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After few minutes this guy was totally dressed waiting for me in the entrance - oh my gosh, what I do ?? - well, the guy didnt look so bad, so I decided to accept his proposal, however he was not really what I was looking for. I asked again if he was willing to do everything he promissed, and he confirmed. Just after we left the sauna, he told me that he was very hungry, he had just breakfast.. I said ok, and we went to have dinner close by (+R$60) - ok, that was not a problem. When we were finally arriving to my hotel, he told me that he would have to drink something before, in order to be a better bottom (seriously??)... again I said ok - we walked for 15 min until finding a bar. He had 4 or 5 caipirinhas and beer, when he started flirting with the 60yo lady from the next table, I decided that it was time to leave ( +R$120 - what a mistake that I didnt leave him as well). Arriving to the hotel, he went for a shower, after 15 min he came to the bedroom... and started asking if I could pay more , he wanted at least more R$50 - I was alredy pissed of, so I said NO, and that I would pay him R$150 for his time, and that he could leave (maybe I was even too generous in this offer) - he started to say that he really needed the money, he would not leave and would make what we agreed for 200 - he was clearly drunk. He then said that before we start, he would need some porn - while I was in the bath - he then bought 4 straigh porn movies from hotel pay-per-view (i coudnt get more pissed of ). Then he starts pushing me to suck him - i tell that we agreed is that I would fuck him, again he asks me to wait a bit, because "soon he would get horny enought to bottom"... after 15 min watching porn and jerking - he cummed!!! (Again - WTF!!) - I was so pissed that I just wanted to get rid of him - so I paid the 200, and asked him to leave. He asked to use the bathroom again. Finally when he left I went to take a shower, and then I realized that my brand new perfume was missing!! (+R$ 250). I dont want to discourage you guys, but PLEASE always be careful about who you hire. Now I see that I was too fool!! As as said, I have been to more than 50 escorts, but this was by far the worst experience.

Thanks for posting about your experience at Lagoa. It’s interesting to hear your perspective as a Brazilian and Portuguese speaker. -Some “elite” Lagoa boys can definitely be arrogant/rude. Most of these are looking for high-end clients. Some probably assume because of your age you don’t have money or won’t be worth their time. Garotos often view younger clients suspiciously at first, because in their minds they can’t understand why you would pay for sex. -In Lagoa it is fairly common for some of the guys to stick to their 150 real asking price - even though they don’t appear to be busy at all. I thought they just did that with foreigners, so it is interesting to know they also do that with Brazilians. -Pitching a fit just because you offered a lower price is diva behavior. He could have politely just stuck to his 150. I had a Lagoa guy throw a tantrum once because I was getting a regular room, and he was “offended” that I wasn’t taking him to a suite. This kind of behavior is so off-putting that I lose all interest, no matter how hot they are. -In general, I would never consider taking a garoto for a longer period/overnight without first going for a “test drive” in the cabin. You just never know how good they will be in bed or if the chemistry will be there. -The guy you took sounds like a real scammer. 4 different pay per view porns!? So ridiculous lol. I’m surprised he was that bold with someone who spoke Portuguese! I have also had a garoto use the cum-before -actually-having-sex trick. It’s a common scam. In my case, the garoto came within the first 3 minutes of the programa, and then said, well you asked for goza, and tried to act like he was confused why I was upset (he knew exactly what he was doing). -A lot of the guys at Lagoa are great, so I think you just got unlucky this time around. If you try a few more of them you will find some good ones..

All rather than criticizing and berating this poster, we should appreciate that he is willing to share his mistake openly for other avoid. We we all think with our little head at times and make choices that aren’t the best. So instead of being holier than thou, lets use his experience as a learning one.

