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Sadly my experience in Colombia has been sauna- and rent boys from Grindr-free. All my experience is with Chaturbate models from Day 1. So I do not have any wisdom to share about these establishments, even if I've been to Colombia so many times now. But I wanted to add here my experience in Santa Marta from last weekend. Santa Marta is a one of the major cities along the Colombian Caribbean coastline. Its way less full of western tourists than the more developed Cartagena, but really popular with locals and Venezuelans so you get a different experience. Some points: 1. It was the Festival of the Sea (Fiesta del Mar) in Santa Marta last weekend, and I was there with 2 of my regular Chaturbate buddies (who are boyfriends in real life and on screen), who met me at the Barranquilla airport, which is a good 2 hours from Santa Marta, but has way more flights to it than the smaller Santa Marta airport, therefore it is cheaper to fly into. We Uber'ed it from the airport to the closest bus station, which was with a company called Berlinas. The ticket to Santa Marta was $5 per person, and it was a comfortable 2-hour ride to the Santa Marta Berlinas station: 2. There are two main destinations for beaches in the Santa Marta area. One is Rodadero beach, which is located south of Santa Marta proper, and its probably the less hectic and more picturesque of the main beaches: 3. The main beach is by the Bahia area in Santa Marta, which is busier but noticed more locals than tourists, which is good for window shopping for local eye candy: 4. Since it was super hot and humid almost all the time here (apart from the occasional showers), the boys are also usually sin ropa: 5. Since it is Colombia, you'll also find a lot of entertainers in streets. breakdancing hotties, for example: 6. During the special weekend I was here, there were a lot of parades. One of them was a parade of Marines from various latin american countries (Colombia, Brazil, Chile, Mexico, Peru etc), and therefore the town was filled with good looking fit and young marines celebrating with everyone: At night, the main parade, Desfile del Mar, was at least a 7 hour parade that went from the afternoon to night: 7. As far as gay establishments are concerned, I do not know if there are any saunas here. But bear in mind that Santa Marta is just 2 hours from Barranquilla, a city that has at least 5 Chaturbate/Cam 4 studios (that I know of). My model buddies had two best friends, also Chaturbate models, who also made the journey to Santa Marta this weekend as well, to escort. They told me that from time to time, models in Barranquilla usually take the bus to either Cartagena or Santa Marta to take advantage of the presence of the tourists in those cities, in the hopes of scoring some needed cash. They usually charge $25-$40 a session, which will usually pay for a night in their motel and their meals and passage for the day. Multiple customers make the trip worthwhile. At the very least, one customer makes the trip break even for them, so at least they get a trip out of it, instead of being stuck in the more inland Barranquilla. Snagging more customers meant extending their stay and living the beach life. They use Grindr mainly to ply their wares. Since I was with my two Chaturbate buddies (who are territorial and don't share me with anyone), I could not sample what was on offer that weekend, but my Grindr blew up anyway. There were just too many boys on Grindr looking, either free or paid. It was a virtual smorgasbord: 8. Speaking of gay establishments, the only gay club in town is "Voltage" a decent open-air dance club with a runway in the middle of the dance floor. There was a cover on a Saturday night ($4.50), and the music was the usual reggaeton and gay pop music that Colombians love, which was fine by me. My Chaturbate buddies invited the two other Chaturbate best friends along to go with us, after all their escorting duties were over of course (11 PM). The two guys paid for all our covers (it was a lucrative day for one of them), and I offered to pay for the drinks (seems fair). We opted to sit in the "VIP" section which was on an elevated platform overlooking the dance floor, which to me seemed a perfectly comfortable way to spend the night in. We were greeted by the drag queen (trans) in residence, with a waiter in tow, and she explained to us how it worked in the club, and what was in store for us that night. We came at a good night it seems. And our waiter who waited on us the whole night was hot: I paid $55 for a bottle of Buchanan's deluxe and some Coca Colas to wash it down, and surprisingly it was more than enough for the 5 of us for the night: It was a good night because the place was packed, and it was the coronation of Miss Trans Santa Marta that night as well: I'll say that this VIP section was a good idea, because it looked crowded down below with the masses, and up here we had the luxury of sitting in comfy sofas and talk without shouting. It was a good vantage point for the ceremonies as well, with the contestants and judges talking to us while the contest was going on: The main drag queen for the night, Kassidy, sat and drank with us and shot the shit. She was uber cool: Incidentally there was a gaggle of Chaturbate models with their boss in one of the tables that night. Since I already knew the boss I asked our waiter to get them a cheap whiskey bottle on me ($20). I scored brownie points on that one. Will collect on this favor later We left around 4 AM, with festivities still pretty much ongoing when we left. 9. Lots of AirBNB options for the area, and the one I chose had a king bed big enough for me and two chaturbate models. The building we stayed at didn't seem to mind letting the two other models in with the three of us, and all 5 of us were able to enjoy the two rooftop pools in the building. Overall Santa Marta is fun, but I would recommend it only if you are already in Barranquilla looking for a diversion, or visiting Tayrona National Park (fabulous by the way, a must visit). If hiring boys is a priority, lots to choose from on Grindr, mostly cam boys, but there are superior offerings in Cartagena, which is 4 hours away, and of course in Medellin and Bogota. The more choice boys along the Colombian Caribbean prefer whoring in Cartagena because there are more gringos there, but justifiably they will charge a little more because it costs more to stay there for the boys. However, I maintain that there are more choice free boys in Barranquilla in general, relative to Colombia, for some reason. Haven't had my Grindr blow up so much in Barranquilla.

