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not sure what’s stuck up your ass tonight but you are being a jerk! the primary purpose of this board is to talk about Gay Sex south of the border! unless i missed the announcement by Oz that you are now the moderator?! and everyone who has visited Brazil for longer then a hour knows that “gozar means to “Cum”! no one has to google it except you evidently! We get it You think you are a hot Black escort from Atlanta that can get all the free sex he wants in Brazil! great! Again as OZ has said innumerable times, if you don’t like a post MOVE ON! Don’t rain on all of us less fortunate then you! your posts the last few days have been a combo of Dismissive/contrary/demeaning/argumentative and rude! try being a little helpful and positive! I have been repeating answers to posters for years! big deal! if your time is so precious why waste it here? because IMHO you are helping no one!9 points
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Yet another newbie's first time in Brazil and its sauna
PopeFrancis and 4 others reacted to Lucky for a topic
Nice report on 117 except that I could have been that old fart. Not that I would watch a drag show, but I don't appreciate older men being referred to negatively here.5 points -
Some notes on Bogota
Creditisdue and 2 others reacted to numazu for a topic
Just wanted to drop a note about Bogota. I was there a few weeks ago and it was my first time in this city, but not Colombia, having visited Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla, Santa Marta and Cali before, so I am very familiar with the country at least. What has helped with my travels in Colombia has been getting to know an actual Chaturbate studio (and have visited numerous times), and because of that I have been sifting through its models to be my companions in my travels in Colombia. When I’m discovering a city for the first time, I always like to have a constant companion with me, preferably someone who speaks the language to discover the city with me. Interestingly (unlike my experience with garotos in Brazil), through this studio, I don’t pay the boys any money per se, but I do take them to the occasional shopping spree, plus of course providing all food and transportation. I think it is because I started right with the first cam model in this studio I went out with, and subsequent boys have followed suit. Of course I will get the occasional plea for money when I am home, but I just say no. The disadvantage in having someone there all the time is it is hard to meet other boys to have sexy time with you when you are with your chosen boy for the trip. But I can hardly complain, as these Chaturbaters are really sexy and eager to show you a good time. Lately I have been spending a lot of time with two Colombians, ages 23 and 24, and boyfriends who only do duo broadcasts on Chaturbate (and Cam4). They seem to be the perfect combination of hotness, generosity with their bodies, with a healthy dose of humility and easy-going demeanor. They let me stay in their apartment one weekend, and they always insist that I sleep in between them, for maximum contact. It is such an amazing arrangement, but it can get awkward sometimes when you have to get out of bed to pee. You either have to roll over one of the boys, or get out of the bed the long way in the middle. But again, hardly a deal breaker. Sex with both is always great and satisfying, and having each sexual encounter be a threesome is always a production (three times the cumming, all three need to be showered, etc). Bogota has always been a dream destination for them. As “Costeños” they were used to the constant sunshine of the Caribbean coast. They were excited to visit what they call “the refrigerator,” due to Bogota being colder and grimmer than the coast due to its altitude. Before the trip, I promised to bring them old sweaters and jackets I had in storage back home that I haven’t worn in a while. They insisted on taking the arduous 18-hour or so bus ride to Bogota from the coast, due to one of the boy’s fear of flying, so they left their home hours before I had to hop on my flight from California. I was glad I brought the sweaters and jackets for the two boys. They got to the AirBNB safely, but were freezing their asses off, even though it was only 65F (18 C). The AirBNB unit I rented did not have a heater, the same as most apartments and hotels in Bogota, so the boys snuggled up to me in bed and the couch, which worked for me of course. Days were much better for them, as It was warmer, but they still had to bundle up when leaving the house, and I also had to buy them some gloves and beanies, which was readily available from street vendors for cheap. Some points: 1. I was kind of surprised by how Metropolitan Bogota was. It is not as modern as Medellin, but the pace of the city was much faster than the more laid-back coast. During the day the city had an army of workers who filled the offices, and it was kind of a nice change of pace from more tourist-oriented towns. 