Leaderboard

My unsolicited advice. First day have nice full service massage to get your rocks off, I mean take the edge off, in the late afternoon. Now that that's over with, relax. Later grab a bite soi 4 or Maxi's. On Soi 4, Telephone or Balcony will be a better choice than the German restaurant. My own advice would be mindful not to drink too much. The advantage of Maxi's on Soi Twilight is you could get there and chill and watch better-than-Netflix as the guys show up for work, the bars open up, the massage guys at Bangkok and Bonny are hanging out, a food vendor or two pushes the cart by, you see lots of other vistors old and young, etc. After 9:15 pick a bar that maybe isn't top on your list and tell yourself and anyone who asks that you are not looking for an off, just a visit. The bars may sort of open at 8:00, but not really, and some guys don't even have to show up for work until 9:00. Only newbies or guys picking up regulars go to gogo bars early. Let this first bar by design be your no pressure gateway experience. DO NOT OFF ANYONE NO MATTER HOW CUTE. The purpose of this particular visit is just to lose you newbie status. Have a drink. See the guys on stage trying to get your attention. Practice the eye contact-smile-but-no-promises game. Practice your ignoring-the-mamasan skills by politely shaking your head and saying no to whatever they ask. Finish your drink. Now you get to say "check bin, kap." Pay for your drink and leave at least 20 baht for the deserving waiter. No need to tip anyone else. If you think there is someone you made delicious eye contact with and you want to make an impression, hand him the 50-100. After this you are legit longer a newbie. You are now an experienced veteran. You now know as much as anyone else. You can go into any bar with confidence. You can even start giving people unsolicited advice on what to do. Next bar you can have a guy sit with you but now as a vet you don't feel any pressure to off him just because he has the softest most beautiful skin you have ever seen in your life. Or maybe you will. You're in charge. You're a pro. And after having visited another top-of-your-list bar or two you think the love of your moment is back at bar, you can always go back or on another day. DO NOT BECOME A VICTIM OF FOMO. That's my advice. With one caveat. You could also do exactly the opposite. It's all supposed to be fun.

Not to wade into this argument, but I’d like to point out that I’ve stayed in both price brackets and there is a difference, mainly to do with my own comfort, ease of mind and getting myself into a well deserved “holiday” mood. I didn’t take colmx’s post as judgmental and can fully see his perspective. But my preference has always been towards the nicer hotels. Why? I make a decent salary, really value my hard earned short visits to Bangkok (which give me a much needed mental and physical break) and don’t want to deal with the hassle of any hotel malfunctions which might put any of my 2 or 3 or 4 days out of kilter. These visits are usually sandwiched in between intense work periods and I NEED that little oasis of peace and enjoyment so as not to go stir crazy. If I was on a two or three week Bangkok trip where my only focus was boys, I would obviously opt for something more economical but I’ve simply never had the luxury of staying that long. I’ve often thought that I over spend on hotels. Also on food, on taking Grab instead of spending five minutes to negotiate a taxi meter, on drunkenly splashing out on drinks for myself and my boys. I admire those of you who have been prudent and are now enjoying a better retirement lifestyle for your savings. Am starting to consider how I can cut back in order to put more towards my retirement fund. But my point is- you will never understand others’ motivations nor where they penny pinch to give themselves some luxuries. So don’t shoot them down for it, please. For a first timer like BenG1000, I can absolutely see why he would want everything to go like clockwork and is willing to spend to make that happen. We already know nothing in Bangkok goes according to plan! So let the man have his comfort. To the main part of my post - boys and how they respond to expensive hotels. I have NEVER experienced a boy who sulked upon receiving an agreed upon tip (or a fair going rate) simply on the basis that I stay in a good hotel, and therefore should offer more. Boys know that tips are given based on service and chemistry. Instead I find they put their best foot forward if they believe I am a well-heeled customer (pun unintentional) as they hope for a second off, perhaps with a little extra the next time. The younger boys who are newer to the money boy business love taking selfies in a posh hotel - it boosts their status in the eyes of their mates. And they’re always delighted with the comfortable bed and roomy showers, it puts them in a good mood and sets the tone I find. Even helps me to persuade one or two to long time, with the temptation of trying an expensive hotel breakfast the following day. I find most of them posing for selfies next to the hot plates and juice station! It actually warms my heart that I can offer them this little pleasure (seeing a fancy hotel, being treated like a proper customer in the dining room) so they have racked up some experience for their future “careers”. At first shy and awkward on their initial visit, nothing delights me more than seeing a boy come back on my next trip and strut into breakfast like he owns the place. And, because I like older boys in general, these boys tend to be more experienced. They have been literally everywhere with wealthy Asian customers, even flown business class - a five star hotel means nothing to them. I was just told of a Moonlight model who was paid 100K to travel with a customer for 3 days. They gently put me off when I suggest ordering room service “room service no good, I bring you outside eat khao mun gai, my friend mother cooking”. So a 2 am jaunt for street food it is. Moral of my long ramble - if a boy is greedy, he will be greedy everywhere, hotel or no. Toss this one aside. If a boy is genuinely the lovely sort of boy you want to have with you, he will just try that much harder if he hopes to keep your business.

