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I have just read al the comments and i am smiling! First of, this is a escort review site! ESCORT REVIEW! I have been telling various Americans for years when they say they are in love with a garoto that if they are really in love, then they should say to their Brazilian BF “My love i have lost alll my money in the stock market but at least we still have each other!” and watch how fast their ass is out the door! :-) now keeping that in mind, i know for a fact that the sauna guys like anyone, have clients they like better then others even to the point that they(not all)would take less money and go with one person over another! There is a wealthy American that has been going to Brazil for as long as i have and due to his personality and general nature is not liked by the boys or his fellow Americans! He is pompous, Arrogant, etc., makes no attempt to know one word of Portuguese. One day about 3 years ago i ran into him and he says “you know all the guys are asking $200 - $300R now and have been for almost a year! this means he has been paying that much since 2013! when i was sitting with several guys one night at the sauna and he walked in and the guys all universally groaned! i smiled and asked them why ? they said none of them liked him and they all told him their rates were 2 to 3 times what their normal rates were hoping that would discourage him and if he didn’t at least it would make it more bearable to have to be with him! i have over the years learned at least in my case, if i make it as enjoyable as possible for the guys as i can that i want to see on a regular basis it becomes more fun for me too! while i agree with most comments above, i think only a fool would make statements regarding the sauna scene in Brazil without ever having been there as while some generalities can be assumed to be the same worldwide there are definite differences in culture, gay relationships in different non US/Western European countries! as example, in mexico where my last trip, of the 12 guys i was with, 9 we’re free! In SoCal i am dating a 23 yr old off of grindr for over 1 year, my point being it is becoming more difficult at least for me to say in fact “this is the case or you will find..,” That is why i try to always say Imho or in my case or experience...

Excellent post... I remember fondly, 45 years ago, my first trip to Bangkok. While I hired regularly in LA, this was the first time hiring in a foreign country, and the first time I was traveling abroad. I was traveling with an older friend who had been dozens of times. I don't think I could have been more excited. As we came in on final approach, I half jokingly said to him, "Any last words of advice?" He looked at me dead serious, and said, "Yes, keep your wits about you, this ain't LA, and if you get in trouble here, you can't call your lawyer, nobody will care about you, so have fun, but be smart." I asked him if that was it, "No, one more thing, don't fall in love." I laughed, he wasn't. "I'm serious, this is all a game, that's it, it's all just a game. You'll spend two weeks with a boy, and have a fantastic time. He will say all the things you want to hear. Then you'll leave, and before you get to the airport, he'll be in someone else's lap, saying the same things to him, that he just said to you. As long as you understand that, you'll have a ball. Over the years, I was always kind, respectful, and generous. On more than one occasion, I would have a boy leave a client when he heard that I was in town to come and stay with me. I have not been to Brazil, but have done similar in many parts of the world. I do read with great interest, the travels of Tomcal. His posts make you feel as if you were sitting right next to him at some bar, talking to the boys. He is a great contributor here, but I think he gets it. You have to keep everything in perspective. I hire fairly regularly in Fort Lauderdale. I love the stripper boys, but I have no illusions, on any given Saturday night, if I wasn't paying, I doubt they would call. Forty five years later, dozens of country's, thousands of miles, many many paychecks gone, to this day I don't have one single regret for any of it. Except for a few bumps along the way, and a few wrong roads taken, It has been a life well lived. In a recent move, I found a box buried back in the closet. It was a box of old pictures of some of my trips to Pattaya. I found myself smiling, and remembering as if it were yesterday... All the best...

Well I dont shower boys with money, am not offering up a place to crash, and am not the most charming, BUT I always carry a few extra butterscotch candies in my pocket, so I'm able to attract these guys !

