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I shared my experience in saunas in Rio and SP in here, here, and here I will share more here as requested by some members. Overall my experience in saunas was amazing but I liked 117 in Rio an Lagos in Sao Paulo. Both are close to metro stations, so next time, I would book a place near the metros in the same line. This makes life much easier because you can avoid the traffic. Guys at these two saunas did a great job and much better than saunas in Spain. Overall, the guys really try to please you, and can keep their tools hard most of the time and attitudes are good (except one guy) and good kissers. Even the straight ones do kiss but I felt some of them did not enjoy much. However, they would still kiss you if you ask and this is the biggest difference from the escorts everywhere else. That one exception at 117. I am usually a bit shy in the beginning, especially when I am among many hot guys. Usually hot young guys would be only into other hot young guys and I understand it is different in saunas, still it takes a while for me to get used to it because I still fear rejections. This happened in my second day when I approached a guy. He was hot but not the top quality at 117 because that sauna has tons of super sexy guys. Most guys here do not speak english but they are always friendly and patient, especially when I use translator app on my phone. It is a bit longer but usually gets the done. However, when I approached this guy, (I think his name was Diego but how many diegos are there?) he was very dismissive and wrote in the app that he worked there. I said, I understand and I am happy to pay. He just said 150, that is more than I paid in all cases, the going rate in december 2016 is still 100. Even it was pricey, I asked if he kissed, he bluntly said no. Being honest is good but at the same time from the beginning he kept giving me the impression that he is being bothered and was not willing to talk to me. Usually when I give a look to check them out, guys would come and introduce themselves and ask your name etc. As others said, it is sociable environment so a quick but friendly starter chat was the norm or me. But this guy was very different and dismissive. So I left but I also felt like being rejected because every other guy was much more friendly approachable. Anyway, I had more fun with other guys, so in the end it was good but still was wondering why he was so cold from the beginning...Overall the rates are 100 but I usually ask for kissing and topping me, so maybe different rates if you ask for more. But it didn't seem like it mattered because they all seem to accept the rate except this one exception. If someone is much better looking than others, ok, I understand but he was not. Even the really hot guy I had fun with accepted 100 but we never discussed rate (the only guy I didn't discussed the rate with because I left earlier and met next day) However, he was so good (from kissing to touching me and topping me and everything was just good), I gave him a tip of 50. Anyway, I also was observing him and he went with a really fat guy. Ok, maybe that is what he wants, who knows but I like 117 for the environment it has and guys there do a good job keeping it. If many guys would behave like him, I would not go to that sauna. I think the management should be aware of these situations to keep quality. Outside of sauna, I stayed in Copacabana. Surprisingly, when you open grindr here, it is just full of escorts. Probably 50% of the guys there are escorts. I talked to them just to see how it goes. The rates are from 100-250. But 100 was very rare, most guys ask for 200 or 150. 250 was rare too. I met with a guy next to me, basically it was 30m away, so we chatted. he was very friendly and quick. Also, very close, so it was convenient for me. I hired him one night and we were actually in the same building, so it was super easy. But when he got naked the tool was just way too big for me. Way bigger than the picture, which is odd because he could have used as a sales point. After realizing that I couldn't take it, I did just vanilla stuff. He was a good kisser and kept it hard all the time. So we finished one round and everything was good. He had a public photo on grindr that I could have shared but I am lazy...PM me if interested in big tools. He is probably in late 20s or early 30s though... My next guy was a hot but a bit shorter guy from grindr. Again, he was in the next building, so made it really easy to meet. Every time I ask if they can kiss passionately and whether they have a problem with erection. I think it is important to have this agreement before meeting. Some escorts don't care about their promises before meeting but guys in Latin america in general were very good about their promises and always tried to make it right. Maybe I was lucky but most guys, even the straight ones enjoyed kissing. And this guy is probably the best example of above. When we met, he couldn't get hard (because he was straight!). Of course, this is not what he promised but I didn't say anything. We made out, I give him oral etc but he still would have a problem as soon as he tried to put it in. It happened three or four times, I was a bit annoyed but what can we do....I thought it was just a bad case and I lost 150, so I said I had to leave. Just out of curiosity, before paying, I asked how much I should pay him, he said no need to pay because he couldn't perform. That was really nice of him and I wish every escort was like him because it does waste client's time and if we have to pay, it is even more annoying. I gave him 50, for his kindness and left happy because he was such a good person. I am wondering how other guys here deal with situations like this? For my own safety, especially in Brazil, I was ready to pay but in almost all cases, guys were really good to me. Finally, my tinder. as I said in my other post in Argentina, I opened my tinder and changed my photos to fancy ones to attract particular guys. I got quite a few matches. Interestingly, as we chat some of them would say, oh I wanna meet but I am jobless and I couldn't go there etc. In general I would be happy to work something out in these cases but I was so busy with really hot escorts there, so I just said, oh sorry, if you are in the area, text me, we will have a drink or dinner. But overall, guys in Brazil are pretty flexible and open minded. I was very happy that I had many matches with very decent looking young guys. Also, some tried to meet but they were traveling back and forth because it was the end of the year. Also, from my side, I made zero effort to meet so I felt a bit bad for them. If I have more time, next time I would seek some authentic experience from Tinder. To sum it up, I really enjoyed Rio, and Sao Paulo to certain degree (it was too big, no beaches etc). I didn't have time to do sightseeing because I was busy with boys but I will keep RIO as my top destinations in the future.

