few nice shirts. I was feeling still a bit weak so I just went back to the hotel. Day 7 My last day. I was feeling slightly better today so I went out to Siam Paragon and was craving some western food. Normally if I am in a foreign country I don't eat the western food, because I can just get it back home, but today I had a burger and fries and it was amazing. After browsing for a bit, I ventured out to Baantewa, getting a little lost in the process. I chose a small, but strong guy named Dan, and the massage started pretty normally and then got heated, he was a really good kisser, and then he said those magic words, "I fuck you now?" and I was a little apprehensive because I was still not feeling quite right, but I relented and was glad I did because it was actually really good lol. He called me sexy and kept saying "I like you" and again, I don't care if he says that to all of his customers, it made me feel good. Tipped him 2000 baht and was on my way. Later that night, I had dinner at the hotel's rooftop bar and it was nice just looking out at the view. Day 8 Back to Australia today. I'm a bit of a stress-head when going to airports so I feel the need to get there quite early. I figured traffic would be a nightmare, but then ended up getting to the airport 4 hours early. A little too early. But anyway, the rest of the trip was uneventful, made my connection in Singapore on the way back to my home city. Afterthoughts: Would I say that this trip was a success? Yes and no. The whole food poisoning thing was a bit of a downer and took time away from my plans, and I didn't off any guys really. Had a couple of massages which were nice, but there wasn't much action on Grindr either. I dunno? Maybe I didn't put myself out there enough, I'm quite a shy person normally. But I'm glad I went. I got to experience things that don't normally happen in my home city. And the Thai people are really nice people. I had random people speaking to me in Thai on a few occasions - do I look Thai? haha. Anyway I'll be going back to Thailand in a couple of months, this time staying in Pattaya (also going to Cambodia, Phuket and Phillipines) so I'm going to do it right this time! Thanks for reading

Hot Male is a go go...up a flight of stairs, boys on stage or seated to the audience left of stage. Two or three mamasans usually present. I’ve found them helpful. Usually two shows a night. The later show usually had some hard core stuff...that show brings in anumber of women. Hot Male has the same ownership as Moonlight. I’ve had several offs from HM...most provided a good time.

I was there in October last year. Its my favourite. The boys are bigger and older than those is fresh boys, classic etc. my tip is to get there early, say 9 to 9:30, sit at the seats along the wall right in front if the stage. While there are a few guys on stage the others sit along this wall and its a great opportunity to check out the guys, chat and watch.

I think you might find that the bars don't make a lot of money on the off fee/bar fine. Some time ago I posted about the Moonlight ad I came across looking for models. I forget the specifics, but I think they paid around 1,500 a night?? I am pretty sure it roughly matches the high off fee for the models. If the model shows up for work, the bar pays him, whether he's off'd or not. Put another way, if a guy gets off'd they still pay him. If you look at it from a model's perspective, he's done the show, chatted with some customers, "worked the room" for a while, all the benefit of the bar, so of course he should still get paid by the bar, and whatever tip he gets later from the customer is just for the time with the customer. Clearly if customers stay away because he's not performing and/or customers aren't buying as many drinks as they might if he was there, then that would hurt the bar's business. As is always the case, I am like wrong on this. Some of the more committed stalkers might be able to confirm or deny. The bars make their real money on the drinks. Not on off fees.

I believe that was the case. Let’s see if this suspension is really enforced or is just a disciplinary threat (and to appease customer)

Isnt it weird system to suspend the guy from work when the only way he can repay the bar from the compensation the bae had to make is for him to work. On the other hand, if he is driving under influence, then its definitely an offence that deserve such punishment, especially if police is involved. Sorry for his misfortune as well and hope he will learn to be more responsible driver after this.

Haha! Reminds me of the old Tonight Show with Jack Paar, where they had a translation chain through 5 people and languages. The end result was always hilarious!

For Adam Smith Cohen: "I fear there will never be a peaceful transition of power if Trump loses the election in 2020." A curious observation... I believe that we are where you predicted we would be back in 2017....

Was it the last night? He went out with a gay guy and a woman. yes Arm goes out partying every night with or without customer unless he is sick.

But does not "comer" mean 'to eat'? I think the ad means he'll toss your salad then pound your arse. Otherwise, foder not comer. The only redundancy I want is repeat, repeat, repeat ... Anyway your points are well taken. Your translation certainly gets the gist. But when you run it thru again and back, he implicitly has the executioner's hood. Now that level of fantasy got me real excited! I think it's typical to ejaculate when dropped thru the gallows. But of course all in good fun with a safe word.