Scooby said exactly what I wanted to say in a much more elegant way than I could say it. I like nice hotels and do not mind spending money on them. I don't understand people buying 4-6 drinks in on a bar when it is much cheaper than a 7/11 but I don't drink and not my thing so I don't criticize. I also never spend money on nice clothes. Not once, ever in my life. It is not my thing. But, I do like nice hotels and tipping boys what I feel they deserve. Anyone who makes money gets to decide how they spend it. I was criticized on here for years for spending money on hotels and thus why I stopped posting those experiences. In the last 3 months, I have stayed at three Intercontinental Hotel in 3 different locations in Thailand plus one in Singapore, one in Hong Kong and one in Tokyo. I loved those stays. But, too much bitching on sites when I tell others about this that I often just don't post the details. I never posted to brag but to inform. However, some do not see things that way.

This thread got derailed because some members want to comment on how members choose to spend their money. Try to remember it is their money, if they want to stay in a 5 star Hotel it is no one else's business. If they want to take a Limo from the airport to their Hotel again it is their money . If they want to fly Business Class for their 20 hours in the air, again it is their business how they spend their money. If a member asks for opinion on Hotels in a certain price range then this Forum will undoubtably give him wonderful information which he can digest and make a decision. I also find it ridiculous that a boy will want a larger tip because of where you are staying. That amount is determined before you leave the BAR etc and 99% of boys would never expect more . BenG1000 has picked an excellent Hotel in a great location and I have no doubt he will enjoy his stay there.He might even even enjoy the wonderful Buffett Breakfast he will get as will his companions.

@DivineMadman I didn't try and piss in anyone's punchbowl. I was simply pointing out: 1. There is much better value in Bkk away from the international chains, I never mentioned projection or anything else, that YOU are projecting onto what I said! 2. Expectations change when the boy arrives in a hotel, suddenly the 2500 ST that he agreed with you at the bar feels cheap when he arrives at the 8000B a night hotel (W being 8000, Raya being the 3000 option), this in turn may lead to a lesser performance as they are feeling short changed. Of course this is not every boy, but with some it happens 3. On the bar point I simply pointed out that as the OP has already stated he is a bottom he would have better luck in Screw boys for finding a top twink type guy Seems you are very tetchy this morning, the OP is a newbie and I think its only fair that he receives balanced advice of all our combined experiences

Each of can and should make "am I getting value for my money" decisions. And for many of us they will be different. I don't go to the gogo bars all that often these days so the cost of roughly $16(US) plus waiter tip for club cover charge + drink + rather well done show with some very well built men + opportunity to select from a parade of guys that i can take away for sex if I want (and pay for) --all for about $16 seems ok as the occasional luxury item, which is what I think of any of these places. Sort of like a steak dinner every once in a while or a drink poolside at a luxury resort. And these sorts of places only exist in a few spots around the world. They certainly don't exist in sub-freezing New England where I would otherwise be. Also, I don't think of them as the neighborhood bar where I hang out and drink with friends, whether old or transactional. One drink at the Lebua Sky Bar is only a little less. Sad truth is these days being a tourist in Bangkok can be very expensive (although it doesn't have to be).