First of all, thank you for the great amount of info posted on this forum, I can say with no doubt that there is much more info in this forum concerning saunas in Brazil than in any other website/forums from Brazil. Since I am a local, I think this review about Lagoa might be interesting for you, maybe it will serve to dismiss some misconceptions (like the one that locals always are charged less lol), and to warn you about some risks. I am not a newbie in escorts scene, I am just 30 yo, but I have been with dozens of escorts in more than 5 countries (I know that for some guys in this forum, those numbers are peanuts :D), however it was just to mention that I am not so inexperienced, BUT STILL susceptible to be fooled. Usually I have guys coming to my place. But after visiting Thermas Mezzaninu em Porto Alegre for several times, going to saunas became one of my favorite things… This week I am in Sao Paulo for a Trade fair, so I decided to visit Lagoa, maybe the most famous sauna in Brazil (I know some people will disagree). The Sauna is really nice and big, it was on a Wednesday, and there were 2 boys for each client I would say… I stayed in the bar area for a drink, and was approached by several boys, some of them being very pushy, what was annoying sometimes. However, none of them was really my type. In Porto Alegre the guys are not that pushy from my experience, and actually in many times I have to go after the boys there (a garoto in PA once told me that I look too young, so the some boys suppose that I am not there to hire, but just to look… really??). Suddenly I saw a guy that was exactly my type, tall, kind of Italian/Spanish, nice chest, black hair. He was never approaching anybody, just standing close to the bar and talking to other boys (ok, maybe the kind of garoto that feels like AAA, and don’t look for clients), after some time observing him, I saw that he went to the second floor for the TV room, quickly I left my beer and another pushy guy behind, and went to meet that Zeus. At the second floor there were 3 guys jerking, and all of them came to offer their services, I was afraid that I have missed my new crush, but after politely refuse the 3, I found him – jerking in the TV room (not really dotado), but still cute. He was very nice, we chatted for a bit, he told that he is from Porto Alegre (that’s why I love Porto Alegre) – but he told me he never work as garoto em PA, since his family also lives there – I stated that I am top, he was a bit surprised (what?? I feel so macho lol), but confirmed to me that he had no problems with that – Price 150…. I was thinking for a bit, and as many people advised me – don’t pay more than 100 – I proposed if he accepted 100, we could go immediately to the room…. Surprisingly, the guy was totally offended (or pretended to be). He told me that I could ask anything else, but to propose 100 for him was outrageous!! (WTF???) – Then he left. Come on, there were 2 boys for each client, and he didn’t have any client before me, since I was stalking him, but this guy was really taught - if he was not so arrogant, I would pay the 150. With a broken heart, I went back to bar area - again a very annoying pushy guy from Rio… I got rid of him, and another guy came – not a nice body, but with beautiful green eyes and a nice face. He was very polite, and invited me to his table for the bingo, I said I would go latter, but I did not… decided to check the other areas again. This guy with green eyes managed to find me again after bingo, he said that he would like to leave the sauna, and proposed that he could go to my hotel and stay around 3-4 h with me for 200 (seems to be a very good proposal). He also said that he was straight, but would be no problem for him to be bottom - He even showed me his hairy butt and asked me if I like it. I said that I would think about that, but the guy took this reply as a “yes”, and went to change clothes (here the problem begins) – Next Post.

Yes, I think I made it clear that it was a mistake... i didnt tell all the details, but the guy was very friendly, very good with his conversational skills, and as I said I never invited him to my hotel, he managed the situation for that (of course it was my fault to be fooled by him), however as I said he played very well in the situation when he came to me to propose to go to my hotel - I clearly said that I would think about that (in portuguese: Eu vou pensar no caso) - then he went to change clothes, and when I saw him again he was dressed in the entrance saying that he was ready waiting for me. I know it was a game, but at the moment I was sorry thinking that maybe I was not sooo clear that I was not interested... well so I decided to take the offer, just to "not waste" my night, and asked him to wait for 15 min. I went back to the sauna to look for the first pretty (and arrogant) guy, to say that we could see in the next day in the sauna, but I didnt manage to find him again. During the night I tried to finish the "programa" a couple of times, as I mentioned , but he was not willing to leave at all... anyway I wanted to share this experience to show that even locals, even experienced people get fooled - so dont feel too sorry if you are fooled a couple of times as well. Please Take precautions, those that I didnt... always try the guy first in the sauna before getting them to the hotel. In some ways I think you guys have an advantage if you dont speak Portuguese, usually the negotiations are much more simple and clear. Some of the guys are very good in the conversation, so portuguese speakers are more susceptible to that.

Facebook and Dell computers both have offices in Sao Paulo, with lots of openings when I checked recently (Dell currently has over 90 jobs posted in the Sao Paulo office). I have a friend who works for Dell, and he is stationed in Costa Rica, so it's definitely possible to work for an American company and make US wages while living elsewhere.

