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  1. Wednesday - Hanging Out When Van returned, I woke up and we sat and talked and looked out of the windows at the light in the Bangkok night. He talked more about his family and how he had been cheated in his attempt to set up a business back in Vietnam. I didn't consider this, as some might, as a way to ask me for money to help get him out of his trouble. We had talked about compensation for his time this visit in advance of out meeting up a week ago. I believe he needed to talk and my ears were in working order. When we finally went to bed, he held me close for a long time. We woke around noon - unheard of time for me. After our shower, I was scrapping the plantar calluses that seem to haunt me especially when I am doing a lot of walking which is the case this past week, five to six miles a day. Van showed me that he had a callus on one of his feet. As nothing was planned for the day, I suggested lunch and a trip to MBK. Lunch was at the Vietnamese restaurant in the Silom Complex. At MBK, I introduced Van to the Red Nails shop where each visit I get a pedicure that scrape my feet. Van said he wait, I said he should have one. After some discussion, he agreed. When the process began he had a "deer in the headlights look". By the end - he was happy with the experience. From there we went bowling upstairs - neither of us is any good at this sport but are good at making fun of our lack of skill. On our way out, we headed for the BTS through Tokyu, the Japanese department store. Several times this trip, I'd offered to buy Van some clothes, but he either declined or didn't see anything he wanted. In the Tokyu men's department he asked me to look at a gray track suit and could he try it on which he did. Looks great on him. Price was reasonable (a little less than 2000 baht). From there we went to Siam Paragon. I checked out Uniqlo for some socks. From there we went to the Paragon men's store area when I had the opportunity to supply him with his work clothing...i.e. white briefs for his Freshboys on stage time. We went back to Bandara, he tried on his new clothes and gave me a version of his work in stage attire. We decided to go to the hot tub and relax as the sun was setting. The pool view isn't much- just the next building, but it was refreshing. The we hung out in the room as he played video games and I caught up on my accounts, email, and the news. We then went out to dinner (MK) and on to Moonlight. Every visit, I can see small improvements that enhance this top of the line venue. I let the mamasan know that we are not looking for anything but the show. This is a night where Van isn't going to recommend anyone - though he introduces me to two boys from the rotation he's work with in other clubs. The show has been discussed in the Forum and I won't add anything other than to note Babe looked fantastic tonight. After the show finished we walked back to Bandara and entertained ourselves. Thursday - playing the tourist Back at home, folks know that I visit Thailand on a regular basis. I talk up Thailand and encourage people to visit. My enthusiasm came back at me as a husband and wife I volunteer with are in Thailand. Before I left California, I'd sat down with them as made suggestions on the plans they'd made for their trip to Cambodia and Thailand. I'd promised to meet them today at the Everest Tailor and then go on to the Grand Palace where I'd hand them off to a guide who used to work in the palace. This guide is one tough cookie - she corrects the Chinese tourists using her voice that is a raspy foghorn. She's direct about where to stand for the best photo, she guards shoes while in temple spaces, and knows who from the ground crew will see entrance tickets so there's no waiting in line. The tailor goes well, my shirts are ready, and the shop will send them to the hotel. The couple meets me there, the wife wants the husband to get a suit or jacket and slcacks, he doesn't want anything. They settle on ordering some shirts. They tell me about their trip and how much they liked Chiang Mai. We have lunch at Mango Tree and head to the Palace. The guide is waiting, I say good bye, and they enter...I'll see them this weekend and learn how it went. I head back to Silom and walk to the Pilot Pen store. I like one of Pilot's brand of pens which I can't get at home. Alas, the building, which is across SIlom from the hospital, is being renovated and I don't see that the store is closed until I go into the building. In August, the store was functioning during the renovation. One of the women who worked in the shop in working upstairs at the Pilot office was getting out of the elevator and, to my surprise, recognized me, and apologized that the shop was closed but would be open for my next visit. Lesson: shoppers are recognized and frequency of shopping is noted. I walked back to Bandara and change and walk to the King Power Tower to meet Reader and Divine Madman for our sunset visit. I've written this up in my August report and others have also reported on the view, the building, the elevator, and the three level duty free shop so I'll only note than when we left we were ushered out via the restaurant on the courtyard as the main entrance was closed in anticipation of one of the Royal Family (one of the Princesses) arriving. Divine Madman, Reader, and I walked to Surawong considering places to have dinner. We eventually got to Maxi's and settled in and talked part of the night away. I said my goodbyes to these two very great guys. We toasted PaulSF who initially brought us together. Van saw us and waved from the stage. At some point out group broke up and I went back to the hotel and had a moonlight swim in the pool. I then went to bed until Van came in and work me up with an offer that I didn't refuse.
    9 points
  2. Someone good, 5 minutes. Someone bad, 1 hour. Someone else, toooofucking long!
    6 points
  3. The airport bus to jomtien stops at few places before stopping at jomtien bus station. The bus station is walking distance to jomtien complex but for the first two nights of my visit, ill be staying in ambiance, boyztown. So i cross the road and wait for the seongtaw to south pattaya. The bus stopped right in front of boystown soi where ambiance is, so i alight the bus and pay 10 baht to the driver. As i walked in boystown the first time, i already saw masseurs sitting outside scandic as well as body massage, ambiance. Went straight to ambiance reception and went up to my room, at the top most floor, lvl 5, with a terrace facing boystown. I unpacked, put my valuables in the safe and clean up a bit before heading out for dinner. After dinner, i make a stroll down walking street, all the way until the end and walked a bit toward bali hai pier. I stopped at the beach where i saw a group of thai boys playing sepak takraw, a traditional sports that is popular in south east asia, where thailand and malaysia has always been in the final of sea games for many years already. I stay and