Well, I used to think like that, but I am chaging my mind... I just visited Lagoa today and it was a total disappointment, few boys and none that I liked, it was the same last time I visited.... at 117 in Rio I never leave with empty hands (or with my pocket still full lol). I am a very proud Paulista, but I if you are looking for the sauna scene my recommendation is Rio.

I also think Sao Paulo is cheaper in general, with the exception of Lagoa boys. Hotels is hard to figure out because location is as important as the hotel itself and is impossible to compare the location of such two dissimilar cities. Food is definitely cheaper in Sao Paulo, even a soda you pay more in Rio, subway is also cheaper in Sao Paulo, although not by much. Yes, the Lagoa boys costs more, but the quality is also better.

Speaking for myself only...playing house with Brasilerios! :-)

The letter Q seems to have taken on a mysterious (ominous?) tinge as Trump supporters have readily adapted it to show, well, to show what? But I think we are supposed to be concerned. https://nypost.com/2018/08/01/how-q-became-the-biggest-conspiracy-theory-at-trump-rallies/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/01/we-are-q-a-deranged-conspiracy-cult-leaps-from-the-internet-to-the-crowd-at-trumps-maga-tour/?utm_term=.5dde96e5ed7f https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/politics/what-is-qanon.html

Right, Venmo (PayPal) doesn't monitor mentions of Venmo on people's sites. The transactions are person-to-person transfers, not person to high-risk business transfers, and as long as there's not a bunch of disputed charges, Venmo won't know any better. All these cash apps are the same as Venmo in that respect. Adult sites use the banks which provide high-risk merchant accounts I mentioned in my earlier post, which require huge security deposits ($250k and up, last I heard) and charge exorbitant processing fees (8-12% range). An escort site would then have to tack on considerable processing fees itself to make the hassle and expense of processing client payments worth their while. By the time all is said and done, you could expect the escort's fees to increase by 25% or more just to cover processing costs.

BTW, I know that hotel. I stay one block away from it whenever I go to Salvador. I have never stayed there but I have been inside of it. It is very similar to the place where I stay. The location for what you are trying to do while there, the convenience and the price points are perfect. As long as visitors are allowed (check first because I don’t know), then you should have absolutely no complaints. If you do, then we are two completely different kinds of travelers.