2. My Uber driver from the airport to my AirBNB was a tall, muscular and hot Bogotano was also a firefighter. Spoke very little English but very accommodating with my broken Spanish and talked slowly enough for my American ears to understand. Good start to the trip, and his hotness got me worked up for my boys. 3. The AirBNB I rented did not have any issues with my two companions staying with me, and I can imagine them not having any problems if instead I had a rotating harem visiting me constantly in the building. The security, though fairly cautious, seem to be very laid-back. View of the front of the building, with a drumline celebrating… something: 4. The neighborhood we stayed at was in Chapinero, and I was unprepared on how gay it was. Opening Grindr was like seeing a Christmas tree light up. The boys were checking Grindr as well and got inundated with offers from locals to meet. If I were to guess, the boys who messaged me constituted of 40% boys looking for customers, and 60% were just regular locals wanting to hookup, 30% of which what I would consider hooking up with. I will need to go back here alone to take advantage of the boys: 5. Speaking of gay, I purposefully picked an AirBNB that was close to the gay bars. I was surprised that the apartment building was just across the street from not one, but three gay bars, and in the same block as 4 others. And we saw the occasional gay couple holding hands in the streets. It was really gay central, complete with a rainbow crosswalk: 6. Another surprising benefit of staying in gay central Chapinero, is that it was relatively safe to wander the streets at 4 AM without fearing for our safety. Granted, there were 3 of us every single time when we walked the streets, but we did not have any problems stumbling out of a bar at the usual ungodly hour, and to look for late-night snacks around Chapinero. We did not have to take any Ubers and appreciated the relative safety of the neighborhood. 7. Even if Bogota is a proper world city, it still had relatively third-world prices for the most part, cheap food readily available and super delicious. The boys insisted in indulging my request to eat authentic Colombian food. I certainly was not disappointed here. And having soup in the morning is a good counter for the cold: 8. There are a lot of things to do in the city, if you are bored with all the indoor sweaty activities. Highlights for us were the Gold Museum, which was free on Sundays (most museums are free on Sundays): and the mountain Montserrate, which had a church on top of it, which we took a cable car to get up to: 9. Sadly, I did not have the opportunity to check out the saunas. Maybe next time. 10. And finally, and probably the highlight of our trip (apart from the sex, of course), was visiting Theatron, the legendary gay bar in Chapinero. Saying it is a bar, of course, does not describe the venue accurately, because Theatron is really 13 bars in one: it was this large stadium type dance hall: surrounded by 12 other gay bars, each with its own theme and vibe: We all agreed that Threaton was a destination on to itself, and the sheer variety of what you can find in the place deserves multiple trips back. We only had time to go on a Saturday night, and there was a tremendously long line of energetic party-goers trying to get in, but once we paid the 35,000 COP ($12) entry fee, which included a hard plastic cup we used to get our unlimited drinks (between 10 PM and 2 AM), we took advantage of the various venues the place had. Traditional dance tunes, electronica, latino music, trance, chill music, you name it, they had it. But probably the crowning jewel of the place was in the 4th floor, which was a men’s only floor. We did not know why women weren’t allowed until we saw this: I will definitely go back to Bogota, possibly alone next time. There is so much more to see.3 points -
The Sao Paulo diaries
Latbear4blk and 2 others reacted to sanddunes for a topic
Sao Paulo is not a city you fall in love with at first sight. It has a gritty urban feel, a color palate best described as gray and dingy, and the hustle and bustle of a fast -paced city. There are no beaches or mountains to dazzle you with their beauty. But over time a curious thing happens - you start to discover neighborhoods that you like, a certain charming resturaunt here and there. You meet amazing people, develop friendships, and suddenly an unexpected fondness for the city emerges. No, it will never be Rio. But I have learned to appreciate the city for what it is.. After 88 days in Brazil it’s time to go back to the US. I have no choice, actually: my e-visa is expiring and can’t be renewed. If I get my visa issues worked out, I might return in December or sometime next year. In the meantime, I’ll be keeping in touch with various garotos on whatsapp and enjoying reading whatever pictures, stories and/or unique reasons for needing money that they might send3 points -
Yet another newbie's first time in Brazil and its sauna
Badboy81 and 2 others reacted to SolaceSoul for a topic
As the sauna scene is a cultural institution, I’d imagine quite a number of clients have hooked up with each other romantically or sexually over the years. Some may have even met the “man of their dreams” at a sauna — who was a client just like him! There are locals who go to the saunas regularly to relax, drink and socialize, and rarely hire garotos. Some of them probably do end up dating each other. At least you would not have to make excuses to your partner about where you are every day between 5 pm - 9 pm. That being said, I am still there mainly for the garotos.3 points -