For me, I don't get hung up on the money. If they want a bit more than normal, that is OK for me if I really like them. But, I then don't see them again and tell them the reason the next time. They always then go to regular price. I was much easier when I was a known quantity. However, prices vary based on desire. One guy at Lagoa wanted 300R and I refused. I regretted it ever since.

Sand is a Bitch, especially when it ends up in your butt crack Butt many people find it has magic powers when they are trying to avoid things. (like comments on this site)...

I'll try my very best to find that special thing !

Brazil's President Temer threatened to bring in the army to clear the roads. Here is another update about the strike - https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-latin-america-44258652 Another thing, Airlines posted this travel waiver for Brazil. Notice that UA's waiver extends until June 3 - Civil unrest - Brazil (American Airlines) If you’re traveling to/through/from: Belo Horizonte, Brazil (CNF) Brasilia International, Brazil (BSB) Manaus, Brazil (MAO) Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (GIG) São Paulo, Brazil (GRU) The change fee may be waived if you: Are traveling on an American Airlines flight Bought your ticket by May 24, 2018 Are scheduled to travel May 24 - 29, 2018 Can travel May 24, 2018 - June 3, 2018 Don't change your origin or destination city Rebook in the same cabin or pay the difference Current as of Saturday, May 26, 2018 8:27 AM Central. Information is updated as it is received. Please visit Today's Operations for the current status of our operations. Travel waivers currently in effect Event Travel to/from/connecting through Original travel date(s) Additional information Brazil Industrial Action Airports: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (GIG) Sao Paulo, Brazil (GRU) Original travel date(s): May 25, 2018 - May 29, 2018 Flight changes: The change fee and any difference in fare will be waived for new United flights departing between May 25, 2018, and June 3, 2018, as long as travel is rescheduled in the originally ticketed cabin (any fare class) and between the same cities as originally ticketed. For wholly rescheduled travel departing after June 3, 2018, or for a change in departure or destination city, the change fee will be waived, but a difference in fare may apply. Rescheduled travel must be completed within one year from the date when the ticket was issued.

But just to make it clear that despite of my unfortunate experiences, I really loved Cuba, and I had a lot of fun, it is a true cultural experience!

I dont know WHAT I was thinking wasting my time posting all those pics of Cock & Ass when THIS is just so much more FUN ? We should re-title this website FAMILY FEUD !

I visited Thermas last week for the first time. Very interesting experience. Lots of GP - some very hot. I spoke to an Egyptian and had a nice experience with a young Cuban. But to be honest, I don't think this scene was for me. I didn't like the setting and found the guys coming up to me to be a bit pushy (which I expected - it was obvious that I was a newbie!). I definitely prefer the bar/club set-up of Thailand. But I would still encourage anyone who hasn't been here to visit. I'm glad I did. You will most likely find something of interest to you.

There will be no coup! The truckers and the government reached a temporary agreement for fifteen days to unblock the highways. Those planning to visit Brazil after the temporary agreement ends, stayed tuned with Brazil news so that you do not get caught up in the strike, if the strike is resumed. Here is the latest news on the strike and the fifteen day agreement to unblock the roads: http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/brazils-government-and-protesting-truck-drivers-reach-agreement/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRioTimes+(The+Rio+Times) Even today, after the agreement, the streets are almost empty of traffic. This is because the truckers would not deliver fuel to gas stations. People with cars could not buy gas to drive. Here is a medley of various reporting on the strike that almost ruined my stay here: Truck drivers' strike paralyzes Brazil Los Angeles Times 4 hours ago Brazil president says striking truckers could be removed ABC News 1 hour ago Brazil authorizes army to clear trucker protest Reuters 4 hours ago More for status of trucker strike in brazil? Brazil schools close as truckers' strike enters fifth day - ABC News https://abcnews.go.com/.../brazil-schools-close-truckers-strike-enters-day-55433784 1 hour ago - A nationwide strike by thousands of truckers brought much of Latin America's largest nation to a halt on Friday, prompting Brazilian President ... Truck drivers' strike paralyzes Brazil - Los Angeles Times www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-brazil-truck-drivers-strike-20180525-story.html 4 hours ago - Thousands of Brazilian truckers angry over fuel price hikes blocked roads Friday, the fifth day of a strike that led thousands of schools to close, long lines to form at gas stations and several flights to be canceled. The strike continued despite a deal reached late Thursday ...