We disrespectfully referred to him as Jabba the Hut in our private conversations and public comments on Gay Brazilian travel forum of the time. Btw, anybody been to Corujinha’s lately or better still, anybody knows where the action has moved to?

You might not be aware, but many younger people internationally are now using CashApp and Venmo, which have options for receiving money instantly for between 1% - 3% of the transaction amount. The problem with these, like PayPal, Zelle or GooglePay, is that it requires a link to a valid bank account (debit, credit or otherwise) in order to send or receive. Many working boys in Latin America don’t have bank accounts. I have several trophy boys in Brazil and the DR who use CashApp or Venmo, but most are still stuck on Western Union transfers — which basically translates to being stuck on stupid.

Oz is using Invision Community, which I think is easier to read than anything that looks and feels like a vBulletin stepchild. IC has some quirks, depending on your OS (operating system), but I enjoy the open feeling of the space. Daddy's sense of design has always been very trailer park 1970's. He's an IT guy who wears overalls from Sears, hence his logo. His huge belly leaves no room for making any other kind of fashion statement. I have a feeling Oz looks better in a suit. When Daddy switched to XenForo software, my eyes crossed. He doesn't stray too far from vBulletin, because he doesn't possess an ounce of creativity or refined taste. He's not very GAY. Now, in fairness, I think most forum community developers should be lined up and forced to take a wooden bat up their ass. Feel the pain until you design something that looks and feels like you work for Apple. When it comes to forum software, we have no Steve Jobs, yet. Oz went in a different direction. I don't know his tastes or motivations, but truthfully speaking, I smiled when I first saw him stray from the ugly vBulletin norm. Internet Brands, the company that owns vBulletin, is completely devoid of any style and creativity. They hire code designers who wear Docker's pants. It's a requirement. In case you couldn't tell, I hate vBulletin software. It's uglier than a pair of Air Jordan III OG's stomped in dog shit. Unfortunately for style fanatics like me, vBulletin is fairly stable, and forum owners like stable software. So it's a difficult market for competition. Building style and stability in code is very difficult to achieve. If I had nothing better to do with my time and money, a Bucket List desire would be to create a really fabulous software for forum life enjoyment, the kind that a gay sophisticate would love. My gut tells me I'd hit a home run, but would my head survive the never-ending ache? I think I'd rather travel with hot men. So much more fun. ps Yes, another lean off-topic, but it seems appropriate for this thread.

I agree, Point nowadays has better looking guys than 117, however, if you prefer a certain type of boy, 117 might have them in bigger numbers, so the best approach is go to both and decide which one is your thing. 117 should be tried on a Tuesday and Point on a Wednesday. Weekends? Try Sao Paulo or on a longer shot, Porto Alegre. If you must remain in Rio over the weekend, the only option is a place called The Week, you must be into techno/trance, is also a good pick-up place with plenty of hot boys, however you must be under 35, otherwise don't even bother. Another big change in Rio is the night-life, what was already weak became non-existent. The subway got a lot bigger, if you take into consideration only the Zona Sul (as you should), more than double the extension. The city also became even more violent, the favela tours, compared with ones from the past, became a lot more eventful, so to speak.

Back about 2004 and 2005 there was a wealthy huge fat (at least 450 pounds) older man who used to visit Rio. The man was from Spain. His name was Paco - Some posters here might remember him. He was so huge and fat, it was not possible to guess his age except to know that he was not young. He started his night by having three of his regular "body guards" (strong garotos) accompany him to a gay hustler cafe called Corujinha's, a couple of blocks from the beach in Copacabana. After sitting there a while admiring the hustlers with his garotos, Paco would have the three "body guards" lift him out of his chair and carry him to a waiting truck. From there Paco was taken to Pointe 202 and carried or hoisted up the stairs into Pointe 202. Thus, the above questions asking if someone is too old is not easy to answer when you think about that man named Paco. I have not seen him around since about 2005 and I suspect he no longer goes to Rio or to the saunas. I never see him in Barcelona even though he is from Spain. Did he consider himself too fat or too old? I think not!