Haha. These boards are primarily about sex and experiences at saunas and with garotos. Personally, I enjoy reading about other people’s saunas and sex experiences in Brazil, even yours...despite the fact you usually only show up in posts to throw shade and/or troll3 points
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Latbear4blk and 2 others reacted to sanddunes for a topic
I do get plenty of free sex in Rio. I rarely write about that here because it pisses people like SolaceSoul off. I understand these boards are about escorts and saunas, so those are the focus of my postings. And again, I have not gone around talking about how hot I am, nor would I - it’s totally gauche. I made one minor comment and it got blown out of proportion by the bitter gringo SolaceSoul3 points -
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axiom2001 and 2 others reacted to SolaceSoul for a topic
No one is suggesting that the Brazilian garotos should be paid New York escort prices. But this persistent argument over what is basically a $6 to $12 difference — mostly from tourists, visitors — seems petty AF. Rates for programa have increased slightly in the last decade but that increase hasn’t exactly kept up with the rate of inflation or America’s rising Dow Jones Index. Perspective, people, perspective.3 points -
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mvan1 and 2 others reacted to SolaceSoul for a topic
The description is going to be the standard “good looking, fit, all-American” vagueness. The confidence of mediocre gringos is quite staggering.3 points -
First of all, I don’t go to saunas because I have no way to get sex other than pay for it. There are plenty of other reasons guys go to saunas (convenience and immediacy, ease of selection, safety, the social aspects). Saunas are fun for a variety or reasons. I also find the saunas fascinating as an American who grew up in a Puritan, repressed, sex-negative culture. The sexuality, lack of shame over nudity, and culture norms found in Brazil and Brazilian saunas are so radically different and refreshing. Second, I wasn’t trying to diss “fat old guys.” You seem to be taking it personal for no reason.3 points
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I always cringe when I read about the fees the garotos request and how some of the men here respond. Today's rates [5.13.18] for the real vs the dollar follow: R$100 = $29.00 R$150 = $41.00 R$200 = $55.00 R$250 = $69.00 R$400 = $116.00 I had planned to write some additional observations and perceptions but thought it best to do just as I did. Men, think about it!3 points
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I, for one, will be saddened by your departure from Brazil. Your posts have been a delight (except maybe the drama-filled "pricing" thread ). Thanks for sharing your trip, your adventures, your insight and your boys.2 points
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Thank you. Apology accepted. I don't know if you are actually Asian or how you look. But, it's well known here that I am old (70), and I like Asians. So, if you sat next to me for the show and we interacted in a friendly way about it, I would likely have tried to get to know you better. I think older guys know that their looks aren't likely to score for them and don't push it. But a nice guy meeting a nice guy? Age, race, looks, they really don't have much to do with it.2 points
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I second jkane, I like the new look and the response time is as good as ever. I hope the cost of the upgrade didn’t reduce significantly the slush fund in Oz’s bedroom for cute Thai boys.2 points
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Yet another newbie's first time in Brazil and its sauna
Latbear4blk and one other reacted to SolaceSoul for a topic
“Honey, I thought that we were saving up for a new house! Would you mind staying within our agreed budget for garotos de programas?”2 points -
Nobody is saying garotos don’t deserve what they make or that they don’t have to work for it. But if the army pays a soldier 2400 reals a month for risking his life doing counter-drug operations in favelas, while a garoto can make 13,000 reals a month getting wined and dined, with occasional european vacations, clothes and new cell phones paid for, then comparatively garotos don’t have it that bad.2 points
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Come on, let's be fair. Garotos have expenses for travel to the sauna and must pay sauna admission. Some garotos live a long distance from a sauna and spend a lot of travel time. I know some garotos who travel more than two hours each way to a sauna. While a garoto is in a sauna, he is spending his time. The expense to get to the sauna and to enter the sauna and to wait around hunting and hoping for a client, means that a garoto puts in more than just a few minutes or even one hour to make his money. Don't forget, some garotos go to a sauna and do not meet a client. Those garotos are out the expenses for travel and entrance plus their wasted time. There are the special garotos that get many clients in a night. Those are not the typical garoto. While it might seem like a garoto is making money for little time and effort, it is only an illusion. We must factor in travel, entrance and their time invested hunting for a client. True, a garoto makes more than the average non skilled worker in Brazil but most garotos put in a lot of time for the money they make in the saunas.2 points
