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I think this was one of the first X videos i ever bought! the 2nd was Kristen Bjorn's "Carnival in Rio" around 1991 or '92 and one of the guys on the cover i thought was the most stunning guy i had ever seen!*(the one on the right in the cover photo), and i knew i had to get to Brazil one day! About a year later i was having Sunday brunch with a friend in Weho and sitting at the table next to us was the guy on the left in the cover photo! I remember thinking "i have to get to Rio once before i die!" LOL

Back around 2005 or so, I was in 117 trying to seal the deal as it were with the latest love of my life for the evening when all of a sudden there was a commotion going on, with a lot of boys running toward the main lounge. Word was that Calvin Klein was there, and he was giving away free underwear. Now whether or not this was true, I don't know, as I never actually saw him, but my garoto ran off leaving me to find out, never to return. I decided then and there that I hated Calvin Klein! To add insult to injury my cologne of choice at the time was Eternity by Calvin Klein.

Having a threesome with real twins is a dream which so far never came true. I had some sessions with one of the Peters twins in Prague (Milo) who was very good looking but never managed to get both. The Peter twins were the first to have sex together in porn movie (one is gay and the other str8). I would also have loved also having time with the Hungarian Visconti triplets ...

This is my experience: Rio 117/202: Most guys accept 100 even if some ask 150. I usually make clear that a gozada will be required. Usually they will accept 120 to cum. Rarely i have been asked 150 from the hottest guys (gozada inclusive). Never paid more. The guys have good memory about how much you paid them the first time. That will be your rate with them. Forever. This is valid also for São Paulo For overnights I have paid an average of 320. Some did ask even 200, some did ask 500 which quickly became 350. SP Lagoa All of the guys will begin asking at least 150. The most demanded will ask 250. It is possible to get to 120 with cum, but the average is 150 (even from the hottest ones). There are some guys who will not go for less than 200. Overnights cost: average of 450. The least I have been asked is 350. The most 800.

I always bring small presents (North American team baseball caps are always welcome), to the sauna bar staff at 117, Point, Lagoa and Fragata that I have gotten to know over the years. I give them cash tips too and take them out for lunch from time to time when special occasions came up. They did not return them with sexual favour nor did I expect any though I got commendation from them to boys they have become chummy with. I also brought with me packages of those Listerine breath tapes that I hand out like candies even to those who do not need them. I am not Japanese but I understand they have a tradition of bringing gifts (usually food specialties, in their case) from whatever places they have been visiting to friends and colleagues to foster goodwill and pleasantness in the workplace. I always ask for a doggy bag too whenever I ate out and give them to street kids who invariably ask for money for drinks to wash down the free dinner.

I have a friend who has been going to Rio since 2002 and always brings 40 or 50 prs of underwear and another couple dozen baseball caps,, and he has NEVER gotten free sex! the boys love his presents and they thank him profusely, they still charge him full rate! I don't get it but he keeps doing it. If i remember correctly he told me he spends about $800. each trip for these "gifts" and gives them out in the locker rooms of the saunas. plus another couple hundred for excess luggage to bring all this crap on the plane down!

Annie, I didnt know you were from Compton ?

Unfortunately, I am NOT available this weekend.... I have an appt for liver-spot lasering.

We dont get those "fancy" flavors up here in my low class hood.... The best we get is honey Bar-B-Q

Sao Paulo is not a city you fall in love with at first sight. It has a gritty urban feel, a color palate best described as gray and dingy, and the hustle and bustle of a fast -paced city. There are no beaches or mountains to dazzle you with their beauty. But over time a curious thing happens - you start to discover neighborhoods that you like, a certain charming resturaunt here and there. You meet amazing people, develop friendships, and suddenly an unexpected fondness for the city emerges. No, it will never be Rio. But I have learned to appreciate the city for what it is.. After 88 days in Brazil it’s time to go back to the US. I have no choice, actually: my e-visa is expiring and can’t be renewed. If I get my visa issues worked out, I might return in December or sometime next year. In the meantime, I’ll be keeping in touch with various garotos on whatsapp and enjoying reading whatever pictures, stories and/or unique reasons for needing money that they might send

Come on, let's be fair. Garotos have expenses for travel to the sauna and must pay sauna admission. Some garotos live a long distance from a sauna and spend a lot of travel time. I know some garotos who travel more than two hours each way to a sauna. While a garoto is in a sauna, he is spending his time. The expense to get to the sauna and to enter the sauna and to wait around hunting and hoping for a client, means that a garoto puts in more than just a few minutes or even one hour to make his money. Don't forget, some garotos go to a sauna and do not meet a client. Those garotos are out the expenses for travel and entrance plus their wasted time. There are the special garotos that get many clients in a night. Those are not the typical garoto. While it might seem like a garoto is making money for little time and effort, it is only an illusion. We must factor in travel, entrance and their time invested hunting for a client. True, a garoto makes more than the average non skilled worker in Brazil but most garotos put in a lot of time for the money they make in the saunas.