watch the game for a while, not because i love the sports, cant even play it, but because of the boys haha. Few of them are shirtless but one particular guy is actually in good shape, six pack, natural lean body haha. Hopefully picture below is acceptable here. If not please remove it. Walking street is also interesting place for taking pictures, and the straight have it all over here. So many varieties of girl bars, russian, indian, and of course thais with so many interesting themes like white bar, ice bar. After the walk, getting a bit sweaty, went back to hotel to shower and get ready for boystown visit. I planned to do a stroll first, just to know what bars and their locations. Ive asked advice from members (Vinapu especially) on where ill have better chance finding the kind of boys i like in pattaya. Muscles hunk to put it simply. Some recommended bars for me to see were BBB, Abomb, Toyboy and massage places like Copa, Scandic and Ambiance (body club massage) at first i didnt see where abomb is, but figured out its on a different street along with xboys, kawaii, and dreamboys. I went out of hotel a bit after 9pm, and thought i mustve missed the BBB parade. Guess ill try to be earlier tomorrow. One thing i like about most bars in pattaya is the dont have any issues if we want to have a peak first before going in and buy drinks. So i started to just do exactly that in most bars, went to see kawaii, 4-5 boys all too skinny for me, abomb, 2-3 boys only, too average, xboys, more boys here, maybe 10 or so, but each time they open the door, the boys and mamasan will clap so i didnt stay longer to see lol. I didnt peak into toy boys since their door was open so i can just see from outside. No one that interest me tonight. I also noted the show times for some bars, xboys have 3 show but i didnt go in for their show tonight. Castro also have underwater show but mainly drags and ladyboy. So tonight, i decided to go for BBB show. Its my first boy show in pattaya and i must say that this is definitely the best shows ive seen so far. I walked in before 10 to a 3 quarter full bars, and probably 30-40 boys on stage and with customers. It definitely the closest to dreamboys bangkok in terms of number and quality of boys, and at least during my visits, its better than dreamboys bangkok. The bad news is most boys are fully dressed, like those in jupiter. Thank god that some of the boys are still shirtless, maybe 3-4, and one guy actually have muscular body and good looking face, that can rival most boys in bangkok. Needless to say, even before the show starts at 10.30pm,i already thinking of offing him, before he got snatch by someone else. I called mamasan, and asked if he can sit next to me, and buy him a drink. Sitting close to me, he is even georgous, everything physically is perfect for me. He only wears a shorts thats up to the knee. Asked the usual screening questions and didnt take long before i off him. One big caveat for me, he dont like long time and wont be going with me long time tonight, but for that body and look, i still bite. As i said, the show is one of if not the best shows of all gogobars that ive been. I told the guybi want to watch the show, and he stays with me but says he will go outside during the show and come back when shows ends. He says he dont like to watch the show. Owh well. As it turns out, more and more customer starts to come and soon, all seats were occupied by customers. Its basically a full house by the time the shows starts and i realized my seat isnt ideal for the show, obstructed view. The show starts with few muscular men doing calisthenics stunts, things id pay for a ticket to see. Then they have bbboys shows, shower shows, masturbation show, complete with ejaculating cum to the audience at the front row lol. The bbshow is definitely hot, 2 of the dancer is definitely the cutest dancer, very manly and looks like korean pop star, and of course, they both got my tips. The morbidly obese guy doing a hand stand twist and a split was definitely a great ending. Its one quality show after another, pure art. Since the guy i off didnt seat with me during show, i can pay more attention to the shows. There is also more erotic shows done by some of the boys on stage, one in particular i really like, and during the big cock show, he participate, so i waited until he come to me, and give his penis a handshake with tips lol. I totally enjoy the shows, and once the show is finished, the mamasan announced that there will be another show in boys music bar at 12:30pm. Anyway, i went outside to get my guy and told him we can go to hotel now. He asked if i have the essentials, i said yes and he told me to move first. I told him my room is just next door in ambiance, so we walked through the reception, the guy at the counter seems to know him, and asked if i wanted popper, which i refuse, and off we go to my room. He likes the room, we chat a bit but his english is limited so i went to shower to clean up and so does he. My session went well, he did all i asked him to, even with language barier, he understand most of the usual lingo and sign language. His body is definitely to die for haha. Even if he is a dud, id still be happy with him by my side and letting me touch, carress, squeeze his body. He told me earlier he would go back to bar after the session which i totally understand. I shouldve said he was free to be with other client for drinks etc when i watch the show alone, but i didnt, maybe because i was hoping he would sit with me lol. Anyway, the session went great for a short time. And with that body and look, i might be bias in my assesment but i am left happy lol. He left around 1am or so, and carefully and playfully asked me for extra tips, and since i really like him, but dont want to encourage begging of money without any effort, i told him to kiss me and ill give those extra tips haha. He didnt hesitate at all lol. I also told him the next time i take him, i want long time. Its my first night in pattaya and i landed a gorgeous hunk. To be honest, its one of a guy Vinapu had taken before too, and i only know this after i asked his name when he sits with me. Its my first and last short time of this trip. He invited me to have a drink at boys music but i am tired and spent already, so i told hin i am going to sleep and we say our good bye. I slept through the day and woke up only at 10 or so am the next day, first day i actually skipped breakfast this trip
    5 points
  4. That Politics Forum over there is an addiction for a half-dozen men with seemingly no other life. I get trapped there too often. Keep your mind on sex and life will be better.
    3 points
  5. both are sure sign of emotional comfort. You found your gem in Van , that's for sure
    3 points
  6. I truly do not see the need to debate politics. We all know that Republicans are whiny little bitches. Right?
    2 points
  7. OOPS... NEVERMIND... PS Me too, Lucky, me too. Now if I were in charge, things might have ended badly.
    2 points
  8. Lucky