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Finally, some replies... It is irrelevant. Almost every major Colombian city has one (or three). And normally these types of compression socks look awkward on some guys, but on these guys it works! Even the boys, who are cam boys and therefore used to seeing naked hot man flesh every day (and get to have sex with it), got so hot and bothered by the strippers. They even asked me if I can pay these strippers to pay us a visit in the apartment. I seriously thought about it, but alas we did not have time. This is a great idea for a follow-up post! Maybe when I go to a Colombian sauna this could be something I can work on. There's a lot of stuff on Brazil, might as well have one for Colombia too. Thanks for the tip! Definitely for next time. I must admit, we hardly minded the "bad quality" booze during the 4-hour window. We were constantly going up and down stairs and dancing our asses off, so I guess we fully metabolized the awful alcohol, as we did not get hangovers. We left around 3:15 AM after having two rounds of beers (I forgot the price, probably insignificant), and then we continued the party at the apartment with some beers we bought earlier, and some homemade leftover arepas we heated up from the lunch before. Between drinks and talking (and getting the hang of Colombian Spanish) I think we got to bed at around 6 AM. Indeed :). I have my own way to get sex in Colombia, which is a little different on how I get it in Brazil. Both are fun of course. We are spoilt for choice. More replies later...2 points
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Apparently you don't. Yup. Yeah even I, a newbie to Brazil, knew what that meant. I get it that it is hard for some people to stay helpful and positive. Still, it is hard to read it sometimes when you yourself are trying to be helpful and positive.2 points
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And another perspective is the unskilled worker who sees garotos making $41 for less than one hour of work. If you want to feel sorry for Brazilians, don’t feel sorry for garotos, feel sorry for the rest of the population that work at $2 an hour.2 points
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Badboy81 and one other reacted to floridarob for a topic
I saw this coming, lol2 points -
Yet another newbie's first time in Brazil and its sauna
SolaceSoul and one other reacted to Tomasian for a topic
Sorry its meant to be tounge-in-cheek but i realised its a little insensitive and i apologise. Desculpe sincerely.2 points -
There are definitely people on this board who get perturbed if you mention that you are attractive enough to find sex without paying. For me, I like to hear about the other side of tourism...sex clubs, cruisy theaters, parks, etc. One more data point re: garotos cumming in the saunas. It is common for guys to ASK for extra. If it's important to you that he shoot, you should definitely negotiate that up front. It may or may not be something I want, depending on the guy and what I want to do with him. I have had guys explain to me several times that they want extra because, once they shoot, they will be done for the evening and can't make more money. Part of this might be a hustle, but it's also partly true, especially depending on the age of the guy. I have found that guys who quoted me an "extra" fee for cumming earlier in the night will waive the fee later in the night, when they are winding down or just about to head home. Like all negotiations in the sauna, it's impossible to quantify exactly what is fair. I've been quoted between 0 and 100 reais extra for cum. I may have paid around $50 once or twice, just to seal the deal. My point is that prices fluctuate not only with the season, but with the time of day.2 points
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Agree. It must be really tough to live a decent life for those that are not garotos, and must buy food, pay rent and transportation on a minimum wage pay.2 points
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"I'm waiting for him and Tomcal to hang out together one time....." You could sell tickets to that!2 points
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Latbear4blk and one other reacted to SolaceSoul for a topic