Not true. I have worn my boa and they loved it! They even called me darling.

Wow. So if someone stays at Le Meridien they're "precious." Sad that you feel the need to criticize people like that. It's the usual shit about people projecting their money issues onto others. If someone wants to spend their money on X, Y or Z, they should be free to do so. Can't imagine how this negativity makes you or the world a happier or better place. Do you really walk by nice hotels thinking such bad thoughts about the strangers who stay there???? And if the customer has left the bar and he and his guy has already set on the standard short-time or long-time tip, expectations are set and that's s non-issue. Maybe the guy will like being taken to a Le Meridien or Crowne Plaza or Raya. Also, there are tons of twinks who happily both or top, even at Classic Boys. If the OP twinks, why not take him at his word. If the OP wants to stay at the W, why piss in the punchbowl.

As far as tipping is concerned. For 90 minutes I usually tip 1,500 or 2,000 if there's been penetrative sex, a meaning blow job or the combo of massage/HJ is star quality. At one hour the starting point would be 1,000. There are certainly cheaper shops, but the places I go even in some of the farther out neighborhoods 1,000/hour "Hard" massage tip is common. Beyond that I am incapable of slicing and dicing like some people. "This was an 800 baht experience" "This was an 1,100 baht blow job." I just can't do that. So I have a budget and a simple this-is-what-I-pay rule and then I can turn off my brain and enjoy the experience.

Interesting, but with a much less effective rate. 86% leaves a lot more wiggle room than the 92-99% effectiveness of daily regime PrEP. Bottom line (for me), until the manufacturer and leading ID doctors say it's as effective, I would never do intermittent cycles. Daily use results in maximum protection. Protection is the very reason why we take the drug. Why would I want to cripple the effects?

Just a couple of points from my perspective, prefaced by the general observation that you should feel free to spend what money you have at your disposal in any way you want to ensure that you enjoy the holiday experiences that you want to. Some will spend a higher proportion of their available budget on a top-end hotels and resturants, some will spend a higher proportion on drinking and partying, and others (myself included) will spend that higher proportion of their budget on having sex with the boy(s) (they can cum in pairs ) of their choice. Its a fundamental 'up-to-you'. However I would observe that when you call-down a boy you like the look of in a bar and buy them a drink, a two-way interview process takes place to see if you are likely to want to spend more time together. For their part, the boys will almost invariably ask 'what your name?', 'where you from?', 'where you stay?'. 'how long you stay?', 'your first time in Thailand?' - amongst other questions. These seem simple questions and maybe you feel they are just being friendly, and indeed they are, but the are also subtly pigeon-holing you into degrees of potential. And, unless they are very new to the business, they will already intimately know most of the regular hotels in the area including how much it costs to stay there. They will also make a further assessment of you quickly dividing you between 'Mr Horny' and 'Mr Lonely' and they can then act the pornstar or act the boyfriend accordingly. As a newbie ten years ago I went on my first night into the first agogo I found and then barfined the first girl I saw and she stayed with me for the rest of my holiday. Thereby breaking just about every mongering 'rule' and making just about every newbie 'mistake' in the book - but I still had a great time notwithstanding. Just keep a smile on your face, and your hand on your wallet, and you wont go far wrong LOL

Perhaps my caveat would be, I usually do not disclose my hotel until AFTER the tip is agreed upon. And I repeat, I have never experienced a boy changing his expectations after discovering I stayed in a good hotel. As for those super star muscle boys, you might be surprised that they do not really care about where you stay. They’ve seen their fair share of good and bad hotels (ditto customers) and as long as you are reasonable and respectful, and fulfil their requested tip they do not tend to judge. In fact, being older (some are raising children), most of them are more skilled at thriftiness and money management than younger lads and are completely aware that a modest hotel does not always mean an empty bank account....and vice versa.