I think if somebody came and threw money and food and fucks at my feet in abundance at no cost, my first thought would not be to moan and bitch about it.

I had a quick stop in Santiago and explored the city as well as nearby areas. The main purpose was not about hiring a guy but I ended up hiring some. So wanted to share my experience There are a few websites I found by googling but the most prominent was sexourbano.cl. But the quality is not as good as in Brazil. Actually far below. Just out of curiosity I asked their rates by whatsapp by my brazilian number, most will charge you 40K (about 60USD) for their apartment (dpto) but some charge even more 50, 60 etc. For the quality, I wouldn't pay that much given my experience in Brazil and Argentina. I hired one (Marlon) who was quick to respond and pretty easy to deal with, so I decided to give him a shot. I told what I wanted: kissing and bottom, and erection is required. I make it clear because without a hard one, I cannot finish and to me, it makes no sense to hire a guy who cannot get it hard. He had a bit of problem with erection but as we discussed over chat, I did his best and eventually managed to make me finish. But it was a long session and I was losing mine because it was about making him hard...Overall look wise a bit downgrade from the pictures but he had a good attitude and worked hard to satisfy me. For that I was happy. Then I used grindr app just to see. A lot more massage therapists in the old town area. But I randomly messaged guys if they wanted some cash. I got a pretty decent responses from decent guys. One guy was hot and I offered him 30K and he seemed ok with it. But my trip was short and I couldn't make it happen. Another concern about hiring guys here is that apartment security. Similar to Brazil, you have to show your id etc at the security. And I like to keep it low, so I wasn't very enthusiastic about inviting guys. And when you hire a normal guy from grindr you are expected to invite....Something to consider. And finally, I was tired before leaving the city, with all the walking etc, so I thought I would give a try to massage. Usually, it is awful because random guys who have no idea of massage advertise on it and try to make some cash. But the rate was 20K but it was a day before my departure and I had 35K left, so I decided to use some of them instead of carrying the cash or exchange back. Not enough for an escort but I could hire a massage therapist. So I went through some profiles on grindr and chose one, who responded nicely and quickly. He seemed to eager to give a good experience. I went to his apartment, went through security by asking the security guy to call the tenant without giving my id, which usually works. It was a small dark room with a high single bed. The guy was a bit chubbier than the pictures (see below) asked me to get naked and lay on the bed. And he wanted the money upfront, which is very rare in my experience in the area. But I gave him the money, which I regret later. For some reason escorts who ask money first always messed me up! Anyway, didn't think much because all the guys I hired were really nice. So I asked him to get naked because he promised to. So a bit touching starts, then he got on me and started massaging me with his body. I wish he had a great body but he didn't. Anyway, I was willing to pay the money and he made me finish. I got a messy after the session, and he gave a towel and offered me to use shower in the next room. I did quickly washed my hand and cleaned my body with towel. It took about a minute or two and I came back because my stuff was in the other room. The guy was still naked, so I went dressed while he dressed as well. Once I put on my pants, I noticed my wallet is in the back pocket, which never happens because I always put it in the side pocket. So I checked the content, there was 15K more but it was all gone. I am 100% sure because I was trying to manage my cash before leaving so when I paid before massage, I saw one 5 and 10 left in my wallet. I asked him about it but he first pretended he didn't understand, then I used google translate, he said I can just look around, which I did but I realized at this point that it was gone and I cannot do anything about it anymore. I have been cautioned by members here but I hired quite a few guys in Brazil and Argentina and one in Chile, all of them behaved really well but I guess that made me have this false security and there I have the first experiment to be robbed. I told him that it was not nice and not a good way of doing business but he just blocked me on whatsapp. So in case some here decide to go to Santiago, I would be very careful about this guy. His name is Andres, lives on Mario Kreuberguer street by San Martin. I can give exact address if someone needs but his wahtsapp is +56-9-56629256 Overall, the last experience left a bad taste in my mouth but overall, I would like to return to the area, probably just Sao Paulo and Rio only though...