If that were truly the case, then this portion of your statement was totally unnecessary: ”It’s also annoying to see the same garoto later with a local older/overweight/whatever client and thinking that they are charging that client less than me.“ Why would it bother you if an older or overweight client is charged less than you? It has already been discussed ad nauseum here that locals and long-time regulars get favored treatment. But being perturbed by favored treatment towards an older or fatter client seems to be coming from a personal place for you. Re: getting sex, you don’t have to prove to me or anyone that you can get it without paying. I couldn’t care less how you get it. My point is that, for a multitude of reasons, we sex tourists choose to pay for it. The WHY someone is paying versus why someone else might be is for each person to work out. What another client does, what a garoto does for or with that client, or what another client pays has little to do with me. Obsessing over that is pointless — unless one gets some odd self-esteem boost from knowing they get charged a few dollars less for a programa than some other guy.2 points -
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Riobard and one other reacted to SolaceSoul for a topic
1) Not that a fuck or a massage in a bordello is anything close to a major purchase like a car or a house, but I certainly wouldn’t be dumb enough to overpay double for a car — because I would’ve walked into the dealership having performed research and having the information necessary to know the market value of the vehicle. But if my friend bought a car for 1/2 of what I paid, I would congratulate him on his negotiation skills and due diligence, and maybe be mad at myself for not being as savvy. However, barring fraud or nonperformance, I certainly wouldn’t blame the seller if I agreed to the price. 2) Sometimes you get charged less than someone that you personally don’t find attractive. Sometimes you get charged more. As they say in South Brooklyn, them’s the breaks. 3) $12 was an example to put things into perspective. But the difference between 100 R (a number you keep touting as the standard) and 150 R is about $13 USD. “Being generous” seems like a very odd phrase to use when the difference is $12. It reads like you think you’re doing the service provider a favor, or are tipping beyond their requested fee. Actually, it sounds like a very gringo-ey thing to say. I don’t mean that as an insult, but it’s certainly not a compliment.2 points -
I just wanted to say it appears to be working better than ever and to thank TotallyOz for all the work he puts into keeping this running for us!2 points
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Axiom, we, know, believe us, we DO know. (Except 29x2=55????) Yes, it is 6 times cheaper than in NYC What you don’t seem to realise, is that everyone earns 6 times less than in NYC, on average. The waitress in a restaurant. The guy working behind a desk in a bank. The local pastor. The guy that collects bins. The lady that cleans my hotel room. Everything is in proportion. If we were all to give US$300-350 to a garoto for 1 full hour of penetrative sex with cum (which is what it costs in NYC these days) instead of $55, the garotos would become the richest people in their neighbourhood. That is not a problem in itself, but then I can’t afford as many guys, so, no thank you, I pay the local fair price, which is a very good price for Brazil, whether you like it or not. And then I am generous (when I say generous, i don’t mean an extra $12, I mean smartphone-price level) to the guys who are amazing and make me feel young and sexy.2 points
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1) I suppose you would be fine buying a new car from a dealership for 50k and then learning your friend bought the exact same car for 25k? I suppose you also wouldn’t care if the car salesman told everyone else you were a dumb American and were stupid enough to pay double? The difference between 100 and 200 reals is 2x. Tomcal has reported before garotos making fun of clients behind their backs who overpay. 2) I don’t expect to get charged less than an unattractive client. But I certainly don’t expect to get charged more. 3) You are assuming my generosity amounts to $12 extra when you really have no idea what I have given or am capable of giving2 points
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Riobard and one other reacted to SolaceSoul for a topic
(1) Concerning yourself with what others you conduct business think of you personally sounds like a personal problem. It’s a business transaction. You pay what you can afford and what you feel it worth. The other party asks for what they believe they can get considering variable circumstances (all discussed in other posts above). You have no way of knowing if they think you’re a sucker or not. There are posters here who would lowball a garoto any opportunity they could get. Does that make the garoto a sucker and the client a user? (2) How you view the desirability of othe clients (whether by their age or their weight, as you mentioned here, or perhaps other external factors) is also another personal issue. A payboy sauna is not a mating ritual like a singles bar or a swipe-left Grindr or Tinder app. Garotos are there to make money, not a love connection. You may believe that you’re physically attractive or irresistible, but the fact remains is you are there because you have to pay for it, just like the fat old guys. This board just had a conversation about how insensitive it is that certAin posters consistently remarking that some clients may not be as beautiful as others. The flip side of that is that some posters consistently remark that they pay less because they are somehow better looking than the average client. It’s like some really weird psychological affirmation — when the irony is we are all proactively paying for it. 3) I have a hard time squaring paying what amounts to a measly extra $12 for sex as “being generous”. You’re not exactly donating to the Res Cross.2 points -