It would be awkward. What I did was went to Club 117 and pick out my 4 sexiest regulars and told them to invite friends. They did. The bartender went. A drag queen or two and we had a full booth. The boys are smart and know they get free booze and an expensive ticket. I reserved my booth through the Intercontinental Hotel so they did the book and the payments. That was not a smart move as they added a service charge but it was easy to deal with. At the end of the night, I paid for extra booze on an American CC. It was not a cheap night but we were buying lots of bottles. And, did I say I had many sexy Brazilian boys giving me tons of attention. I loved it and did the same thing for 3 years in a row.

I'ld be interested in reports of your recent visits, because there have been several reports that it was no longer a "full service" massage shop. As to your incredulity - in the tiresome wordy bits of the blog I think I made it clear that it's my list with my choices. I even specifically called out why I didn't put Banana Club on the list. In the section titled "Deliberate Omissions" -- did you check there, by the way?? -- I wrote: Banana Club (Asoke) has a lot of fans, but there have been too many reports of theft. I recommend it for foot massages at the ground floor level, but there should never be any reports of theft. Plus I don’t like the common shower/changing area and found the selection not so great last couple of times I went there. But as I said, it has its fans. Fine with me if you disagree. De Gustibus and all that. At least I gave you the chance to experience the incredible. That's nice, isn't it? I think there's a line from Alice in Wonderland about six impossible things before breakfast. So you're one-sixth of the way there today. Please do give us a report of your recent visit, because that would be the best thing of all, and it would correct all those statements out there that it's closed for funny business. And of course the graciousness of your post is most touching.

I'd prefer to remove them myself , with guy's permission of course

we are derailing this great thread

Why not? for a week that's reasonable

I don't know about colmx but me, yes

take nothing off your list based on our reviews and opinions here and what others are saying in other places, go and check for yourself. We may have base for negative review or , opposite, to sing accolades about guys and places but that not necessarily may reflect what you will see. Arrive with wide open eyes , not preconceived notions and rest assured , no matter how wide your eyes will be opened on arrival, after bars tour they even will be waaaaaaaaay wider . You are for a treat and there's no Thai trip like first trip

our time will be better spend NOT worrying too much about mamasans

I was looking at Babe’s IG account and found this old photo of him working at a somtum food stall in Chutuchak weekend market! I used to go there to ogle hot guys’six pack, food was not so good. haha Never knew Babe was working there. Many customers were taking photos with them. An older guy in the red costume was very offended when I asked if boys were working as gogo boy at night. Guys didn’t speak English. I took the photo below

It’s the opposite actually. Babe started out as a dancer, even when still in school - and before he had a few minor enhancements which created the ridiculously photogenic mug we all know and love. His early social media videos show a very skilled mover, even at the young age of 15-16. He started lifting weights, got his body, grew into his looks and the rest is history. Along the way some of his “seniors” recruited him into bar work, initially just to be a headline model. Unfortunately they are hardcore money boys, so he’s starting to get accustomed to this way of life. From “no offs” to “women offs” and who knows.

Can't disagree with most the comments above except for the idea of staying in overpriced hotels like Le Meridian, Sofitel, W etc. A night in this type of hotel can be 5-8000B a night and in my experience leads to an inflated expectation of a higher tip And lets face it in bkk the difference between a 3000 and 8000 a night hotel is pretty negligible, unless of course you are precious and need to feel extra special or have points to spend Also you state above that you are a bottom, but are seeking a "twink" - most of the twinky boys in the bars are (raging) bottoms... I a guessing that you are looking for "manly" or gay tops? if so I don't think Classic boys is the best place for you. Perhaps Screw boys would be better?

Agree with the great advice here. As a newbie myself, taking a seat at Maxis on my first night in BKK was the best thing to do. Sit, watch, listen and learn. It was fascinating and if you get the right seat you can get a good look into Fresh boys which was a bonus. Plus the staff there are awesome. I’ll be there again April 19. Can’t wait.

I think the opposite is probably true in my experience I reckon he started out as a rank-and-file MB, and has now decided that he's worth more, its definitely more common for bar boy to turn to model and then unavailable as they become more muscular (and more desirable to a subset of customers) Not uncommon And in fairness... he's not wrong, he is spectacularly handsome!