Apparently you don't. Yup. Yeah even I, a newbie to Brazil, knew what that meant. I get it that it is hard for some people to stay helpful and positive. Still, it is hard to read it sometimes when you yourself are trying to be helpful and positive.

LATAM has tickets again RT from MIA to Rio for under $650... June, skipping July and up into November....

And fuss over this NEW product from Heinz, Mayochup ? Anyone who has been woke for the last 100 years knows that this is the standard base for DIY Russian Dressing, and for those too cheap to buy ready mixed, have been mixing it up for decades. And is you were really smart and added pickle relish, you had Thousand Island Dressing. DUH ! And I thought Americans only showed their stupidity by electing TRUMP ?

i have 3.5 million miles on AA which meant i was Platinum for life! Starting this year it is good for absolutely nothing!! but united isn’t much better. i started flying them 1-1/2 years ago when i bought the house in Mexico and have accumulated over 100,000 miles which is good for 1/2 a business class ticket! so now i go with the cheapest because loyalty means nothing to them except they can screw more because you will stick with them in anticipation of mike awards

Where is Robert Crandall when you need him? His forte was to pick a competitors route and flood it with seats and cheap fares until the competitor shouted, "uncle". He was all about "upsizing". Best regards, RA1

A lot of straight men love to spoil their kids and grandkids with presents. A lot of gay men don’t have kids or grandkids, so it’s almost like a substitution giving presents to garotos. I don’t see anything wrong with it. That being said, giving gifts indiscriminately seems kind of silly, vs. giving gifts to garotos who have been friendly/nice to you or that you have a connection with. The monetary cost is all relative...I know some people for whom $800 is literally nothing.

RE: der morgige Tag ist ,mein. I would gladly settle for just a clear memory of yesterday. As for tomorrow, que sera, sera. (Yes, he is cute.) Best regards, RA1

in that respect...definitely.

All I’m saying is, next time I’m there, I’m taking a big box of new underwear!

I think his thread has more importance than Your comment to denounce it ? Not really sure why you continue to do this ? WHAT is it's value to this site? It's not interesting, its not exciting, its not educational AND its NOT funny ! I know it's what YOU do, but .... Come on Gurl !!!!

You are as classy as ever, tomcal(l). But somehow are not several of us reactive to some of this fellow's content, however regrettable at times our own responses? Look everyone, he's just going to do what he's going to do. Just let it go ... except for me, of course, as I thought of this.

I though gyozas were dumplings that squirt when you pop them into your mouth, if you work your tongue around them just so.

no...not anything like the U.S.......our only obligation is to sign up Selective Services.....I enlisted into the Army at 17. I've always said that we should have a mandatory Basic Training/Boot Camp at the minimum for everyone once they reach 18.

Markel and I are from the same hood, so we be good to go.

HAVE CHEESECAKE... To the BOYTOY community.....

In order to supplement my Retirement income, and stay busy, I have been searching for opportunities. I think I've found it... If these girls can do it, WHY can't I ?? I am especially intrigued at hosting HEN parties (but we'll quickly change that to COCK parties).... Just need to find the right "NAME". Please feel free to offer suggestion....

Someone needs to do the GAY version of this.

I take ownership of my snark. But I punch up, not down. I try not to insult or taunt the aging and the overweight. And I often call out those that imply (or directly state) that they are doing a favor for those in poorer nations by paying them a fair wage for their services.

Feel free to imagine whatever you wish about my physical appearance, if it makes you feel better about yourself. But I’m not so insecure about my looks or desirability that I would get bent out of shape if an older or fatter client more than me. “Trip reports” aren’t the only meaningful contributions that traveling posters make to this board. And as can be plainly seen, all “trip reports” aren’t created equal. Terms like “racial”, “minorities” and “chip on the shoulder” are about the whitest, gringoey-est things someone can say. Por cierto, mi abuelo negro era panameño. BTW, regarding posting any criticism, I think your posts, like anyone else’s, can be worthy of both praise and criticism. If you say something worth praising, you certainly get that — but when you say something that is foul and deserves criticism for even condemnation, that’s fair game as well. If you want nothing but sycophants worshipping your every word, then you can start your own blog where you can delete comments and prevent dissent.