For those garotos who are gay, you forgot the client’s attractiveness. Let me build an 8-dimensional matrix visualisation tool for your auction2 points
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Some notes on Bogota
Creditisdue and one other reacted to numazu for a topic
Thanks for the feedback so far. I'll get to some of the questions posted here, but I thought I'd post a response I wrote from some PMs I got because of this post. Some members have asked me on how to visit a Chaturbate studio in Colombia. The owners of these studios of course do not want their studios to be known as brothels, and what the models do on their own time is their business, but to those who want to visit a studio, here was my response: Hi there, I guess I lucked out on the first Chaturbate model I contacted to meet with me. He is one of the favorites of the studio, and the model was eager to show me the studio and to meet the owner as well. Soon after that the boys came to know me (or my reputation), so I did not have problems getting other models to agree to be my companion. The good thing about this is that first model was a gossip, and my sexual preferences came to be known in the studio. So the other models who went with me knew exactly what to do to please me. On the other side of the coin, they knew that I did not pay this first model for his time (just the occasional shopping spree), so I started right. My suggestion to you is of course go on Chaturbate, strike up a conversation with a model you think is a good fit with you (after paying for play of course, depends on the model). Ask for his WhatsApp, and then just setup a meeting from there. He may even have suggestions on other companions that may accompany him (and you). You'll know from your conversations that that he is from a studio versus just being a independent contractor, and maybe a visit to his city may facilitate a visit to his studio. Your mileage may vary of course. I've visited two studios so far. These studios are really a cottage industry in Colombia, so these are not "professional studios" per se. These are usually just residential houses with good internet connection and rooms outfitted each with computers and an HD webcam. Sometimes these studios also house the boys, providing them with common areas and access to laundry facilities and a big kitchen. It is perfect, for example, for a hot young Venezuelan without any legal documents to stay in Colombia (and there are a few I've met) to earn money they otherwise would be incapable of earning back in their country, without any need to possess any prior useful work skills except possessing a hard body, a big cock and pretty hole. They won't even need a place to stay or clothes to wear. Everything is provided by the studio. Lots of drawbacks in this arrangement. The owner gets a possibly unfair cut of the boy's earnings. But oh well. I've actually stayed the night in one of the studios (but not in the boys area with bunk beds, but in the owner's bigger bedroom with other boys), and the ambiance of the house is not really designed for sleeping if you are a light sleeper. Lots of boys graduate from staying in the studio to getting their own place, once they earn enough money, because it is simply not ideal living conditions, due to the sheer number of people who live with you, with music always playing in the background, and the boys (and girls) transmitting in all hours of the day. I did not get sleep that night I stayed, but for a number of reasons in addition to the the noise. Hope this helps. numazu2 points -
Rio Belo Horizonte May 18 "green eyes" trip
groenthusiast and one other reacted to Tomcal for a topic
Over the years i have done Many sets of cousins, brothers, identical twins, nephew/uncles, so it wouldn’t surprise me if there was a father son duo! here is a photo of one set of twins i saw a lot from 2008 - 20102 points -
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PopeFrancis reacted to sanddunes for a topic
Rio - 117 and Point 202 -Most guys will take 100 reals for a programa. I have been asked without exception for more if I want gozar. I’m curious if others get goza included with the 100. I have been asked for between 120 and 150 with goza. -Some guys want more than 100 if you want them to be pasivo (this applies more to muscle guys who aren’t usually pasivo). Usually in this case they ask for 150. -Lowest I’ve paid is 80, and that is with guys who I was on the border about hiring. I’ve also gotten massages for 50 reals, probably because the masseuse was desperate for buisness that day. -Higher end guys (best looking, muscular) sometimes ask for 150 and won’t come down, especially on busy nights. These are the guys that are in highest demand. Usually they ask for 200 with goza. If I’m really into the guy and he won’t come down sometimes