So just an update, the guy who has the whore House in the country his name is Narsisco not franchisco but Fansisco, Manny or Freddy will know what you are talking about either way.

My friend was at RCA and guess who showed up there - Arm! He spent quite alot of time at their table so my friend thinks it was his night off rather than with a customer. Apparently Arm is lots of fun even outside Jupiter. He enjoys drinking and flirting with both men and women.

Apparently Nicky has been suspended from work. Around 1 month. He smashed his car into another car with a customer on board, and the customer went back to Moonlight for compensation.

In USA I only use Uberx (UberXL when I have a lot of stuff going to the airport)....but in Brasil, many times the UberBlack was the same price or just a little more than UberX.....much nicer car and it surely impresses who ever is with me ,lol

I began posting about Nakarat sometime in late 2017, I believe. And today I’m posting about my experience there this week. For those new to the shop, it’s easy to find at the entrance to silom soi 4. The shop itself is on third floor above restaurant but you’ll find most of the guys (many from VN) on Silom and perhaps a few more around the corner on 4. The rooms are adequate with tables but only one has and en-suite shower. There are two small showers down the hall with soap, shampoo and hw. There are some separate, very cramped rooms for Thai massage with mats on floor (these are not well suited for anything else). One hour oil is 450, 90 min. 600. Most guys will begin by automatically asking 2k. I counter with 1.3 (this is what I usually pay in Silom for one hour). I did so again this time and it was agreed to. When he leaned in against my hand, the massage took the usual course to a satisfactory conclusion for both parties. Have lost count of how many times I’ve used Nakarat but I’m sure it’s in double figures. I appreciate the selection and convenience of the location. There’s been, I estimate, a 20-25% turnover since my last visit.

generally speaking most of bars and massage shops in LOS seem to have their websites neglected and updated irregularly so my advice will be not to built any expectations on what we see and read on those. Word of mouth is much better source

A few months ago I took a few shots of some of the Masters at MASP, top floor. Here is a sample cluster. The works are arranged on stands surrounded by a perimeter of windows and natural light, rather than the traditional placement on gallery walls. It is easy to view there, and taking a shot does not disrupt other patrons' enjoyment. Kkkkk ... I did actually gaze extensively, not just blast thru with the shutter in front of my face. Somehow I mistakenly got trapped in a separate queue of locals on a Sunday morn who got in free and in priority time when doors opened. The images are not crisp because I grouped them for this post. Tap the cluster to sharpen the focus.

I've been to Tawan March last year but I don't think the boys there mostly are ready for competition, though they are really bulky, bodybuilder type boys, but they've got the most explicit show ever, which will make you breathless.

I guess that you are "lucky" to not be in a Girl Scout situation. Best regards. RA1

I guess that the guys barely discussing the punters must be a BKK thing I know that BenG1000 is not going to Pattaya (this trip)...But for sure in Pattaya every boy in the bar will know exactly what you did in bed, how big your cock is, how much you paid, where your hotel is and if you have any peculiarities within 30 mins of the boy leaving your room!

Adding a bit to Divine Madman's excellent answer about boys talking about their experiences/clients etc...some time ago, I had my frequent off Van staying with me at the Raya. I went out on my own one night, at Screwboys I off'd a guy and we used the hotel overhead. When we were finished and showering, the off said he knew me, since he was from Screwboys, I assumed he knew of me from one of his co-workers. Two days later, I was at the Raya, when Van returned and told me he had brought me a gift. Turns out it was my Screwboys off. He knew of me from Van because they shared a room... So yes, they do talk about us...but as DivineMadman puts it "regular" customers get talked about

Hi @ppappi22 some hints: Safety in São Paulo- the Paulista avenue region, Pinheiros, Vila Madalena and Itaim are the more touristic and safer regions. General advice is to avoid wearing expensive jewelry. Rua dos Pinheiros has a ton of restaurants and Vila Madalena has lots of bars. The most famous museum is MASP in Paulista Avenue. Saunas are basically Lagoa, Fragata and Rainbow. Massage places: Inhouse and Gold Therapy. Download WhatsApp to communicate with Brazilians. It is the best way to reach us.

I use DK Eyewitness travel guides, hardcover. Much cheaper formats of those publications available iBooks or Kindle. The Brazil version would cover SP and Floripa, as well as RJ for future. The RJ Top10 version is unnecessary if you spring for the country guide. I described a walking itinerary for SP in the thread 'SP in dribs and drabs' here, Sept 2018?