    The Other Forum Closing

    If you think that I disagree with that, you miss my point. My concern was being a one-trick pony when I know that you have so much more to offer this website.
    2 points
  9. Lucky

    GayThailand.com Moves On

    I am glad that Oz has a really thick skin.
    2 points
  10. Actually, there isn't much chatting being done here lol but yes, i definitely take as compliment. Either he likes me or my pocket lol. Either way it feels nice to have such specimen showing you affection in public
    2 points
  11. Studulike

    Medellin

    Well I landed in Medellin a city of webcam boys and dreams. Unfortunately I didn’t manage to hook up with any of the web cam boys I had chatted with and as it’s a business trip didn’t have as much time as I would have liked to explore. Now the ups ! Oh there were plenty of those ! Saunas ! Only tried 2 and that was Barbacoas friendly doorman but not busy and the one guy I would have tumbled with was occupied ! Tobi ! Not sure where all the movie stars were when I visited but neither visit had them. 1st visit met a lovely straight gay for pay Venezuelan and although he was a looker more of a boy next door and didn’t want to do much gay for his pay. The next visit met a lovely guy who the ever so friendly Hugo TIPS TIPS the bar tender introduced me to. He came back to my hotel and I fucked him all night for free ! Another Venezuelan ! I proved very popular on Grindr and blocked many more than I met off there but the couple I met were hot and did what they said on the tin ! One word of caution ask for a current clear photo ! They are keen on using photos that represent what they would like to look like and many many ended up blocked ! Fercho ! What can I say ! Found them via a post on here sent them a watts app message and within 30 minutes had a who range of photos of the boys ! The main man was very responsive to my messages and requirements and within 2 hours I was in my kind of heaven. I live a bar full of boys I can watch and discover a little more about before making my choice. On this occasions there was nothing that Floated my boat on site but after a quick cruise through his brochure ( a mass of photos on his phone) I was soon joined by a hot hung completely complaint webcam model who I spent an amazing time with. Contrary to previous posts they do have showers and although this is no classy high end bar it is a really local fun place with lovely helpful people and they always make sure they book you a taxi and log the number for your safety. Went back the next night and found a very lovely butch little number that was happy to be my bottom ! And then unfortunately I had to leave. Fill your boots be careful but don’t be afraid and to clear up another question on everyone’s lips ! When the guys use the $ sign as is $100 it’s the same as we use the K for thousand so $100 is 100,000 pesos ! Always check as there I’ll always be a chance but even hotels advertise there room rates with the $ sign and the hotels I’ve stayed certainly weren’t $2500 (usd)
    1 point
  12. Latbear4blk

    YOU

    The snow storm gave me time to do some TV watching. I loved this show.
    1 point
  13. Lucky

    Lucky Mouth

    It’s no secret that I am willing to speak up, but it doesn’t always win friends or make allies. But in Bangkok, we had gone to Chinatown and walked miles in the heat. We were tired and sweaty upon returning to our nice air-conditioned hotel. But it wasn’t air-conditioned upon our return. The power was out. The hotel says they notified everyone of maintenance taking 4 hours in the hot afternoon. But they didn’t notify me. So I approached the front desk to make my complaint that it was hard to get ready for the spa under those conditions. Well, okay, aI didn’t specify that. The manager heard me and walked over to introduce himself. Everything was very friendly and he wanted to know how he could make it up to us. Two massages? No. Drinks? No. I suggested 20000 points, but he said he couldn’t do that. Then he suggested dinner at the nice restaurant, so we agreed on that. What a lovely dinner. Anything we wanted. The bill must have come to $150 US. (We don’t drink alcohol.) But not bad since I wasn’t going to say anything until I saw the super beautiful clerk on duty. And it got better. At dinner, we met a colleague of the manager and she asked, since we were leaving the next day, if they could comp us a limo ride to the airport. Oh, sure! Why not? At the airport, a hotel rep greeted us and smoothed our way through. Nice to be a VIP, no? Lucky and his big mouth!
    1 point
  14. OK. I hate to say I like this show. But, I do. It is about vampires and the end of the world as we know it. But, the first episode was good. I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to the storyline.
    1 point
  15. TotallyOz