May should not be particularly busy. The coronation will be 4-6. That of course will be a big event. I think the 20th is a Buddhist holiday. If you've done anything at all right then the guy will ABSOLUTELY want you to take him again. Will he really get annoyed or hurt feelings? No. He may play pouty-face, but he knows the deal. I think the pouty-face thing is kind of cute. If he's not disappointed that you're off'ing him again, wouldn't that make you wonder? LOL One side note - I avoid saying "maybe next time" or "maybe another day" unless I really mean it. I find that this will all of a sudden becomes "but you promised me". Whether this is because of real translation issues or it's just a well known pressure game they play, I don't know. (I think the latter.) In full disclosure I should note that I am a one-guy/one-bar person. If I have a regular from one bar, I steer clear of other guys from his bar or his friends. There are also working guys who will not go with someone who is a regular of a friend of theirs. It's all just a bit of politeness. I even avoid going to one particular because I broke up with someone who works there and I think he would lose face if I go and off another guy. But fortunately this doesn't really limit me. God, I love Bangkok.

I completely agree I have been to the DR more 120 times in more than 30 years and the information offered by the posters is accurate, the people mentioned are correct. Manny does not stock my twink types and as I have my own personal shopper, so to speak, I have not used Freddy or Francisco in a few years but they are there plying their trade and very open. Truly, this is not hard.

If only Babe is having s*x with his customers, he could have been my next off

DivineMadman wrote my post better than I could have done. I’ll add an additional comment on Maxi’s as a place to watch the world of Twilight emerge as the evening approaches. Many Forum members meet up there and then split up to pursue their varied interests. And sometimes the “varied interests” arrive with them.

Firstly welcome to the forum, delighted to have another member here especially with a Bangkok trip right on your horizon. Most of the places you mentioned are high end boutique hotels and they are usually very accommodating with overnight guests. In fact I know someone who conducted a sexy bedroom photo shoot at the W with several gogo boys! Ditto all major five star hotels. As poster above mentioned, gay friendly establishments may also be a good option. The Raya is popular here with forum members for being close to the action, as is Tarntawan. I am pretty confident Soi Twilight and Soi 4 will be there when you visit so no worries about that all! Fully agree you should check out Soi 2, GOD (beware many cute boys here are money boys and equally require payment) and I would add Fake Club to the list though this is best with company - at a pinch, I like to off one or two bar boys to be my wingmen rather than go solo. Or if you want a classier venue, Maggie Choo’s on Sunday night - lots of foreigners and nicely turned out Asian tourists. Jupiter and Moonlight have their fair share of attractive twinks too. I would recommend not neglecting them, and take in a show at one of the larger establishments too so you have basis for comparison between all the bars.

You’re always so busy blathering to marvel at yourself writing needlessly academic dissertations that you overlooked the previous post in a thread that said: “you pay Manny (or the finder) his fee when he brings you the guy to your apartment or hotel, before you go back to your room with the guy.” It’s really not that hard for a reasonable person to understand. You pay the finder once. You’re the one that makes your own life difficult. Your eleven-paragraph tirade here — amongst many other posts — indicates you may have some kind of emotional problem that needs addressing offline. Please seek help before you place yourself or others in a dangerous situation.

And, now this: https://pagesix.com/2019/02/24/jussie-smollett-reportedly-has-evidence-to-dispute-police-claim/

That singlet lol, its one of those that makes you look slimmer right? Dunno if he needs it or not, but weird to see he wears one

Very often Mastercard and Visa cards issued outside of Brazil will not work on Brazilian websites for payments. I have had some luck with using an American Express card on a few sites, so you may want to try an AMEX card if you have one.

Thanks Koko, Great film. However, 1906 SF had no traffic control system, In Pattaya they just ignore the one in place.

I am not surprised at all, just saying I had no personal experience and some posts seemed to say they were different in their expectations and demands.. Although not my type , I would expect them to behave the way the great Majority of Thai people behave.