Extension of validity varies greatly from one provider to the other. Maximum validity for AIS is 365 days. Registering your number does not help. I did so in 2012 (?) hoping that would keep the number to my name, but the time I came to Thailand for holiday, it was beyond validity and I couldn't get the number back. Between AIS, you can transfer validity or balance for a small fee. @ChristianPFC is using these machines (I never have) and can advise more These machines do indeed come with or without service fee, as high as 5 THB for 100 THB top-op, i.e. you have to insert 105 THB. There is an interesting problem related to expiration of SIM-cards. I have saved someone's number, his validity expires, the number is assigned to a new SIM-card and bought by a new person. The network detects activity, and LINE adds this person. I message him/her, hoping to find a long-lost friend. Usually it's pretty quick to figure out it's not the person I'm looking for, but once I ended up with a Thai woman who insisted she loves me and wanted to marry me, and when I told her that's impossible because I'm gay, she wanted to borrow 20,000 THB.

then go and let us know what you saw in Tawan

Off topic, but I'm old. When I lived in NYC, I loved the guys from Stella's Bar. They were typically Latino hustlers and often a bit rough. My favorite was this Puerto Rican who looked like a younger Ricky Martin. He was sexy and fun. But, we both lived so far away from that part of town that we had to get a room to have sex and often picked a cheap 20 USD short time room. His ass was just as sweet but the old condoms in the garbage and the unclean sheets made me feel sleazy. Not sleazy enough to not see him again multiple times in the same place. But, he also didn't say that I was so cheap that I got a discount. Normally, guys don't give a fuck where they fuck as long as they get paid.

I'ld be interested in reports of your recent visits, because there have been several reports that it was no longer a "full service" massage shop. As to your incredulity - in the tiresome wordy bits of the blog I think I made it clear that it's my list with my choices. I even specifically called out why I didn't put Banana Club on the list. In the section titled "Deliberate Omissions" -- did you check there, by the way?? -- I wrote: Banana Club (Asoke) has a lot of fans, but there have been too many reports of theft. I recommend it for foot massages at the ground floor level, but there should never be any reports of theft. Plus I don’t like the common shower/changing area and found the selection not so great last couple of times I went there. But as I said, it has its fans. Fine with me if you disagree. De Gustibus and all that. At least I gave you the chance to experience the incredible. That's nice, isn't it? I think there's a line from Alice in Wonderland about six impossible things before breakfast. So you're one-sixth of the way there today. Please do give us a report of your recent visit, because that would be the best thing of all, and it would correct all those statements out there that it's closed for funny business. And of course the graciousness of your post is most touching.

I have never paid 800 baht tips before. I give 1,000 baht (minimum at Arena), 1,200 baht, 1,500 baht or 2,000 baht (at Baan Tewa - my absolute favourite for all round service) Definitely will ask massage guy to remove his briefs when I go for massage at AEC.

# me too I'm using exactly the same scale you do , 1000 / hr , 1500/ 1.50 hr unless minimum tip is indicated higher ( Senso has 1200 / hr if I recall ). If guy made me smiling I may add few more red notes, why not ? Definitely good idea if I'm planning to use his abuse in the future- then that smile I'm looking for will be rather guaranteed

As far as tipping is concerned. For 90 minutes I usually tip 1,500 or 2,000 if there's been penetrative sex, a meaning blow job or the combo of massage/HJ is star quality. At one hour the starting point would be 1,000. There are certainly cheaper shops, but the places I go even in some of the farther out neighborhoods 1,000/hour "Hard" massage tip is common. Beyond that I am incapable of slicing and dicing like some people. "This was an 800 baht experience" "This was an 1,100 baht blow job." I just can't do that. So I have a budget and a simple this-is-what-I-pay rule and then I can turn off my brain and enjoy the experience.

I mean it isn’t like you are planning for your girlfriend to bareback with them right? Wear a condom, get on Prep for extra protection. I doubt the guys on Tindr are that much cleaner than the average garoto. A lot of guys on here have been with lots of sauna guys and never gotten anything. Please let us know how you adventure goes..