Not much has changed since your last visit in 2008, ten years ago. However, Pointe 202 is currently more active and often has many good looking garotos available. Most garotos and clients now have smart phones that were not so popular when you were last in Brazil. That should make communicating with the garotos easier if you know how to use a translator (assuming that you do not speak Portuguese). Also, getting around in Rio is about the same for using the metro but you now have Uber which is quite reliable and convenient and less expensive than cabs. Other than for the city being a little more dangerous than it was ten years ago, you will like the place.

You forgot to mention that it was raining heavily in Sao Paulo today and tonight which kept clients and garotos away from Lagoa. You just happen to catch bad weather. Rain and cold often have an enormous negative affect on clients and garotos going out to the saunas. If you go again when it is not raining or cold, you will most likely have a great time at Lagoa.

I should add that for a first visit, Rio is certainly an absolute must, the scenery (as a big city) can't hardly be beaten by anywhere on earth, but sex-wise, after spending so much money in such long trip a stop in Sao Paulo would make sense, since would not add substantially more expense and could be sexually more fulfilling, depending on personal taste and luck to a certain extent.

Aided by Deep State bureaucrats, Hillary, Soros and Obama are moving toward a coup against Trump, funded by the sale of minors to rich pedophiles. The whole Russian collusion thing was feigned by Trump to create a cover story for the appointment of a special counsel (Mueller) to secretly investigate and expose Clinton and the Democrats. Of course POTUS can't openly acknowledge Q but, by repeatedly referring to the 17 corrupt Democrats supposedly on Mueller's team, Trump was giving the Q guys a secret shout out to encourage their good work. (Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet, dummy. Do I have to explain every little step for you?) This may seem a lot to wrap your head around at first but there's conclusive evidence on the internet (at least for those clever enough to follow the bread crumbs). Watch out Lucky. They're coming for you next. w

You should try reading through the forums for recommendations....everything you need to know has been answered recently Have a great trip

Who's the government to tell me where to fly my plane?

@RA1 whom I love (we have never met but here) are like that all the time. I think his politics are insane, he thinks mine are asinine, yet we have great substance-centered battles here all the time on that topic(s), but with no falling out over any personal difference at all. THAT is one of the many things that is great about this site, and its participants.

Always love giving credit where credit is due.

There may be some closet Libertarians lurking hereabout. Best regards, RA1

Intent matters. I've never had a problem with any forum writer practicing his or her Dorothy Parker. It's often through snark we find the greatest humor in a personality. I enjoy differing personalities, but I especially enjoy those who are gifted with writing humorously. When people are all alike, the party tends to be boring as hell. That said, intent matters when using snark for effect. If your snark is coated in hate, then I say it's fit for the trash bin. Thin-skinned people are more exhausting than dining with vegans. If I'm in the company of a man who can't take a joke, who can't laugh at himself, I think TRUMP. Stay away. I love men with smart humor. The kind of guy who enjoys poking fun at himself. If you're too sensitive, you can't be any fun. I have no desire to see any forum become a wrapped sanitary napkin. A true gentleman's club, one that is fun and successful, should be a lively and exciting place to belong. However, to acquire such spirited conviviality, you need an owner who understands what is important. An owner with a lot of patience. An owner who knows how to cook with just the right recipe of rules. It takes time and a lot of tinkering. IMO, Oz is showing promise. I certainly love the new software design with all the white space. This is good news for us gay men who enjoy a fun escort. My apologies for the hi-jack.