    Drag Queen Story Hour

    I love this creative idea of a Drag Queen story hour. Tolerance, acceptance and anti-bullying endeavors are great no matter where they are. https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2019/01/12/colorado-towns-drag-queen-story-hour-draws-protesters-counter-protesters-windsor/2550820002/
    1 point
  16. Maybe. But if you scream too loud and too often, you'll end up a lonely queen that no one wants to be around. Balance is everything.
    1 point
  17. tassojunior

    The Other Forum Closing

    Both Republicans and Democrats are, but yes.
    1 point
  18. I'll have what she's smokin'. Please pass that bong.
    1 point
  19. TotallyOz

    The Other Forum Closing

    You called?
    1 point
  20. My number 1 for the first couple years was 3-4 hours of insatiable bottoming 3X a week. Now it's gotten where I can only handle an hour with him even with viagra etc. 1 or most 2X per week. But with anyone else I'm lucky to stay interested for a half hour tops. Still hooked.
    1 point
  21. I'm usually good with 30-45 minutes but I have a bud who literally takes 3 to 4 hours. I have to admit although i cant do it very frequently because I just don't have the stamina I really appreciate it when I get it lol
    1 point
  22. You get older, you get madder. I meant, of course, "reader" not "spoon"
    1 point
  23. Lucky

    Lucky Mouth

    Hehe, I am retired! But, it was nice to see that aI have retained some of my legal skills.
    1 point
  24. Lucky

    We’re in Hong Kong Now

    I think that Hong Kong is the capital city for hot young Asian men. Yet they do seem more interested in a sexy appearance than sex itself. Rome was like that, too. But, if Asian men do not interest you, then the hot looks may not work for you. I do agree that Chinese generally do not age well, my, husband being a true exception.. i didn’t age all that well, either, and I am Caucasian!
    1 point
  25. Studulike

    Medellin

    Ha ha I’m sure you won’t ! There is one guy who I’d seen his photo and he looked a bit gay for me and when I arrived he was there ! Muscles tattoos and so handsome in real life go fill those boots
    1 point
  26. Spoon I agree with Divine Madman, I'm sure the boys are like us. Sometimes it is really nice just to chat with a nice guy who can speak some English and I'm sure they also enjoy speaking with a guy who is clearly good company.(and lay down a marker for another night)
    1 point
  27. BigK

    White Boy Rick

    Now available on DVD and a very interesting movie. Matthew McConaughey plays the father of Rick. Set in 1980's decrepit Detroit Rick is 15 years old living in the Black Ghetto and becomes an informant for the Detroit Police to protect his father from his illegal firearms dealings. The police first have him making buys then gives him crack to deal. He's suspected of being the informant and is shot and the first round of criminals are rolled up and arrested. Then Rick, with colostomy bag attached, begins dealing to make money, gets used by the police to attempt for root out police corruption up to the Mayor and then gets arrested and jailed for life at 16 years old when the Detroit Police are unable to convince the FBI to go easy on him for his contributions. Based on a true story. I enjoyed the movie so much I watched the special features at the end which I also highly recommend. There is an ending to this story I will not reveal since I've already given so much of the plot.
    1 point
  28. quite possible he did not have courage either, sometimes pays to be brave. In Dec 2016 in Siem Reap I had tuk-tuk driver , very sexy with his knees poking out of his tatty jeans. I assumed it just a fashion but when I witnessed him meeting by chance another farang, much younger then me mind you , way they embraced and touched each other during brief conversation made me thinking I wasted great opportunity. Opposite to situation I had in travel office in HoiAn, Vietnam hiring car to go to MyLai. Without blinking eye guy behind the counter told me "when you return I will come to your hotel "
    1 point
  29. I do remember you there. I just can't remember the name. Was it PalmSpringStud? Or, ILoveHumor?
    1 point
  30. I will say Lucky, that there is no member on the board named Lucky. I do remember that you may have used a different name on that board but I don't remember that name. Sincerely, Oz aka anyone you want me to be
    1 point
  31. reader