The guy has a sexy body but really (for me anyway) beauty is about the face. Obviously for privacy reasons Pylonguy can’t post that...there is no use in arguing about how attractive someone is without seeing their face (nice cock adds points too lol)

1. I never said I don't pay. This is an escort forum, and I've hired plenty of times. Mainly for the thrill and convenience. And I've also dated or hooked up with other hot guys IRL without financial compensation. Any escort could tell you that they have a surprisingly decent amount of good looking guys hiring them. We all have our reasons and it's a pity that we can't just respect this and call people like me, who anyone could see from my many comments and some posts since 2014 have only shared on here with the best intentions, a liar or fraud. 2. Obviously. That's how the escorting world works. But I didn't give that guy a cent. He has a successful corporate job and has a very successful modeling career on top of it. He paid his own way throughout the relationship. 3. I doubt you'd be saying that if you saw him from the front. I deliberately chose that pic where he looks leaner than he is (he's jacked) because he is very, very well known and would be very unhappy to know that pic was published online. But I'm sure he ain't reading this forum so...

Hahahahahaha, I actually laughed out loud reading this. I generally resist feeding trolls, but dude you're just too irresistible. God forbid a 35 year old white guy could be good looking enough to attract how guys in another country without having to pay. Dude, I spent the last 12 months dating and traveling the world with a 25 year old very well known male model. "BULLSHIT!!!!!!" I hear you screaming from the rooftops. Well you'll never know, unless you had my or his Instagram. Like that's going to happen! Although I am happy to share a (face covered) nude snap from a recent vacation together with the board. And if by remembering the "good old days", you mean the vibrant sex/dating life I've always had and still have, I guess you're right. I do enjoy thinking about the stunning men I actually have dated/fucked/enjoyed friendships with over the past 25 years. The fact you choose not to believe stories that are 100% true is your choice. And I know nothing I'd say would change that. But it sure is fascinating to encounter someone so bitter that they spend their time attacking someone they don't (and won't ever) know who shows up here with only good intentions. I have developed a few friendships with trusted, sane posters on this forum. We've gotten to know each other, privately shared photos and stories about guys we're hooking up with or dating. Attitudes like yours are self-isolating. I'm not responding to anything else from you, but please feel free to keep slinging shit since it appears to make you happy.

...was at Carnaval in the mid 2000's. ...liked Rio and its surrounding areas afterwards because the prices for lodging, I remember, were drastically decreased. ...weather great as well, but today one can't count on steady weather patterns during these drastic climate changes.

Last thing in the world I want to be is a defender of mamasans, but do note that they pay the guys who work there. The bar's net on the bar fine is not a lot. Example at X-Boys might be let's say a 500 bar fine (off fee) minus the 300 they are paying the guy you off'd = 200.. You bought a drink/paid your cover charge of 350. That's not enough to pay for the bar, the show and all those hungry mamasans and waiters. (Don't forget, there are some people who don't tip the waiters.). The bars make their money on the drinks. drinks drinks drinks X-Size at one point had a fairly sensible rule. The bar fine was, I forget exactly, let's say 400 regular or 550 if you didn't buy the guy a drink. Maybe a trasnparent rule like that would make more sense. And having said all that, i and many others have off'd guys by just walking in (or to the door) and picking up a regular and paying only the bar fine. I think it depends on the bar, mamasan, how business is, are you a regular,or not, blah blah. Certainly your experience at X-Boys confirms why many of the guys hate the mamasans and left. The mamasans put the bar's short-term needs first.

I'm honestly so surprised (of course I shouldn't be given how other genuinely interesting specific topics in these forums are overtaken by bitterness and petty arguments from the same posters). Badboy, you ask me questions, I go to the trouble to give you honest and thoughtful answers then you respond with shit like that meme. It's been said many times before, but these forums could be an amazing source of shared info were it not for the constant trolling. I wish there was more careful moderation on here and that the back and forth sniping and hate was removed so that we could stick to the topics asked about or shared. I would post far more in that environment.

I will definitely be more careful this time round and stick to beer and bottled water I think! Yes it was unfortunate but you live and you learn. I am looking forward to my first time in Pattaya and will definitely hit up the bars and massage places in Boyztown! I found a few notes which I wrote whilst I was there, so that definitely helped :P Hoping my next trip will be more successful! Thanks for the suggestion - will definitely look into it. Yeah for me the worst of it was over in a day or so, but it took a bit longer before I started feeling better. I'll be more careful in future. Muse Hotel was great, loved the general theme of the hotel but didn't manage to eat at the steak house. I'll include a photo below. But it's funny, I've been to the Philippines a few times in the past and have never gotten food poisoning there!

Damn. Does anyone know when the month suspension started? I was hoping to see him when I am there in 2 weeks...

I feel sorry for his misfortune