You can keep your blue eyes boys. I like you because we are not going to fight for one of them.

Just wanted to drop a note about Bogota. I was there a few weeks ago and it was my first time in this city, but not Colombia, having visited Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla, Santa Marta and Cali before, so I am very familiar with the country at least. What has helped with my travels in Colombia has been getting to know an actual Chaturbate studio (and have visited numerous times), and because of that I have been sifting through its models to be my companions in my travels in Colombia. When I’m discovering a city for the first time, I always like to have a constant companion with me, preferably someone who speaks the language to discover the city with me. Interestingly (unlike my experience with garotos in Brazil), through this studio, I don’t pay the boys any money per se, but I do take them to the occasional shopping spree, plus of course providing all food and transportation. I think it is because I started right with the first cam model in this studio I went out with, and subsequent boys have followed suit. Of course I will get the occasional plea for money when I am home, but I just say no. The disadvantage in having someone there all the time is it is hard to meet other boys to have sexy time with you when you are with your chosen boy for the trip. But I can hardly complain, as these Chaturbaters are really sexy and eager to show you a good time. Lately I have been spending a lot of time with two Colombians, ages 23 and 24, and boyfriends who only do duo broadcasts on Chaturbate (and Cam4). They seem to be the perfect combination of hotness, generosity with their bodies, with a healthy dose of humility and easy-going demeanor. They let me stay in their apartment one weekend, and they always insist that I sleep in between them, for maximum contact. It is such an amazing arrangement, but it can get awkward sometimes when you have to get out of bed to pee. You either have to roll over one of the boys, or get out of the bed the long way in the middle. But again, hardly a deal breaker. Sex with both is always great and satisfying, and having each sexual encounter be a threesome is always a production (three times the cumming, all three need to be showered, etc). Bogota has always been a dream destination for them. As “Costeños” they were used to the constant sunshine of the Caribbean coast. They were excited to visit what they call “the refrigerator,” due to Bogota being colder and grimmer than the coast due to its altitude. Before the trip, I promised to bring them old sweaters and jackets I had in storage back home that I haven’t worn in a while. They insisted on taking the arduous 18-hour or so bus ride to Bogota from the coast, due to one of the boy’s fear of flying, so they left their home hours before I had to hop on my flight from California. I was glad I brought the sweaters and jackets for the two boys. They got to the AirBNB safely, but were freezing their asses off, even though it was only 65F (18 C). The AirBNB unit I rented did not have a heater, the same as most apartments and hotels in Bogota, so the boys snuggled up to me in bed and the couch, which worked for me of course. Days were much better for them, as It was warmer, but they still had to bundle up when leaving the house, and I also had to buy them some gloves and beanies, which was readily available from street vendors for cheap. Some points: 1. I was kind of surprised by how Metropolitan Bogota was. It is not as modern as Medellin, but the pace of the city was much faster than the more laid-back coast. During the day the city had an army of workers who filled the offices, and it was kind of a nice change of pace from more tourist-oriented towns. 2. My Uber driver from the airport to my AirBNB was a tall, muscular and hot Bogotano was also a firefighter. Spoke very little English but very accommodating with my broken Spanish and talked slowly enough for my American ears to understand. Good start to the trip, and his hotness got me worked up for my boys. 3. The AirBNB I rented did not have any issues with my two companions staying with me, and I can imagine them not having any problems if instead I had a rotating harem visiting me constantly in the building. The security, though fairly cautious, seem to be very laid-back. View of the front of the building, with a drumline celebrating… something: 4. The neighborhood we stayed at was in Chapinero, and I was unprepared on how gay it was. Opening Grindr was like seeing a Christmas tree light up. The boys were checking Grindr as well and got inundated with offers from locals to meet. If I were to guess, the boys who messaged me constituted of 40% boys looking for customers, and 60% were just regular locals wanting to hookup, 30% of which what I would consider hooking up with. I will need to go back here alone to take advantage of the boys: 5. Speaking of gay, I purposefully picked an AirBNB that was close to the gay bars. I was surprised that the apartment building was just across the street from not one, but three gay bars, and in the same block as 4 others. And we saw the occasional gay couple holding hands in the streets. It was really gay central, complete with a rainbow crosswalk: 6. Another surprising benefit of staying in gay central Chapinero, is that it was relatively safe to wander the streets at 4 AM without fearing for our safety. Granted, there were 3 of us every single time when we walked the streets, but we did not have any problems stumbling out of a bar at the usual ungodly hour, and to look for late-night snacks around Chapinero. We did not have to take any Ubers and appreciated the relative safety of the neighborhood. 7. Even if Bogota is a proper world city, it still had relatively third-world prices for the most part, cheap food readily available and super delicious. The boys insisted in indulging my request to eat authentic Colombian food. I certainly was not disappointed here. And having soup in the morning is a good counter for the cold: 8. There are a lot of things to do in the city, if you are bored with all the indoor sweaty activities. Highlights for us were the Gold Museum, which was free on Sundays (most museums are free on Sundays): and the mountain Montserrate, which had a church on top of it, which we took a cable car to get up to: 9. Sadly, I did not have the opportunity to check out the saunas. Maybe next time. 10. And finally, and probably the highlight of our trip (apart from the sex, of course), was visiting Theatron, the legendary gay bar in Chapinero. Saying it is a bar, of course, does not describe the venue accurately, because Theatron is really 13 bars in one: it was this large stadium type dance hall: surrounded by 12 other gay bars, each with its own theme and vibe: We all agreed that Threaton was a destination on to itself, and the sheer variety of what you can find in the place deserves multiple trips back. We only had time to go on a Saturday night, and there was a tremendously long line of energetic party-goers trying to get in, but once we paid the 35,000 COP ($12) entry fee, which included a hard plastic cup we used to get our unlimited drinks (between 10 PM and 2 AM), we took advantage of the various venues the place had. Traditional dance tunes, electronica, latino music, trance, chill music, you name it, they had it. But probably the crowning jewel of the place was in the 4th floor, which was a men’s only floor. We did not know why women weren’t allowed until we saw this: I will definitely go back to Bogota, possibly alone next time. There is so much more to see.