    Chasing the pink dollar

    From South China Morning Post (Jan. 13) Three reasons Thailand is winning on same-sex rights in Asia Success for the gay rights cause in Thailand lies in, as the old Chinese formula goes, the “right time, the right place, the right people” Last month, the Thai government supported a bill that would make Thailand the first Asian jurisdiction to allow same-sex civil partnerships (“Thai government approves same-sex civil unions”, December 25). It is significant progress in the battle for sexual equality in Asia, in contrast to the failed referendum on gay marriage in Taiwan. Success for the gay rights cause in Thailand lies in, as the old Chinese formula goes, 天時地利人和 (tian shi di li ren he), or the “right time, the right place, the right people”. The right time: Asia has become more open-minded with regard to LGBT culture, as evident from increasing media productions featuring sexual minorities. The past few years in Thailand have seen a number of local movies and TV dramas portraying homosexuals and transgender people, which received worldwide exposure through web platforms such as Line TV and YouTube. Never before have sexual minorities received so much attention in the media and popular culture, which makes it the best time for Thailand to advance LGBT rights. The right place: Thailand appears more relaxed about sex and sexual orientation in general. The sex industry, especially sex tourism, thrives in Thailand. Walk down a street in Bangkok and you will probably see a number of transgender entertainers. Their performances are welcomed by not only Thais but also overseas tourists. The atmosphere of openness in Thailand makes it the right place to promote same-sex marriage. The right people: the country is facing political instability, as a result of the military coup and delayed general elections. The junta has been slammed for the political crisis. To stay in power and gain public confidence, it has to show the nation and the world that it has taken steps to promote human rights. The move to back an LBGT rights bill helps the military government promote a positive image and stay in the good books of the sexual minorities. https://www.scmp.com/comment/letters/article/2181660/three-reasons-thailand-winning-same-sex-rights-asia
    1 point
  32. I have fantasies about pizza delivery guys, room service waiters, and some of those 7-11 workers. Or guys on the train, bus, boat. Or those who set up and tear down the Patpong night market. Or some of guys who work in sidewalk stalls. Or..........
    1 point
  33. Day 1-3: Pre-Christmas: the Good, the Bad, and the Messy Like previous trip reports, I am bundling the non-sauna days into one post. I’ve heard this so many times in Brazil: Christmas is for Family, the New Year is for Friends. I am abandoning my own family this year for some friend-, and boy-, time in Brazil. In a way though, I have found a new family in Sao Paulo, with some friends I’ve known for a year. Some of them are even eschewing their own families to celebrate a sort of “orphan” Christmas dinner. I’m here for all of that. Leo, hairdresser extraordinaire, and Alex, the programmer, were my hosts for this stretch. I preferred staying with Alex and his bachelor’s pad, versus Leo’s house he shared with his mother. 1. Holiday travel I alluded to it in the last trip report, but Holiday travel in Brazil is no different than anywhere else. I left the USA with a very busy International Terminal, and arrived Sao Paulo Guarulhos with a similarly packed arrivals area. Upon exiting the Terminal 2 secure area, I saw a lot of families waiting for loved ones who were arriving for the holidays. A lot of balloons, music, and joyful tears: Noone was waiting for me though. I was supposed to Uber it to Leo’s house for dinner first before heading over to Alex’s pad. I whipped out my Uber and quickly got matched with a driver. But after 10 minutes of waiting, the car was not leaving its position. That was weird. After 5 more minutes, the ride got cancelled. And then Uber quickly matched me again with another driver. 5 minutes later no movement. 5 minutes later cancelled. This happened 5 more times. I wasted an hour doing this. While this was happening I thought about getting a cab, but held out hope for the Uber. I was also texting Leo about my issue. Leo tried to get me an Uber as well and got the same treatment. He told me another friend who was in GRU same time I was, was getting the same thing. It apparently it was too busy tonight. I cancelled the search. Leo advised me to do this: when I get matched with a driver next, to try to send the driver a message, of where I was and where I was going, to at least tell the driver that I was actually waiting and was a sure fare. I did it just that, my 8thattempt to get an Uber. I got matched, I quickly send the messages, in Portuguese. Sure enough, the driver calls me soon after to confirm what I just said, and 8 minutes later, I was on my way to Leo’s place. 2. Chips and Samba When I used to go to Thailand a lot, I would always get a Thai SIM card at the airport on arrival before heading over to the city center of Bangkok for the fun I came for. This would enable me to get the necessary internet data I needed (for Grindr, WhatsApp/Line, email access, google searches) for the usually week-long trip. The data never ran out, and I was even able to let a boy or fellow tourist “borrow” data from me when they needed, all for $15 a week. Flash forward to my previous 5 trips in Brazil. All have been over a week or more. It never occurred to me to get a SIM card, and have always been using my $10 a day(!) international plan from AT&T. I didn’t know why I didn’t get a local SIM. Maybe because the tourist infrastructure in Brazil is not as developed as Thailand, so getting a tourist SIM was not as straightforward, or as easy, without having to go through a few more hoops. It was so easy in Thailand: you just pop in the SIM before you hop on your cab or train to Bangkok. Brazil to me seemed harder. Even in another country, let's say, Costa Rica, it was easier. There was a cellphone kiosk at baggage claim in San Jose airport, and the attendant always spoke english. Leo, upon hearing that I was paying $10 a day, immediately planned on getting me a SIM card. On Day 2 we went to the shopping mall closest to Alex’s apartment and marched our way into a TIM store, a popular cell provider. Upon talking to the saleslady, and figuring out that I would be in Brazil on average 1 week a month in 2019, we determined that this monthly plan was right for me: It was about $30 a month for the plan, or $360 for 2019. Compare that to possibly $70 a month of using AT&T, or $840 for the year, for a savings of $480. With unlimited use of redes socias (social media) which was the whole point of using a phone in Brazil. And with my new iPhone XS supporting two SIMS, I could still use my AT&T SIM with my Brazil SIM at the same time, and just using my Brazil SIM mostly for data. The saleslady said that as a foreigner I could have a post-paid plan as long as I resided in Brazil. I didn’t, but Leo said I could use his address for billing. After a few more back and forths, Leo determined that it would be easier for the cell plan to be in his name, thus taking over the responsibility of the plan, in the case that I did not pay the fee. But that’s what friends are for right? It took us about 30 minutes to get all the paperwork all squared away, but I left the TIM store with the new plan on my phone. And the knowledge that I am saving about $40 a week on this. Which is what, one programa with a premium garoto? 