I had friends who hired escorts from my agency in NYC many years back. I told them all to NOT fall in love with an escort as once it starts with money, it will always be about money. That said, there are always exceptions. Some boys prefer to go with certain clients and would often do so over greater financial opportunity with others. Part is the way in which they were treated and part was a connection they made with someone. Money or no money, every human makes connections that we do not understand as it is not part of our experience. I have spent time with Tomcal in multiple places and yes, they love spending time with him more than most others in the sauna. They are still there looking for money as it is their job but I have seen many sit with him all night hoping for an invite. That said, some will wander in and out and if another opportunity comes along, they take it and Tom is happy for them. It is often mutual. Everyone has their own experiences and expectations. Back to NYC. I had one client who was such an asshole that I could not get boys to go with him. After repeated calls to book guys, I finally told him the reason. He was floored. He said that it was not true and that this was their job. My response was that job or no job, they have choices and they choose not to go with you. So, this guy was on the other end of the spectrum that all my boys adored and wanted to go with. Treating someone with kindness and respect goes a long way. IMHO

the private club on here “Brazilian and Mexican Guys” is going to become active but membership is limited to known posters(due to photos being leaked to Garotos) by members, and is at my sole discretion! So i apologize if you are not approved immediately but not taking any chances this time around.

Basically what it comes down to is what each of us feels what is safe for Them to do! One reason the sauna scene is safer is all the guys ID’s are on file with the mgt., if you are going to take someone back to your place the chances are better if it is a sauna guy! and letting someone know who you are going with!

It doesn't get much seedier than Selma and Cahuenga back in the day. God bless "The Spot" may she rest in peace. I loved it all. The danger, the street trade, the seediness of it all. Don was the king and the boys were amazing. It is a time that has come and gone. Santa Monica Blvd, the back alleys and back doors that were always open. Looking back, there just wasn't anything like it anywhere. So glad that I was able to live through that time. Friends from New York, Chicago, San Francisco, tell the same stories...It was simply wonderful, but you are right, it wasn't for the faint of heart, and we were lucky...damn lucky really. And apologies to Tomcal. I started reminiscing and got carried away. It won't happen again.

Well sir, I wasnt fighting....just offering up a point of view that wasnt popular amongst some. Not sure why being an individual and having a diff voice is defined here as "fighting"....? Perception definitely needs some work ! How can we expect a country to get along when we cant even get a handful of people to ? and really, none of this has anything to do with participation.....people will continue to do so IF they want to.... A little bullshit wont stop them, but they sure will bitch about it....

Hypocritical, for sure. Sadly, the world (ie: the internet) is full of hypocrites. There's no escaping them. You just have to continually call them out when you've got the energy. It can be very tiring. When you get tired, take a break and treat yourself to something fun.

Not that anyone asked, but I agree that it depends on the person, the parties involved, the place, the time and the circumstances. I have been hiring almost as long as I’ve been messing with guys (the former started in my very early 20s out of college, the latter started in my teens). A few years later, I was working and traveling internationally, and hiring as well as just casual dating / sexing non-hires. Often times, the lines were so blurred, that it was hard to distinguish between what was a date and what was a hire — whether in or out of the USA. One of my all-time favorites was a “straight” guy I met in NYC through a connect who very briefly advertised as a masseur for women. First time, he came over, we both had a great time and connected, and I paid his regular asking massage price. Then, for about once a month for maybe 3 years, he would call me and just want to come over and chill overnight — which always meant sex and sleep. He never asked me for anything else, and I’d only hear from him when he wanted to do this. Our relationship was nothing more, nothing less. Like Tomcal says above about his friend Florida Rob, I also often prefer overnights when I travel. Whenever I travel to Rio or Santo Domingo in particular, I have a few that are waiting to do overnights with me. As much as they may seem to enjoy it as much as I do, I always provide them with a nice, parting presente / regalo in the AM, because (1) I can more than afford it, (2) they can certainly use it, and (3) I prefer doing it. I don’t and never have viewed these exchanges as some sort of measure of someone's unattractiveness, or unloveableness, or inability to love or get a “real relationship” (whatever that is). I have had more than enough false starts at “real love” to know that NOT hurting and actually enjoying yourself feels SO much better, is much better for the soul, and is much more therapeutic. We all know the argument, “but for the money, would they still be there?” I can guarantee you that this question can also be used for subject matter other than money, such as physical appearance. For those who are considered to be nice looking, or for those who are very physically built — but for your looks or body, would some of the men or women that you have dated or met still be interested? If some of the escorts or sauna boys that we pursue had lost their looks or their nice builds — or for those into this, their ability to get or maintain an erection — would we also still be interested? Why would we expect others to behave so saintly and magnanimously when we ourselves have our own selfish, prurient interests in people? A bit hypocritical, is it not?