I'm of two minds on this. Having been on both sides of this equation, I would say that I very well might have been offended if someone tried to negotiate my price. I've definitely developed a "fuck right off" attitude for someone who didn't want to pay $200 for an hour. However...in Brazil, it seems that it is more common to negotiate. But you never know who you are talking to the first time you meet them. You have to allow for human variables. Maybe he really did think you were disrespecting him by offering less than he asked for (and his disappearance/unavailability after the incident would support this--if it were just a game, he would have moved a short distance away so you could approach him and offer more). Or maybe he was just acting offended. The truth is, for a small amount of extra money, you could have found out whether he was good in bed or not. Instead, you had a miserable night with someone you weren't attracted to, and who truly was playing you.

Applying the learning is of course a different thing.

I was very happy to hear your report. Sorry you made some mistakes and had a night of disappointment! Everything that came after seems to have been a result of you balking at the price the Adonis quoted you. That's why I sometimes agree to pay a slightly higher price than I had anticipated...just to "keep the ball rolling", and not run into any snags. I would have paid 50 reais just to avoid that night you described!

It is a good story that happens to all of us. Thank you for sharing. As for others not understanding why you put yourself in this situation, it is easy to do when you are horny and you never know the full outcome. I was in Rio with IhpGuy and he told me this one sauna boy was great and I'd like him. But, I was not really attracted to him that much but enjoyed chatting. I went with him and he blew my mind for sex. I saw him multiple times. It is not always just an initial attraction but what they do afterwards that is important. Another one, I took the most stunning guy I remember meeting in Rio to my hotel for a two days. But, the sex was horrible on the first night. I took him shopping the next AM, paid for the 2 days and told him I had to leave for a bit. He got paid and I didn't have to worry about more bad times or experiences. Like your date, he was into porn and me watching pussy while having sex was a real turn off. Shit happens. It sucks. We learn and don't do it again. Well, I did a few more times over the years but I learn a bit each time.

Thank you. At 12 they actually raised the cover to $30 and the lines got longer to get in. update: B, my Marine above, was working and said he made very, very low tips. I told him after someone waits in line for 45 minutes to pay $30 cover they do not feel like fucking tipping.

Yes, indeed. We have a new poster here, a local who can easily help us with information we might not get ourselves. So I say, Welcome to the forum, Latindude! I am sorry to hear of your experience, but glad you came here to inform us. I look forward to more posts from you. Thanks for joining in!