So, it’s a lot like the USA, then?

Again, I’m sure the only person who looks like warmed over shit is you. Being bi-racial doesn’t automatically qualify you as not being a gringo. I missed the post where you said you are Latino? Lots of your posts are derogatory to white people, it seems like you have a lot of racial hang ups and/or a chip on your shoulder. Funny how you and badboy, both men of color, feel the need to gang up on/attack another minority. If you aren’t concerned with what sex workers charge strangers, then what are you doing reading a topic about that very subject? Feel free to contribute your own trip reports, and blather on in them as much as you would like. At least badboy does actually writes trip reports.

Oh well ... got this instead.

As the sauna scene is a cultural institution, I’d imagine quite a number of clients have hooked up with each other romantically or sexually over the years. Some may have even met the “man of their dreams” at a sauna — who was a client just like him! There are locals who go to the saunas regularly to relax, drink and socialize, and rarely hire garotos. Some of them probably do end up dating each other. At least you would not have to make excuses to your partner about where you are every day between 5 pm - 9 pm. That being said, I am still there mainly for the garotos.

Sure, that’s one perspective. But also, everyone in the population won’t do or cannot do sex work — for a multitude of reasons.

Perhaps if you would have taken a little time to read some of this board’s history instead of blathering on about your first trip, you would probably already know that no one could ever mistake me for a gringo, Asked and answered. You know what else is gauche? Publicly stating that it causes you some consternation that an older or overweight client — on a board where there probably are a number of readers who just may fit that description — was able to pay less than you for a sex date. Feel free to call me “bitter” all you’d like, hermano, but I’m not the one who spends even one precious minute concerned about what sex workers charge strangers, and if I am hotter or younger than them, or what that may suggest about my desirability. You may have only mentioned it once, out of all the things that you say, but it was a revealing comment. And 6’1” and what? Donald Trump claims that he is 6’3” and 238, and we all can plainly see that he looks like warmed-over shit. If I had a buckle for every guy on Grindr and the other apps that described himself as “VGL”, “hot”, “built”, etc. that really wasn’t, I’d already have that beach house in Buzios. But if you say you’re hot, great for you.

Hi, thanks for responding. Did you know that military service is mandatory for most young men in Brazil? Therefore, if a Brazilian soldier is paid a nominal amount for his duty in dangerous areas, that just goes with the requirement of the law. If garotos did not feel it is worth working in a sauna, they would not do it. Plain and simple. By the way, most garotos do not make anywhere near 13,000 reais monthly.

not sure what’s stuck up your ass tonight but you are being a jerk! the primary purpose of this board is to talk about Gay Sex south of the border! unless i missed the announcement by Oz that you are now the moderator?! and everyone who has visited Brazil for longer then a hour knows that “gozar means to “Cum”! no one has to google it except you evidently! We get it You think you are a hot Black escort from Atlanta that can get all the free sex he wants in Brazil! great! Again as OZ has said innumerable times, if you don’t like a post MOVE ON! Don’t rain on all of us less fortunate then you! your posts the last few days have been a combo of Dismissive/contrary/demeaning/argumentative and rude! try being a little helpful and positive! I have been repeating answers to posters for years! big deal! if your time is so precious why waste it here? because IMHO you are helping no one!

Haha. These boards are primarily about sex and experiences at saunas and with garotos. Personally, I enjoy reading about other people’s saunas and sex experiences in Brazil, even yours...despite the fact you usually only show up in posts to throw shade and/or troll

I do get plenty of free sex in Rio. I rarely write about that here because it pisses people like SolaceSoul off. I understand these boards are about escorts and saunas, so those are the focus of my postings. And again, I have not gone around talking about how hot I am, nor would I - it’s totally gauche. I made one minor comment and it got blown out of proportion by the bitter gringo SolaceSoul

I’m a 6”1 cuban-american latino and look brazilian, the only mediocre gringo here is you. I’ve rarely (if ever) talked about my looks on here, you’re the one making a big deal about it. I get propositioned by clients every single time I go to the saunas, to the point where it gets annoying. They assume everyone is for sale and can’t take no for an answer.

No one is suggesting that the Brazilian garotos should be paid New York escort prices. But this persistent argument over what is basically a $6 to $12 difference — mostly from tourists, visitors — seems petty AF. Rates for programa have increased slightly in the last decade but that increase hasn’t exactly kept up with the rate of inflation or America’s rising Dow Jones Index. Perspective, people, perspective.

Who cares?

No. That is what you want me to say, because obviously you already have one correct answer to your question in your mind.