3. Tale of Two Baladas Alex, my programmer friend, is a man of many talents, and with multiple irons in the fire. Apart from his day job, and his side hustle selling used electronics, he also helped sponsor a monthly 24-hour “party weekend” at a nightclub in Sao Paulo Zona Leste, which starts at 12 noon Saturday and ends 12 noon Sunday. Leo tells me that I would absolutely hate the party, because he thinks it is “muito bagunçado”, too messy, for my gringo sensitivities. Which made me want to go even more. I was curious. Did my friends think I was too sheltered and too particular to go to a regular Brazilian party? On the day of the event, Alex was up early tending to the details of the party. He told me I really didn’t need to go the party till well into the night, since that’s when the party really ramps up. So after getting haircuts, the SIM card, and even a sauna visit (separate post), Leo, another friend, and I Uber it to the venue at 2 AM. On the way there Leo kept warning me about how bad it was, that I would hate it, and to prepare to leave it early. So I set my expectations low. We arrived with Alex waiting for us and he gives us all a huge hug. Alex quickly gives us our wristbands and tells us the party is on him and we can help ourselves with the drinks. I noticed that there was still a line to get in, at 2 AM, with the party going on for 8 hours already. The place looked like a condemned building from the outside: Inside, it was like a sauna. No, not the sauna with Garoto de Programas. It was because it was super hot inside. It was already a super hot day today, and there was no air-conditioning, so almost all the guys in the premises were shirtless. It was surreal. It was packed to the gills. No doubt it was a popular party. I got scooped up by Alex and Leo to the VIP section where we watched to crowd from below: After the initial shock of the wall-to-wall flesh, the sweating from everyone, the shirtlessness, the trash everywhere, and the pools of spilt alcohol, it was actually a great time. Everyone seemed to be in their 20s, save for a few, and most were fit and cute and ready to party. I got to meet some of Alex’s groupies, and all were young and hairless and cute and adorable. The music was rough but enjoyable after a few drinks. The place was a dump, but it hardly mattered if you’re having a great time with friends both old and, as the night wore on, lots of new ones. I left at 5 AM, not because I wanted to, but because I wanted some privacy (wink wink). The next day, Leo was excited to go to a next party. It was the Tic Tac Festival, a bi-monthly party night in Sao Paulo, which sometimes used The Week Sao Paulo’s clubhouse as a venue. This was more Leo’s speed. Leo is a “The Week” kind of gay. Likes the more luxurious, air-conditioned, clean expansive space, crowd more well-off, that The Week offers. But another warning from Leo: a number of the guys there were beautiful, muscular, but were using drugs. “What drugs do they use?” I ask. “It is easier to tell you what drugs they don’t use,” Leo answers, with a nervous laugh. The entrance fee was a steep 60 reals, but it came with a program, so I guess you’re paying for a lot: We get in earlier, at 7:30 PM, because the party ended earlier. Indeed, The Week is pretty slick. Organized lines, counters, coat checks, ventilated spaces. The music was top-notch. The program was pretty cool and organized. But the centerpiece of course was the crowd. Indeed, the guys were hotter, more Instagram ready, more manicured. No one was sweaty. But yes, Leo was right, a lot were high on something. Which was fine, pick your poison and all that. It was a fun time for sure, but there was more posing and use of phones and Instagram live story streaming than the other party. The men here were more well put together, but less accessible. I had fun with my friends, and met a few more, but the drinks were way more expensive than the other club. Granted, I got my drinks comped by Alex in the other party, but still, it could not be as expensive as this: We left at midnight, pretty satiated from the revelry, but felt the need to continue the party in more intimate settings. 4. Hookups in the wild I didn’t look for hook-ups while in Sao Paulo, but rather let the nightclub nights dictate my boy hunt (and alternative to the sauna). At the Tic Tac Festival at The Week, I wasn’t able to make a connection with the porcelain doll gays with the perfect bodies and drugged out minds. Probably because I wasn’t a porcelain doll myself. At Alex’s balada, the boys seemed younger, probably because it was cheaper there, versus the high cost of the Tic Tac Festival. But the boys here seemed more fun, more friendly, more grabby. I got friendly with a nice, compactly-fit 19 year old. When Alex introduced me to him he was of course shirtless, abs in a naturally youthful torso, and wearing form-fitting shorts, and looking sexy. His face looked younger, dangerously younger, but Alex assured me he was of age. Alex also said I could trust him, so that soothed my fears of robbery and all that. The boy and I danced together, eventually graduating to making out. We attempted at conversation on the dance floor but it was too loud in the clubhouse. We took a break to go outside for a smoke, and I got to know him more. White kid. Cute as fuck. Amazing smile. Big bright light brown eyes. I was sold. I talked to Leo, who didn’t seem to have a problem with the kid. I asked the kid if he wanted to leave. He said yes, punctuating it with a kiss. So I asked for the keys to Alex’s apartment. I was taking this kid home. It was 5 AM. It was nice to have Alex’s apartment all to myself. He wasn’t going to be home till 2 PM, 9 hours from now, since the party ended at noon. And the kid was pretty good. Great voracious bottom, which meant his dick was huge, and it was. We didn’t bother showering. Had dirty sex. Didn’t matter. Didn’t use a condom either, which was stupid, but I was on PrEP. The kid stayed over. At 9 AM I was woken up with a mouth on my cock. The kid wanted it again, waking me up for more. At 1:30 PM I got woken up by a WhatsApp call from Alex, warning me that he was on his way home. I wake lover boy up. Sex in the shower. Left Alex’s bed an absolute dirty mess. I’ll deal with that later. We walk to a nearby padaria to have a coffee and some salgados. I walk the boy to the Sao Paulo Metro in Tatuape. I bid him farewell. Kisses me in full view of public. I haven’t done this kind of thing in a while. At this age it felt new. Different. Better. Travel Tip: (1) To avoid being cancelled on by your current Uber in Brazil, try to send a message to the driver as soon as you get assigned one. (2) Brazil SIM data plans are cheaper than international data plans, but it is easier to get if you speak Portuguese, or if you get it with a Portiguese speaker. Boytoy Tip: It is possible to hook up at the nightclubs, without getting killed or maimed afterwards, but it depends on the nightclub. Sometimes you find the best boys in the worst places. Next: Sauna Lagoa, and how it never disappoints.
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  34. Guest