The Press Corps knew how to enjoy a good laugh, and they loved Obama's sense of humor and his talented delivery. But no one fully knew then how thin-skinned and vengeful Trump really was. Not many people knew how racist he was, either. Yet, everyone in New York State knew about the discrimination lawsuits against a few properties, dating as far back as his racist father. That easily explains why NY abandoned Trump in droves. I won't even mention why Wall Street-ers hated him. I suppose they're all loving their tax breaks now. Over one trillion in debt, the fucking hypocrites. Wait until their children and grandchildren are faced with the bill.

You can pre-load Portuguese and many other languages for offline use within Google Translate, whether tablet or phone. Just tap the downward arrow and it will convert to a checkmark when loaded. Also can do it for iPod touch, but you need the smartphone if you want to use Whatsapp in conjunction. Some of the saunas have wifi, not all. Porting an iPad around town puts a big bling target on your back. I only bring mine to Brasil because the larger screen makes navigating airbnb easier.

Boredom.

I think you would settle for one out of every ten? I am not wishing for the human species to be eliminated, just aware of the statistical possibility. As I think we both have agreed, Mama Nature can take care of herself. Abuse her and stand by for contrary results. Best regards, RA1

You haven’t followed properly, @Latbear4blk, but if I understand well, Tom likes to be surrounded by 4 boys, which are at at least R. $ 300 each per overnight.

the other thing is Citi let’s me have $2,000. a day. Brandesco was $800.R per day.... i usually go over that...actually not usually i always do! :-)

FWIW my approach with meetings/dates was always to specify a time and emphasise I meant "la hora britanica". This term is widely understood in Brazil and Argentina to convey that they had to be punctual. For first-time meetings in a public place, I'd also specify that I would wait no more than 10minutes. Generally speaking, guys arrived more or less on time.

That is exactly the problem, the notion of "wasting time". It is a radical difference between the way life and time are understood in many Latin cultures and many Anglo Saxon cultures. I guess you heard about The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, Max Weber's masterpiece. The moment is more important than the future. That is also why sex in so many Latin cultures is more uninhibited than sex in many Anglo Saxon ones.

The most prominent one is “net gay.com.br” on the main page click Erotica then escorts and the city you want. All have multiple photos with erections! there is one member on here that hires from the sites rather then the saunas the few times he has been there, personally you can usually find the same guys at the saunas for 1/3 to 1/2 the price they are asking online. they are all independent so usually you get their whatsapp number.

That may be an overly dramatic characterization of my voice, however, my disdain for a guy like deej can't be overstated enough. It took me awhile to learn what others had been saying for a long, long time. And I found out they were absolutely correct. My list is over six years old. She had more personalities than Sybil back then. She once sent me an email using a fake name to denigrate Oz and the MER site. I still have it. She vehemently denied sending it to me, calling me a liar on the board. When I called her on it by posting a screenshot of the two emails from the same IP address, but with different names, I got banned. I stopped paying attention to that lying, low-rent bitch long ago. I got banned numerous times for publicly criticizing Daddy's mods. If you want to survive there, you definitely don't want to question their tactics or their ethics. None of those assholes scared me. I didn't care if I got banned. Challenging their stupidity was worth it.

I am not sure what you go to Pointe for, @flguy But If you are worried about hygiene, stop going to Pointe 202 to do what most people do: eat ass, kiss guys that have been kissed by 10 other clients and suck cocks that have already fucked 4 times, that very same day. The jacuzzi should be the least of your hygiene concerns.

Rocco, you might turn to demon rum too if you thought the DEEP STATE was slipping a loop of piano wire around your nuts. ----- Rocky that rumor would certainly account all the time Daddy says he is spending re-writing the site's code. Good investigative reporting on your part. Still leaves a lot of loose ends though. So who gets the donations now? Daddy? Deej? Does The Donald have a hidden interest in the site? I like where this is going!

Actually in the US, they don't, unless I agree to it. Agreeing to it generally means flying in the clouds where some entity needs to provide separation. However, using computers, even this is forecast to be returned to the cockpit (as opposed to ground controllers). Best regards, RA1