I think I met the same guy the poster was referring to. Was he wearing a cap? I was in Lagoa last Saturday night and met the guy who I think the poster was referring to. He wore a baseball cap when I met him, not the leanest body but nice face and nice eyes. He showed me around the sauna when I told him that I' was a newbie. He told me that he also speaks Spanish, which I speak very little of. Despite the language barrier, I find him very friendly and sincere. He almost had me under his spell but when he offered to go to my hotel room, I said no because (a) i wasn't that into him (b) i had my top 5 garotos and he's not even on my top 10, LOL. When he asked me to buy him a drink at the bar, I pretended not to understand what he said, then I thanked him and walked away to pursue other garotos. Sorry that you have to part with so much money. And that brand new perfume. Agh..

I hooked up in A4A and did not go. I am too old to go out after a hot fuck. I am happy I didn't, I hate long lines and overcrowded places. If that is the prospect, I am not going on Monday either. Your Argentinian toy's body is very tempting. I think I can cover his face with the national flag and do it for the Motherland.

Several major mistakes were made here by the poster, which could have been avoided (easy to say in hindsight, I know). But the one that stands out the most: You emphasize several times that you weren’t that particularly attracted to the garoto, but you voluntarily invited him back to your hotel, anyway? That’s a whole lot of trouble to get into, just for a guy that you are only moderately into.

I suppose if one has a split or multiple personalities then one could be construed as many. Best regards, RA1

You are right. A tech glitch allowed this with the upgrade. Now reversed! It takes something really special to be sent to oblivion in the Sandbox.

Sorry about the delay. I did find my job quite easily. Being able to speak an at least average portuguese helped quite a bit. To people asking about what kind of job I am doing....I work in the IT field. What mvan said is correct...it you wanna go to Brazil to work as a waiter, it's not going to happen. Visa policies are pretty strict. But if you have a good background and your profile is interesting and you work in a field where there's a lack of highly demanded specialized professionals. The job will find you. I should also say that I do have a nationality which legally helps a lot in Brazil due to the historical friendship between the 2 countries.

I like my testorone-charged trans men with a very penis-like engorged clit.

Have a Happy & SAFE Weekend - love, Grandma

To Each their Own, right ?

'If the idea is not at first impossible, then there is no hope for it.' Einstein

But does one not customarily take one's pants down before commencing the Big Squeeze? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/poopy-pants/

LOL...I can't even semi-squat on the throne. It's more like a controlled fall.

It looks like I am going to Secrets/Ziegfield’s tonight. Anyone in the DC area is also planning to attend? @tassojunior?

I like Aldi's and shop there as well as Pulblix often. Like anything and anywhere else, you just have to know what you prefer that they offer. Some pooh pooh their beef and obviously do not understand that vac packaged beef has to bloom (be exposed to the air) before it looks how one expects beef to look. I learned all this stuff while taking clients to IBP (Iowa Beef Processors) back in the day (around 1980). Best regards, RA1