    Where is the logic ?

    You are not missing anything! Probably dodged a bullet. Either not him or a very old photo!
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  35. Pretty big statement. Maybe you should list who you consider to be the Resident Big Spenders of this Board and enlighten us?? Myself I think everyone is entitled to spend the money they worked for anyway they choose and it is nobodies business! Same as nobody should comment on the frugality of certain members. On 2nd thought I don't really care who you think are Big Spenders.
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  36. Monday sorry for the length of this report...I'm unable to be concise, but will try Monday...routine morning, breakfast at Big Kahuna, beach, massage with Noo, watch the waves, head back to hotel. Decide today to have another massage. Pick boy at Fah who wears a baseball cap. Start out with a massage, both naked, he is well developed. Massage so so, then he starts to top me, this was not agreed to, even when I say no, he attempts to continue, massage is over...then he blocks the exit wanting more tip. I'd given him 1000 - settled on 1200. I just wanted to get out and end the experience. Note to readers - this was the low point of this trip. Back at the hotel, I process the morning unhappy with myself for arguing rather than just looking for the manager. As the masseur was taller than me, I did feel threatened - but only a bit. Unpleasant. I reply to a text from Max and we arrange for tomorrow afternoon. Text Soph to see if he will be at work tonight and arrange to come to T9y Boys and off him around 10. When I arrived back at the hotel, the housekeeper if just finishing - they guys who take care of the rooms at The Poseidon are excellent. Very aware of the guests habits and the timing of the "guests" of the guests. They know who might need extra towels or a special room cleaning. I go for a walk to clear my head, see some silk shirts on display at the tailor closest to The Poseidon. After lots of back and forth bargaining, my starting to walk out, we settle on the equivalent of $20 USD per shirt. Now that we have restored the relationship we had on previous visits, the owner and I start discussing a jacket. He gives me an education on the different types of linen. This leads to an order for a jacket - (this covered in the forum topic on Tailors in Pattaya begun by Paborn). i have an early dinner at the hotel, then head to Sunnee and Nice Boys, things are in "full swing". #12 who sat with me on Saturday, sees me and comes over and puts my hands on his privates. Another boys joins us but he is just sort of there, While #12 (Bom) and I hit it off. He asks me to off him? Said I was interested but didn't want to go all the way back to Jomtien (as I had to be at Toy Boys at 10). Mamsan Mac who had stopped by for a drink suggested a room near by (400 thb), an excellent solution! Room ws decent, shoer, towels, bed. That's enough and Bom was fun in bed. Not that any of the guys I've off seem to have many inhibitions, Bom had fewer! Clean up walk to Toy Boys, off Soph, back to Poseidon. Soph is special! We take a break around midnight and walk around Jomtien Complex. Sun Bar is having an anniversary party, and the crowd is incredible. I reported in another forum topic, that I saw one the staff (they each had Sun Bar anniversary shirts) pull up on a motorcycle with five 50 lb bags of ice for drinks, then leave and return with another similar delivery. Yes, I know the bags are in kilos, but it's easier to talk about pounds. Peas sees me, comes over, and see that I'm with Soph. Suggests we repeat our three some from last visit. I decline and give him 100 baht for effort. I return to ttthe hotel with Soph and we engage in some pleasant acts. This was an extended short time, Soph leaving around 2am. Tues Morning routine, breakfast at Continental, beach, massage, wave watching... Lunch on way back to hotel at pastry shop next to Fah. Quiche in Thailand, why not? As I pass Fah, masseur from yesterday is all smiles and waves to me, I wave back. Stop at tailor for a fitting, he tells me it will be ready on Thursday, I remind him the agreement was for Wednesday as I'm leaving early Thursday. Agree on Wednesday at 9pm. Max comes by around 4pm, shyness has disappeared as do his clothes. Pleasant and delightful time. He likes to be an aggressive romantic. Some of out interaction is standing and some is prone on the bed. Max has to leave by 7pm to be back at work. I offer him some money for the "ride". As before he declines. During his visits tot he room, I was using my portable speaker for background music. He had asked my on his first visit how it worked. As he was leaving, I offered the speaker to him as a gift. He said "no", then asked if he could say "yes". So he left with it and the charging cord. Guess he is a Music Boy rather than a money boy. I reordered the speaker from Amazon when I returned home..cost $27...about the cost of a short time half hour! Max is special, was special, and the goodbye was not easy. He returned ten minutes after he left the room for one more hug. Dinner at Alt Heidelberg, went then to Boyztown where there were few customers, for sale sign on Panorama, two guys on the Ambiance terrace, no BBB parade tonight. I went to Toy Boys to see if Soph was working, He was on his day off (at least that's what the mamasan told me). Saw a very cute and tall guy in the line up, called him over, very little English, while he was Thai, he reminded me of a Viet I was enamored with two years ago. We have