Relax, I think vinapu was just kidding. I also didn't think colmx was being judgmental and was only sharing his perspective on hotels and offs. From his post I didn't get the impression that he was projecting his money issues on anyone or that he even had money issues.

My friend has paid him 2000 for drinks and he was fine with it. Also very willing to pose for photos. Clothes on, sadly.

DrimVoiz, my understanding is that it is OK to share Links. But just cannot post Sexy Pic on the Forum Page. Maybe Michael can clarify this??

PICS AND VIDEOS INCLUDED So my husband and I decided to come to Santo Domingo for the log holiday weekend! This post will detail what many of us wanted to know about the prison and some other salacious details about this AMAZING COUNTRY! lets start with this PRISON that everyone, INCLUDING MYSELF IS SO DAMN INTERESTED IN. PRISON: A good, slutty buddy of mine, who travels to the DR as often as I do, was telling me about the prison Thursday night before I left for the DR. After his story, I knew the prison was not a place I wanted to visit. he explained how he visited the prison once with a friend of his. this friend of his was dating a Dominican guy who was jailed for a crime he committed. he explained that they visited the jail for his friend to drop off money and have sex with the Dominican guy. he further went on to explain that the conditions in the prison were beyond deplorable and a very dark, scary place to be. like a previous poster stated, "If you go once, you never want to go again." He told me that while his friend went to look for his incarcerated friend, they had him in the courtyard with the actual criminals because he had no one he was visiting. he explained that they do check your identification, but you have to walk around the jail and look for the incarcerated person on your own. he stated that while he was in the courtyard, he was harassed by the inmates who were aggressive in asking for money. apparently they only get fed once a day in the prison, but if they have money, they can buy snacks and other good like in the American prisons. he also informed me that before you leave, you have to give money to the guards. hes a very good friend of mine and told me NOT TO GO ANYWHERE NEAR THE DAMN PRISON. FRANSISCO REGARDING THE PRISON: When my husband and I arrived in the DR I hurried to pacos to meet with Francisco. id never met him before but saw a picture of him in on this site, I believe. I asked a waitress for him and she called him over to our table. I greeted him and told him I was an American looking for boys for sex. he said he could help me and for me to pay him whatever I wanted as a finders fee. I asked him about the prison and he told me that the prison was safe and not to worry because he takes guys there often and nothing has ever happened. my husband was adamant about not going, but the whore in me was still curious about getting pounded out by a group of criminals. my husband then stated that I would be a fool to risk my life, freedom and career for a 30 min fuck and I agreed. I then ask Francisco about the house with the boys. he asked if I wanted to go now and I told him, "in a couple of hours." I then asked him how would we get there. he told me, "we will use public transportation." the look on my husbands face was like, "hell no, we aren't going anywhere in the taxis or buses that we see riding past pacos." in that moment I decided to call many. I WhatsApp manny and asked did he know about a house that an elderly guy owned and young boys are with big dicks hung out all day. within minutes manny responded with a pic of himself and the guy smiling like father and son. I should have known that manny knew the guy because hes so well connected in santo domingo. manny asked when we wanted to go to the house because he would call the guy beforehand and let him know what type of guys to have at the house. fransisco is a lovely guy and we probably would have gone with him had he had reliable transportation to get us back and forth safely to the house. my husband and I had already booked about 5 of mannys guys for Friday and didn't want to cancel any of them because manny's guys are always so damn delicious and passionate. I told manny to set up a time with the guy who owns the house on Saturday afternoon because we had already scheduled his guys to come to our villa all day and into the night on Friday. he set up a time for 3 p.m. on Saturday. im so thankful we used manny to take us to the house because hes so damn knowledgable about the DR and in route to the house there were many interesting sights that my husband and I had questions about. im also happy we hired him because its about a 40 min drive to the house from pacos. I would have been very uncomfortable using public transportation going to the house. during the drive I asked manny about the prison. MANNY REGARDING PRISON: when I asked him that, he spoke to me in a stern voice and told me to NEVER EVER VISIT THE PRISON AND TO GET THAT THOUGHT OUT OF MY MIND FOREVER!! he told me he would never take any of his clients to the prison because there is too many bad things that can happen. he explained that there is so much corruption within those prison walls and that the worst of the worst