Free, as a typical Grindr hookup, comes over to the house, a few minutes of small talk and then hop into bed and a hour or 2 later they head home. NO $$, no food, one did ask if I could uber him home and when I checked it was 32 pesos($1.66US) so I agreed to that. Not that I have seen, most guys, Mexicans or Brazilians have a difficult time judging your age if you are over 35 it seems. Nope, Nada, Nothing regarding their expenses for me it is fucking when I am in town, and depending on the time of day, we may go to a bar afterwards but nothing more then 1 or 2 drinks. He prefers dates but setting up specific time for a date is difficult before I arrive so usually it is set up the afternoon of the day. Individual mileage will vary on this, but for me being a Top, is a definite plus as whether I am in Mexico, Brazil, Prague, L.A. there seems to be 9 bttms for every 1 top! I will say that there is someone who does better then me on the free hookups and that is Florida Rob! I have been in Rio different times when he got a guy for a week staying in the apt, free and in the case of one, a top in demand escort who he was with on and off for about 9 years! but that is a long story...In Mexico, I don't think he ever pays, and I have met up with him many nights at bars and he is with the guys! He unlike me likes to make a whole night of these encounters and does very well.

Have known both for a year and both have been a perfect gentleman. Just did not want to insult them with what I was going to pay.

I see very little difference between "paying a boy", and "treating him well with gifts, meals, housing, perks" etc....? In the end, he's with you for GAIN, so dont mislead yourself.... Cut him off, and he'll say ADIOS.....no matter how fierce and charismatic you THINK you are !

'He pursued Pleasure so avidly as to have had the misfortune of catching her.'

Careful, dear. You don't want to jinx yourself and test fate.

That's been my experience. I treat guests very well. I enjoy being quietly generous. A smart escort can feel comfortable confidence. Confidence can be difficult to let go of. It can be infectious. Sometimes the hard part is telling a guy the party is over.

I think they call that entitlement. Escorts can feel it a mile away. Most people refuse to acknowledge what they see in their mirror. Many see Cinderella when it's actually Cruella de Vil. Guys with awful personalities rarely see how awful they really are. Not much different than bad breath. Imagine telling everyone in your face the sad truth 24/7.

But we should be clear that "beauty" isnt always a prerequisite of a trophy. The beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but I have seen some pretty ratched looking boys that these privileged guys covet.... Its really about "control", and the ones they can get what they want from...

YES, Vaseline Alley here in Jackson Heights Queens, the trucks and those abandoned warehouses on the West side Pier, and Fenway Park in Boston in the dead of night... MEMORIES........

Whoa. this has certainly varied from what i intended this post to be! I thought i was just showing a photo of what a typical late afternoon at the apartment is like in Rio! but like most things it has had its share of surprising turns! with that i will say goodnight!

I don’t know you and don’t know your experiences and what kinds of calculated risks that you take, so I cannot comment on what has obviously worked for you. However, I do know that what works best for me may not work best for Tom or may not work best for you. And it especially might not work best for a poster who, unlike me, didn’t grow up hanging out in seedy strips and dealing with street trade in multiple international cities since his late teens, which is about 30 years of experience. There is slight danger in glamourizing scenarios that, for the uninitiated, vulnerable or wet behind the ears, have much greater potential for danger. My personal philosophy is “Life is beautiful. It definitely beats the alternative.” Like a Rorschach blot, that can be viewed any number of ways, even regarding this conversation.

Well Adam, maybe you are part cat and have 9 lives ???? And some people are simply LUCKY....

it is like a car crash off the side of the road and traffic slows to a stop, people don’t enjoy it but they have a need to see the carnage! i don’t think myself this is going to increase participation in the site but rather have the opposite effect! this posts are supposed to be informative not cat fights!

I confess I don't really see the difference between what you said and what I said.

Ja! So "we" are the ones who cannot deal with someone not sharing our views. Yes, sure.

"There is one thing sadder than the guys who think that our escorts are with us just because they love us: the guys who need to remind us that the boys are our for pay lovers when we are celebrating our whores and our relationships with them in an escorts forum." Taken from the Lost Gospels found under the Holly Bed of Our Messiah

Hi. Tomcal, would like to be part of it

I would probably submit initially then revise positions as needed throughout the hour

"Thanks for the invite, but SHOW me the MONEY !"