As tourists to Brazil, why do we care about the truckers strike? The international airport at Sao Paulo (GRU) and the international airport at Rio (GIG) are many miles (kilometers) to and from the cities. There is no metro to and from the airports. THE MAIN ROADS AND HIGHWAYS ARE BLOCKED BY THE TRUCKERS - We as visitors to Brazil will have trouble getting to and from the airports. Flights can be missed. It could take hours to get into town following a long flight. Or hours getting to an airport only to arrive too late, thus missing a flight. Clearly, anyone on this forum who visits Brazil can be negatively affected - particularly those visiting now or soon. As a side note, I am in Brazil. Even taking Uber or a cab to the saunas is slowed down because many major highways and streets are blocked. A ride to Lagoa that normally takes about twenty minutes took more than one and one-half hours tonight with the driver using side streets to get around some of the traffic and blocked roads. Check out this articled that was just published: https://www.enca.com/money/brazil-close-to-paralysis-as-truckers-press-on-with-strike Brazil close to paralysis as truckers press on with strike MONEY Thursday 24 May 2018 - 11:16pm Truckers prepare a barbecue as they block the Imigrantes highway SP-160 during a protest against high diesel fuel prices in Sao Paulo, Brazil May 24, 2018. Photo: Reuters BRASILIA - Brazil appeared on the verge of a standstill on the fourth day of a nationwide truckers' strike Thursday as road blockades caused severe shortages of fuel and food, despite a move by the state-owned oil company to defuse the crisis. Airports and gas stations were running out of fuel, food prices were spiralling and agricultural exports were hit. Truckers have attempted to put a stranglehold on the movement of goods in Brazil to protest fuel price rises. The increases are the result of a politically sensitive decision made in late 2016 to allow the Petrobras oil giant autonomy over its pricing, as well as a rise in world prices in recent weeks. But the determination of the truckers has caught centre-right President Michel Temer's government flat-footed, five months ahead of presidential elections. Petrobras yielded to pressure on Wednesday and temporarily reduced fuel prices, sending its shares plunging more than 13 percent on the Sao Paulo stock market by late Thursday afternoon. But the truckers Thursday were still blocking main arteries in 24 of the 27 states in the vast country, which has only limited rail services. In the port of Santos near Sao Paulo -- the largest in Latin America -- there have been virtually no arrivals or departures of trucks for three days, the management said, even if the "loading and unloading operations of ships continues normally" for now. In the capital Brasilia, the airport was allowing only planes to land that had enough fuel to take off again. Five other airports including Recife in the northeast and Congonhas in the economic capital of Sao Paulo, fuel reserves could run out on Thursday, the G1 news site said. Various abattoirs have also halted operations, affecting a key export sector. A one-off measure Prices of fruits and vegetables were rocketing in some places to 400 percent, due to supply problems. Pump prices were also higher, and long lines formed at many gas stations. A spokeswoman for Rio's fuel retailers' union Sincomb told AFP that the main service stations were last supplied on Monday. "There is a lack of fuel in practically all the service stations that we have contacted," she said. As a way of defusing an increasingly out-of-control situation, Petrobras Wednesday announced a temporary price reduction of 10 percent. "It is a one-off measure. It doesn't represent a change in pricing policy," Petrobras chief Pedro Parente told journalists. "These are 15 days for the government to reach a deal with the truckers." But the head of the Abcam truckers' association, Jose de Fonseca Lopes, was unimpressed. "It is not what we need,", he told CBN radio. Temer is to meet with truckers' representatives late Thursday, following the failure of talks on Wednesday. The movement appeared to have some popular support. "I think that this has been provoked by poor management by the federal government," said Ana Maria Lobo, a driver waiting in line at a gas station in Sao Paulo, who also noted "all these corruption scandals." In another temporary measure, the lower house of congress decided late Wednesday to suspend the introduction of two taxes on diesel until the end of the year. If the Senate approves the measure Thursday, the truckers "are ready to suspend the movement" said Fonseca Lopes. But the spokeswoman of the National Transport Confederation (CNT) told journalists Thursday that blockades would continue until the president signs the measure into law. The proposed suspension of the diesel taxes has sparked tensions within the government. "There is no agreement yet. I am not against it but I would like to know where the money is coming from," said the minister in charge of relations with parliament, Carlos Marun. AFP

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I think that when you ask the price and subsequently attempt to drill it down, YOUR positioning is going to be seen as somewhere between confidence and arrogance. When you are the one opening the bargaining pass, you have to accept that perhaps he who speaks first loses. You already knew the product met all your criteria and the inventory was low. Similarly, the other party's response is going to be viewed by you as somewhere along that continuum. This is the case when what is value driven grinds against what is price driven. The garoto's apparently arrogant or dismissive response may simply be a positioning tool not particularly linked to ego. It is possibly mostly performative, and may have worked better in the past compared to the calm confidence some customers prefer. Or it may be just a shooting gallery where the ultimate outcome is one or more feet being shot. As some have said, the house trend is to uptick from the arbitrary 100 standard. Leaving sure cash on the table becomes more common in the interests of that long-range end. Let that apparent lack of logic go if it is not working. If you already know you want to pay 100 and many will accept it, why request the price as if you were in the dark? Why not use your own offer as the jumping off point? You can frame it as your understanding of what is possible or has been experienced. Then it is less personalized and you may get a slightly better read on his positioning motives. If he is emotionally reactive (real or "put on") to this more neutral approach, I think your assessment of his stance may be more accurate. Better that he inflate your open-ended front-end offer than you deflate his bottom-line fee. Or just listen to everyone else and rigidly stick to 100 and swallow what you get.

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