is in there and once you go within those prison walls, YOU HAVE NO PROTECTION. he told us that there are more knives in there than at any restaurant. he says that its extremely easy for the most terrible of criminals to get their hands on weapons and do harm to you. he also said that there could be a fight in the yard or in another location in the prison while you are there and they will shut the prison down while you are locked inside and you wont be able to get out. he says if that happens they will extort you for large sums of money in order for you to get out of jail. he stated that anyone who takes you to the prison, you should be very skeptical of because they could be in it for the money and a scheme to have you locked up for no reason. when he told me that, I knew that my husband and I would only use his services for the duration of this trip and future trips. We finally arrive to the house after a 40 minute scenic drive. Many blows the horn and a young guy opens the iron gate. When we pull into the yard, I noticed about 15 guys, many americans sitting around chatting it up in the front yard. The owner of the house was sitting in the yard. My husband and I walk over to greet him, shake his hand and give him a kiss on the cheek. This older guy is such a nice, pleasant guy. In talking with him, he told us that he lived in American for 49 years and had moved to santo domingo and living off of his American pension. He stated that he was in the armed forces in America. He is such a sweetheart and an absolute pleasure to speak with. My husband and I then turn around and begin speaking with the other guys in the yard who were just there hanging out for the boys. It was actually a very nice group of guys. They were in the yard drinking and eating snacks. About 15 minutes after we arrive manny calls me into he house. I walked in and the home owner and manny were standing side by side. Manny told him what I was looking for and the homeowner called 2 guys in the house and told me that they had the BIGGEST DICKS out of the whole group. We walked to one of his rooms and the homeowner told us to be comfortable and have a good time. The guys start to disrobe and so did my husband and I. witin 3 minutes, we are all naked with erections. when we were done, we asked the guys for their WhatsApp numbers and stayed contact. after we dressed, we walked over and paid the homeowner $1000RD each and gave each guy $1500RD each. the homeowner asked us to walk around and look for another guy if we wanted, but we declined. we spoke with him for another 10 mins, went back out to the yard and said our goodbyes to the guys who were sitting in the yard and jumped back in the van with manny. guys, for your sake, please be careful when you visit pacos and have anyone from pacos set you up with guys. also be careful when you get in a vehicle with anyone, ANYONE from pacos. another American hetrosexual guy saw me talking with someone (I only spoke with one person at pacos) from pacos and told to be careful because the individual sells drugs and I could get in a lot of trouble if im caught with that person. when I sat down with this person to talk about setting up sex dates, he did pull out a bag of money and told me that he had to hurry to the bank to deposit this money for his boss. it was a bag full of American and Dominican republic cash. although I didn't see any drugs or was offered any illegal substances, I can attest to seeing a ton of money in a bag and this person DOESNT WORK AT PACOS. before you jump in any vehicle with anyone from pacos please be aware that the person might be doing some highly illegal shit. guys, im not trying to assassinate anyones character or burst anyones hustle, I just want to make you guys aware like someone made me aware. if you think I am lying, when you go to pacos to set up some sex dates, ask the individual if they have change for $1,000 pesos and you will see what I saw. this individual keeps a brown bag full of money on his person. this is why im happy that my husband and I use manny. he seems to be honest. plus the last thing we want is to be headed to a house in san cristobol or a prison with someone who has illegal substances on them. its sunday afternoon here in santo domingo and my husband and I have already seen 2 guys today that manny recommended. we have a guy coming back at 5 p.m. and another coming at 11 p.m. below are pics and videos of the guys we have met and will meet until we leave tomorrow. like in brazil, 2 of the of the guys here thanked my husband and I for using the magnum condoms. we prefer the magnum bareskin. do a google search about those condoms. they are supposed to be the best. additionally, my preference for POPPERS is the small bottle with the gold lable and the word, "Engligh," on the front they are so damn strong and last a little longer than other brands. just my humble opinion. hope you guys found this post informative. check out my videos and pics below. all of these guys are mannys guys. I don't know where he gets these guys from, but my phone has been blowing up all day with guys that he has or my husband and I. sure I misspelled a lot of words. please forgive me. our 5 p.m. is on the way and I have to get CLEANED OUT, if you know what I mean.