As suggested by members here, the way to go is finding an escort in Argentina is using website....I know, it is dreadful and time-consuming. The most used site is soytuya and revistaratones. Contacting them by whatsapp is possible for most guys, but you could call them if you speak good spanish. I have been using google translate but it is in your advantage if you know Argentinian Spanish. For example, they seems to use arancel as rate but I have no idea what it means as google translate didn't give me any translation. Also, they will quote you a lower rate if you use their language or contact from a whatsapp with Argentinian number. I do have a spare cheap android that I used when I travel. And you can actually change your whatsapp number quite easily without losing the messages if you don't care about the numbers. So I do change my numbers when I change countries. For example, I asked some rates as "tarifas" while I was in Brazil using my braziling whatsapp. Then I learned the word arancel and asked the same escorts with my new Argentinian number when I got to BA, almost always the rates were lower and in some cases by 500 (25% off). Just to give you an idea... Another trick that I used to ease the process is that you can save the contacts by copy pasting from the website to your google account. Then sync the address book into your cell phone. Now automatically, you will see the contacts on whatsapp after a while if the person is on whatsapp. One thing is that all the local numbers in Latin america makes it complicated, so you want to save the full digits including the country code. Soytuya is good in that was because you can just copy the full digits from there. But it doesn't have the age of the escorts and quite many didn't have face pictures. And some of them were not willing to share face, so I dropped them. But mostly those are older guys. The rates range from A$800 or 50USD (somewhat around 150BRL) to A$2000. There are a lot of Colombian and Venezuelan escorts who are on the lower end probably because they have more tanned skin ( which is luckily not a factor in my taste) but more white looking guys would charge from A$1000 (Argentinians) to 2000. However, the high end (tall, muscular, hung, white) is really not worth the money in my opinion. You get the same quality in Brazilian saunas for 800(or 150BRL, which is 100 for escort and 50 for the room; you can also meet them in person for 150-200, which is A$800-1000). Look and skin tone wise, you can get the same quality in Brazilian saunas as they have really diverse guys. Among them I hired a Venezuelan guy, called Ander because he was my type and charged only 800+taxi or 800 at his place. Also, he was the easiest guy to communicate over whatsapp. Very responsive and accommodates questions and requests very quickly. Had a beautiful ass and average sized in the front. Nicely gym body, very tight, healthy smooth skin and good kissing! I cannot address the last part enough because it was so natural and good. Really BF experience. He looked much better than the picture. SO the sex went very well: no erection problem, passionate kissing while topping me etc. And very nice attitude. So I hired him a couple of times because it was just a goo match. I also tried another Argentinian because I wanted to try them. My choice was Lio because he looked like Messi. I jusst coulnd't resist...He was also very responsive and have a set voice response to requests. So he doesn't change his price rfom one to another. He had an erection problem but also apologized for it and promised me to give a good time next time but I was already happy with someone who can perform. On whatsapp message he wanted 1000 including everything but when we finished he wanted 1200. I told him about whatsapp. He said something but I didn't understand. I wasn't paying more than 1000 for this experience so I showed the message (no erection problem, 1000 for completo etc). It was a turnoff but it seems like he just tried it without any bad intentions. So he accepted 1000 and left me messages later about meeting again so he can satisfy me. So overall I didn't have any bad feelings. I just went back to my Venezuelan boy

While I was in BA, the selection of boys was very limited. So I tried grindr and sent some random messages asking if they are interested in some cash. The response rate was much lower than Santiago, and can't compare to Rio. In the central area, I saw some massage guys. They seem to charge 400, almost all therapists quoted the same price. I think it is a good price but again the main problem for me was the quality. I just suspect that these guys have no idea of massage therapy, so they will touch you grossly and jerk you off. I want a good massage from sexy guy but that is hard to find. However, I found one promising profile (promising in the sense that good responses, sounded like he knew what he was doing but average look). Tried to make it happen twice but didn't work out because of our schedules. In case someone wants the contact, PM me (however, I still don't know the quality). finally, i met with a guy from Grindr (who doesn't have a photo publicly, so can't share). A bit skinnier than my taste but only 22yo and he is a top with good english. I think he is a student. I asked him how much he wanted, so probably just gave a random number as 1000. I agreed but told him that I expect actions to my satisfaction. My main worry was that he is not professional, thus doesn't know how to handle or satisfy clients. We met at my apartment and he was close enough to try (good thing about grindr guys). He did get hard but I don't think he was attracted to me, so it was not like BF experience, so I finished it quickly and paid without tips. Just a side note, I was also recommended to check out a cinema place by the Diagonal station. It was a bit confusing but at entrance I paid 120 and got a condom, so I was like, Oh now I get it. The first floor has two gay movies where gay guys hang