some Google translate back and forth, reach an agreement, head out to the hotel...all in all, just so so....a cum and go situation. I'm back in bed, alone now, by 2am. Wednesday It's raining, so after a Big Kahua breakfast, I return to the hotel and wait for Noo to come by for my morning massage. It's Wednesday, which is no umbrella day at the beach, so we had agreed yesterday to move the massage indoors. Which was a good idea as it was a very rainy morning. I gave him 500 baht for the massage as he had to come to the hotel. At 11, my friends from Sunday night, picked me up and took me to a multi-course seafood lunch at a beach front hotel overlooking the bay. From there we went to the new Terminal 21 mall. Very large, very upscale, very much like Terminal 21 in Bangkok but with more outdoor space there is a full scale plane in the parking lot. I'm treated to a tour of the more residential areas of Pattaya, and we end the afternoon with ice cream sundaes. Back in Jomtien, I double check with the tailor who tells me all is on schedule, As the rain stopped a few hours ago, I walked to the beach to see what it looked like without the umbrellas. Completely different visual experience. Tonight is the 15 course dinner for the local gourmet society, Heiko tells me while the dining room is sold out, I'm welome to dine on the terrace and try the 15 courses. I decline as I'd had such a great lunch. There is a text from Bom inviting me to Nice Boys, before I say "yes", I text Soph who is available tonight and will come to The Poseidon rather than my doing to Toy Boys. (I'll reimburse him for the off fee).. I text Bom and say "thanks - have to wait for next visit". I eat something from a cart, pick up my jacket at the tailors, back to hotel, start packing, Soph arrives...morning comes...Soph leaves after some photos, I have breakfast at Continental, down to the beach to say goodbye to the umbrella boys, the managress, her dog, and Noo. Accept a shoulder massage, whish there was more time, back to hotel, finish packing, checkout of Poseidon, some judicious tipping to cleaners and desk staff. Car from Mke's Pattaya service arrives at 11am. Off to Bangkok.
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  37. Battery recharged When I reach the massage parlor, I know it's just a bit further on to get to Nice Boys, which saving as my last Sunnee stop tonight, I turn into Sunnee Plaza, wondering if someone neglected to pay the light bill...actually the dark spots are caused by the number of closed establishments. And of course, GoodBoys works in the dark. Four guys on chairs outside waiting for customers, I take a look in Eros, there a few customers, head next to Winner Boys, maybe a dozen boys, few customers (it's about 10pm), buy drinks for a couple of the guys, no pressure other than by reciprocal touching of private spaces. I head out for Nice Boys. Busy! Lots of boys and appendages on display per the bar's style. Invite #12 to join me and also gain a manasan, Mac, who looked thirsty. Drinks offered and accepted. I could definitely off #12 but have to complete my assigned duty to report. And I have a goal...off to Boyztown. Too late, for the BBB parade, the new bar/club is really lighting up the street. It doesn't open until after I've left for Bangkok co I can't report. Stop into Cupidol, maybe a dozen customers and a good mix of boys, I have a Sprite to be polite. One or two of the boys appeal to me, stop in the rest room, back rubs while at t he urinal still being provided! Off, to Toyboys, and my goal for the night. Soph, who I offered to great pleasure and a threesome, a few months ago, is on stage and comes over as soon as I'm seated. I'd texted him I'd be there tonight and this wasn't a chance meeting. He went to change, I paid the fees, tipped the mamasan 100, we then headed for the baht bus, The Poseidon, a shower, and a twosome this time. Soph is almost perfect for me, looks, charm, romantic abilities, willingness to play, and stamina. I'm not sure when he left, but it was almost dawn. We agreed to meet up again before I leave for Bangkok. Note, time with Soph, including off fee, was 1,700. Sunday Breakfast today is at the Continental as it opens before Big Kahuna and I've been awake since Soph left. Today is programmed, and can be reported briefly, Catch up on internet news, emails, etc. back at the hotel, head to beach, chair still there, pet the dog belonging to the management, stretch out on the sand for a 90 minute massage, back to my chair and some watermelon drinks. The masseur name is "Noo", I've neglected to mention that, sorry. Head back to hotel around 3pm, again chatting with and checking out the massage therapists on offer. Tonight, I'm meeting up with a friend, who I first met when he my guide to parts of Thailand and Laos. He has since left the business and now manages properties in Pattaya for some Americans. He is bringing his friend, Michel. They arrive on time and we dine at The Poseidon which lays on the full gourmet experience. Everyone is happy! They invite me to have lunch and do some touring on Wednesday. Accepted. After they leave, I head to @Home and off Peas and we head back to the hotel. Much more responsive tonight (me) and a pleasant time is had though I'm not the best bottom in the world, things work. This is a short time arrangement, and he leaves around 2am. He tells me he has to do a visa run to Cambodia early Wednesday morning.
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  38. With her, it doesn't even start!
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