Fairly dull & unedifying way to live, if you ask me.

Santa Monica and La Brea, where the street trade, tranny hookers and cruisers in cars’ worlds would collide at the Carl’s Jr. 42nd and 8th Ave., or the West Side Highway and Christopher Street. The days when there was a Krystal’s on Peachtree in midtown Atlanta. Areas around various federal statues and libraries in DC. Collins Avenue in Miami Beach. Lower Westheimer and Elgin in Houston. Behind the Cedar Springs clubs to Maple in Dallas. Some downtown Chicago streets whose names I already forgot. Even St. Catherine in Montreal. Yes, Ms. Ann, those days are gone. May these old hot spots and trade-laden blocks Rest In Peace. International travel is the closest thing to this scene, now. (Sorry that your thread was diverted, Tom!)

Or you can periodically SAVE at intervals, then go back within the allowed time frame and EDIT to continue the post., then SAVE again.....

That must be it.

You will observe that, at 58 years of age, I am still here. And enjoying things. What is your life philosophy? If you have one to disclose.

I often would travel with a friend, recently deceased, who had one of the most charming and effusive personalities of anyone I’ve ever met. He was also very handsome — like a retired, refined male model and always has a megawatt smile. He never had much money and always traveled on a tight budget, but he lived for the saunas and hustler bars in other countries. Whenever we were together, a small crowd of hot boys developed. I attributed a lot of that to my friend’s charm, personality and effusive smile winning everyone over — but don’t get it twisted, we did also foot the bill. Now, I am certain that most of these boys would prefer to be with someone who they like and who is also paying them, over someone whose company they either don’t like or just tolerate. My friend was not stupid or naive: he knew that even after all the smiles, laughs and giggles, the boys still expected to be paid and/or to have all their entrance fees, travel, lodging, meals and drinks to be comped. The point is that there are people in the world like my travel buddy (RIP) or Tomcal with the great gift of presence that people just find appealing and want to be around them. But you also do need to give the boys great gifts and presents that they find appealing in order for them to want to stay around you. Money can’t make someone like you (although some good ones can really fake it!).

One has to look no further than Andrew Cunanan, murderer of Versace fame, who targeted and killed several well kept, wealthy men for some sick reason. Opportunity often comes knocking in some strange ways, and struggling people often take the road they think easiest, without THINKING.....

Not quite the same... I pulled "balls".....

Drafts is not something that an admin can just make happen with the software. I do notice that when my computer gets lost I go back to a post and it is there at times. But, whenever do do something really long, I draft on another document first and then paste.

TEN

Hey guys, I’m heading to México City again in two weeks for a quick business trip. 1. I’ll be staying again at the Sheraton Maria Isabela ($110) but wouldn’t mind trying another place in the future. Any ideas? Zone Rosa and the bars etc aren’t my scene so I’m open to other areas that could also produce good results on Grindr. I like big comfortable places where I can be very discreet in bringing guys up to my room without checking them in, etc. Maria isabela is huge and lots of folks are always coming in and out. I usually met them in the lobby. Any other reasonable hotels? 2. Grindr has been great for me in CDMX! It always amazes me how quickly I get responses in México. Very few of the guys I choose (younger European looking) ever flake out and show up fast! That’s why I love CDMX. I’m 6’2”, 220, hairy, German looking, masculine, 50. What doesn’t even get a tap in Miami gets more than I can handle in México. All free of charge too, so far. This time I will actually buy some viagra at the corner farmacia just to keep up! 3. However, I’m not opposed to paying for a good massage ( last time i payed $40 for a decent massage that turned into all out sex)and would be grateful for any recommendations (interactive please). Lets see what happens! Ole

There are currently 10 people viewing this thread at the Same time.... I guess a little controversy makes for strange bedfellows ?

"I do not care about your negativity and lack of sense of humor, disguised as bitter realism". If I'm not mistaken, YOU are the one that wrote THIS comment above, so YEAH, you are !