out and mess around a lot. It was mostly older guys, one or two guys who are in late 20s. So wasn't my taste. I went up, there are quite a few rooms to check out. The best one was in between 2nd and 3rd floor. It played really nice straight porn. I saw some girls or ladyboys, couldn't tell the difference. There were a lot of actions there including gay ones. Then I went up to check out the 3rd floor. I saw a few ladies and one of them approached me and started talking to me in Spanish. I said no espanol and went away but she was a bit resistant, I must say. In any case, I wasn't interested in her or even paying...So either way no business for me. I walked around a bit and saw two skinny young guys. Both of them were not my type but I saw one of them counting some cash after getting blown, so my guess is that the old guy who blowed him actually paid. So there are some hiring going on there. I wasn't sure about the other young guy but he seemed to like a guy who was in his late 20s or early 30s. Good body, but couldn't see the face very well. The young guy approached him and started jerking him off and giving him a head. So the young guy seemed like a total bottom. But the other guy kept looking at me while being sucked. After a while the guy stops the young guy and walks around. When he passed by, he was checking me out, so I gave the look that I was interested. He started touching me and we made out and eventually finished a round. Using google translator, I got his number but he was from Brazil. I thought bottoming for him would be fun because he had a nice boy and kissed really passionately. So contacted him on wahtsapp. After that I just left the cinema because I was happy to have a nice time without paying. However, I couldn't meet with the guy later because I was busy trying out some escorts...Bummer. Instead of Argentinians I hired, it would have been more fun to bottom for the brazilian from the cinema. And for free! I also used Tinder to test the water. I have this moe called "successful", I have photos that indicate I am a successful guy. Sometimes I change my profile to this mode when I travel to low income countries, hoping to attract some younger guys who admire successful guys. I usually get some matches wherever I travel. In Argentina, I got only two matches: one argentinian and the other was from Colombia. The colombian guy didn't speak English well so couldn't meet but the argentinian guy didn't even respond to my message. Overall, I felt the guys in Argentina very difficult and a bit arrogant. For example, I had about 10 matches in Santiago in much shorter time and they all responded and wanted to meet. But I couldn't manage to meet any of them because I was busy with sightseeing and hiring boys. Tinder guys are not the escort quality in terms of looks etc but they do give more authentic bf experiences, so I keep that option. It probably worked better in Chile than in Argentina. But I wouldn't even bother opening tinder in Argentina if I go there again. Will explore it more in CHile and Brazil (more to come about it in the next post about Brazil). Also, some guys in this forum suggested guys might be interested in rich guys. I don't dress like a rich guy, very typical american casual dress code. Even so, in many countries I do get checked out or have eye contacts. But in Argentina, I must say I didn't feel anything at all. In contrast, I have got a lot more interests even on streets or in clubs in Santiago. But I was with friends all the time, so I couldn't just go and talk to them.

I put in my Grindr title "Businessman looking for Fun" that works well in Brazil, Mexico and Calif!

To continue my story... the second guy Rodrigo arrived on saturday morning. He was fun as person. But as far as sex is concerened he was not gay, he was not bi. He was having problem, to have sex with men or with me. So after saturday night in Scenarium, i have decided that in the morning i will have to let him go. Originally, i planned that he will stay a few days with me. Scenarium was perfect as far as music is concerened. On saturday they had 2 bands that really kicked the feet. It is great opportunity to watch how better off brazilians (and tourists have fun) the food is lousy. When i was i thinking, i really had a problem how to fire Rodrigo. I was afraid that he might not like being fired and that he may do something bad This is why we went to breakfast out and i told him there. Lucky me, he took it well. After breakfast ihe was out in 5 minutes. I paid him 300 R for one day, no tip. The beach was not much fun today. Big wawes, water often flooded the chairs, which we had to move. No chance to swim. Because of weather crowd on ipanema beach was not a usual crowd. I returned from beach early for short nap. I wanted to go to 117 after that. I obviously still feel jet leg. So i had a very very long nap. At 20.00 i have felt, that is to late to go to 117. So i started to play on Grindr. A lot of boys. All possibel. Locals, tourists, young tourists from brazil and south america and a lot garotos. Garotos tend to be more expensive on grindr. Probably, because they can score max twice in an evening. I started to talk to a nice boy age 26. Unshaved, nice hair, smile and body. It was strange negotiation. We agreed on 150 R for a session. He said that i should pay extra if i want that we go to dinner. I declined. And 5 minutes later he is suggesting that we go to dinner. We have met at balada mix on farme de amoedo. He looked better than on pictures and he was to talk to. He finished university and he can not get a job. Now he works in one of the baraccs on the beach. And you all now, how good must of this guys look. This is how he looked. Better than on pictures that he sent me. We had a nice very long session. We showered together twice. He left around midnight with a large tip today Leo is coming to stay a few days. He is 21 year old student of biology who i met on the internet. Let' s see how that goes....