I pay 150. I am wondering if anyone else has experience with guys who won’t budge from 150. The most I’ve ever paid is 200 with goza. -Overnights. Usually they quote around 400, but it varies. Curious what other people are paying for this. I’ve yet to actually do an overnight with a garoto. Lagoa -The guys usually ask for more in Sao Paulo to start than in Rio. -Starting price for negotiations is 150. The lesser in demand ones will go down to 100-120. It’s easier to get them to come down on less busy nights when there aren’t a lot of clients. -Some of the top-end guys won’t budge from 150. There is at least one or two that insist on 200. All the guys at Lagoa also ask extra for cum. There has only been twice I can think of when they came without asking for more. -Overnights at Lagoa: have been quoted from 400 to 700 reals. -I’m also curious if anyone has had success re-negotiating a rate with a garoto. In my experience it is difficult after you have already paid them 150, but then later try to get them to go for 100. What you pay the first time is usually what you pay for repeats.1 point -
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Tartegogo reacted to floridarob for a topic
http://thebrazilbusiness.com/article/brazilian-armed-forces The interesting part is: Conscription According to Brazilian law, military service is mandatory for all Brazilian men, but conscientious objection is allowed. Women and clergymen are exempt from compulsory military service. In the year that they turn eighteen, men are required to register for the draft and are expected to serve when they reach nineteen. About 75 percent of those registering receive deferments mainly due to the excessive number of conscripts. Generally, those from the upper class and upper middle class find ways to defer, and as a result, the ranks are made up primarily of lower-class and lower-middle-class recruits. A growing number of recruits are volunteers, accounting for about one-third of the total. The conscript system is primarily a means of providing basic military training to a sizable group of young men who then return to civilian life and are retained on the reserve rolls until the age of forty-five.1 point -
Thank you very much! We appreciate this. We are committed to making the site the best possible.1 point
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https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2024.html1 point
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Hi, thanks for responding. Did you know that military service is mandatory for most young men in Brazil? Therefore, if a Brazilian soldier is paid a nominal amount for his duty in dangerous areas, that just goes with the requirement of the law. If garotos did not feel it is worth working in a sauna, they would not do it. Plain and simple. By the way, most garotos do not make anywhere near 13,000 reais monthly.1 point
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So true, and most of the time it is probably about 20 minutes of work. In some cases, maybe 5 minutes1 point
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Never heard it or use but I learned a new word today1 point
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What I said was I rarely write about free sex. i.e. grindr hookups or whatever1 point
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SolaceSoul reacted to Badboy81 for a topic
What do you look like? Would you mind describing yourself so that I can get a visual? Thanks1 point -
Fantastic, thanks! I guess you can say it also? It is not only in writing, right?1 point
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The Sao Paulo diaries
Tomasian reacted to SolaceSoul for a topic
“tô” is a casual written word short for “estou”, which of course means “I am” (the present indicative version of “to be”, as opposed to the more permanent “sou”). tô = estoutá = estátamu = estamostão* = estão1 point -
Yet another newbie's first time in Brazil and its sauna
brockmiller reacted to Tomcal for a topic
They must have known you were a newbie because i have never been approached by a sauna guy offering a massage initially! They all offer sex..then again maybe my reputation as a big HO is the reason! :-)1 point -
That’s what they said now they could have been blowing smoke up my ass but I didn’t care because I loved their cocks up my ass1 point
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Wonderful... "Champagne? Don Perignon my favorite. Dancing, music, champagne, the best way to forget, until you find something you want to remember."1 point
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one month in Colombia report (Cali, Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla, Pereira)
torogen reacted to tassojunior for a topic
I know at Club Tobi in Medellin a "massage" for $18 US certainly includes oral and can begin that way. The ones who do bottom will, perhaps expecting a $5 or $10 tip. Topping or oral passive is enjoyed as a norm in Colombia and usually free so you won't have problems there. 50,000 CP ($18) is a good base rate and 100,000 CP ($36) is considered high and will get anything usually. btw- Colombians have a fetish for hairy men as there are so few there.1 point