If you look at the main part of the site, there are no nudes there either. The system now requires G rated images be main profile pics. Some xxx images linger but are removed when found. The site will not have any xxx images on it that non-logged in members can see. Eventually, I think the admins hope to have an app for the site as well. This was just the first stage and more to come in the future. However, notice images and forums are not deleted. They are only moved to places that are not accessible to all audiences. Take a look at GayRomeo's site. You find no XXX images there either. But, members can share private XXX images with others.

I know it is something that may not fit for everyone, but when I told one of the boys from Mezzaninu in Poa that I was moving to Rio, he told me that he really wants to visit Rio and work for some time at 117 or Point... so he proposed that if I pay just his tickets he could stay in my apt for few weeks, and “pay” his staying with sex in the evenings... while he would work in the sauna during the day If you are not jealous to “share” the garoto with other clients during the day, and are more interested in sex and companion in the evenings... that could be a good arrangement as well.

Good points! Setting and Agreeing on their expectations is Key! Also knowing them well(and you)i think is important. I have been doing the Rio invitation to stay at the apartment for 5 years now, where i invite 3 or 4 guys to stay for the week and have not had one regret, in fact the opposite! i now don’t like being alone in the apt or the bed! but we all are different and i can appreciate others views! Going back to costs, $400R a day plus airfare, plus food(entertainment is on them i am too old to enjoy “The Week” or want to hang at the beach for 3 or 4 hours, and that gives them time away from me and for them to visit with friends.) runs about $125./US a day. All of them drink juice rather then alcohol expect on our last night dinner together so that also keeps the overall costs down! anyhow this arrangement works great for me!

i have brought guys from both Belo Horizonte and SP to Rio for a week multiple times and offer $350.R - 400./day plus their airfare(usually around $80.R) and meals.

According to @numazu1 in his post, he pays his GP R250 a day.

If you read my weight loss surgery thread, you know I am working out a bit. Recently, I met this one guy in my gym who is hot and I always smile at him. He is married and his wife is in and out with him all the time. We never talk. But, last week I was in the shower when he came into the shower as well and asked if he could rinse off. I was shocked but said OK. (only one shower in my condo gym). He started washing his body and kept bumping into me. Not a hard thing to do in a small shower. But, he then started jerking off. I was fascinated and just watched. He then thought I was a bottom and his hard dick rubbed against my ass. As an adamant top, I kind of nudged his cock toward my ass. He was more than happy to enter and ended up fucking in the shower. I was happy but sore. Three times I have seen him since and no further instance until today when he knocked at my door. I invited him in and we had some bedroom sex. He likes fucking and getting fucked. He likes oral and eating ass. But, he is not into kissing at all which is a big turn off. However, free sex is free sex. Thailand is fun and sexuality is not the same as America.

First, congratulations on the "working out." I know from personal experience the profoundly fruitful effect of exercise on the body after weight loss. The positive effects of exercise can't be talked about enough. Thank you for sharing your experience with hot locker room sex. Brought up many fond memories of my own experiences. I've been a gym member for most of my adult years. When I lived a life on-the-road in my early career, I never stayed at a hotel that didn't have some type of gym facility or wasn't affiliated with a great one nearby. Having no desire to compete, if I had the time to share all of my sexual antics in a gym, I could probably write a book. I may do it one day and call it, "SEXCAPADES with RH." Some of the hottest sex I've had were chance encounters that I could never have anticipated. When they happen, I always ask myself, "Am I living in a porn movie?" My most recent encounter was with the D.J. Augustin type. I mentioned it in some thread about pilot photography, and that went over well. Oz, it's a good thing your username isn't RH. The trolls would be going ape-shit, calling you all kinds of names. I have a feeling I'll see the D.J. type again. I'll report back if I do and if something happens again. The most disturbing yet exhilarating experience I've ever had involved a visit to a new doctor. The health care industry in NYC is full of gay men, and what fun it can be when your gay PCP recommends you to a gay specialist, and that specialist is turned on by the sight of you naked. When I have time, I'll come back and write more. Although, my sex-with-a-doctor story doesn't involve any Asian men. I hope that doesn't cause a need for a "split" thread. Does it help that one of my doctors happens to be Asian? He's not part of this story, but maybe the one degree of separation will help avoid a "split."

It's OK, this aint the first time you've offended me !