View of the terrasse of OASIS and the program for monday nights

Arrived in San Juan last Thursday and went to OASIS the first night. Only gay bar remaining in Conrado. Good music. Nice and friendly barman, Henry. As expected even though they claim to open at 9 pm, at 9.30 pm I was the only customer. A screen display softcore gay porn (white party in Fort Lauderdale). As usual in Puerto Rico the temperature inside the bar is feeezing cold. Outside is a little bit hot. Inside is definitely too cold. It is the same everywhere : restaurants, museum, shops ... back at 10.30 pm there are a few customers but no boys. "2 might come" says Henry... hay que esperar (we must wait) as they say in Latin America. Puerto Rico is American for the rules (for a foreigner it is the same as entering mainland US, $ is used, there are Walgreens and CVS ...) but is is clear we are in latin america : everyone speaks spanish. Most speak English of course. Roads are as bad as in latin america with big holes in the middle of the street. Back to OASIS, I waited until 0.30 am and no boys show up. Henry said that there would boys for sure on saturday and best night was monday for the black mondays. Pity I am no longer in SJU on monday. OASIS party seems to be hot and worth attending. OASIS is very near to the gay beach and it might be worth going there in daytime.

Don’t neglect the “Timeless” forum...it holds the best of the GT forums advice and suggestions. Have a great visit...I won’t be in Bangkok until the end of May, so I’ll miss you.

1. I never said I don't pay. This is an escort forum, and I've hired plenty of times. Mainly for the thrill and convenience. And I've also dated or hooked up with other hot guys IRL without financial compensation. Any escort could tell you that they have a surprisingly decent amount of good looking guys hiring them. We all have our reasons and it's a pity that we can't just respect this and call people like me, who anyone could see from my many comments and some posts since 2014 have only shared on here with the best intentions, a liar or fraud. 2. Obviously. That's how the escorting world works. But I didn't give that guy a cent. He has a successful corporate job and has a very successful modeling career on top of it. He paid his own way throughout the relationship. 3. I doubt you'd be saying that if you saw him from the front. I deliberately chose that pic where he looks leaner than he is (he's jacked) because he is very, very well known and would be very unhappy to know that pic was published online. But I'm sure he ain't reading this forum so...

I went back through this thread and I read each and every post. I must say I am puzzled by your adverse reaction to the information offered by @SolaceSoul. Unlike many on this forum, he has personally visited the DM and he personally knows the people mentioned by 1tennisace. SolaceSoul offered pragmatic information for you, particularly about the "finders fee" imposed by Manny. You might want to rethink your harsh and inappropriate scathing of him.

that's sad. I never off him , just tipped and shook hand once but among models he was my best eye candy. First Fuke, than Sunny, time to expand horizons or return to Tawan

I say good for the boy and good for the man. The man got what he wanted and had to be happy with the situation or he would not have continued. The boy is a "working boy" and found someone who changed his life. Only the two of them know the arrangements they made and they were both happy with it for at least a while. I have bought my BF at least 15 motorbikes, a car and a house (I think but am not sure). And, I am very happy with everything he has been given to make his life and the life of his family better. My life has been greatly enhanced by him and I begrudge him nothing.

I have thought this over. If one of us lost a partner, no one would question us posting about it. Hell, if we lost a dog we'd be posting about it. So where does the rule get drawn that you cannot post about a loss- of any kind. It's the same thing Oz is always telling us- ignore what you don't like. Obviously an escort and a client can form a close bond. It can hurt when bonds no longer exist. So post about it. Many of us will be here for you.

Using the generously supplied GoodRx.com from MsGuy, I found 3 local sources for 30 count, 20 mg for under $23. They were Walmart, Sam's and a Kroger. Best regards, RA1