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I've never met one that had better shoes than moi, but several have been given shoes of equal value lol!

Thanks for the responses. I must have missed some contents. I offered 100 when they said 150 but was kindly rejected so I thought it was because I am a tourist with no Protuguese. How do you negotiate when they say no to 100? Also, pricing wise, I think I got charged only when I asked for extra. When I rent a room, do condoms and lube come for free or do I have to pay every time? Today I went to Fragata and it was mostly tanned Brazilians in all shape as discussed earlier. But I liked this place as well because guys were a bit more like Thermas in Barcelona and easily finished two rounds within an hour or so. Also I liked their Suite with mirror on ceiling. It was so hot! The rooms were cheaper than Lagos with free condom and lubes. But one thing that I couldn't understand was two different pricing. I thought it was for cash vs credit card but when I paid by cash, I still got charged for the higher price (60 for entry vs 48, and 30 for suite vs 20). Can anyone tell me the two different prices? Finally, I found a really nice guy at Lagoa but he was not coming to sauna when I texted. But he kindly offered me to come to his place. It is in downtown area of Sao Paulo, so I wasn't sure if I should visit in the evening, so I said some other time. Is it safe to visit these guys at their apartment? Also, do they really live alone or rent a place nearby for an hour or so to receive a client? Does anyone have insights into this situation?

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I am familiar with sauna Thermas in BCN...but correct me if i'm wrong. In Thermas there are free rooms, which are just "boxes" of around 4 sq. meters of surface, while bigger and far better suites do have a cost. But I don't remember how much it is (maybe 15€/hr?). The going rate in Thermas is 50 (standard) to 70€ (uncommon). The going rate in SP as in Rio is not R$150 (42€), but 100 (28€). With some guys it may take some negotiation but that's it. No one will refuse R$100, unless they're very demanded. And in any case you're not getting asked for more because you're a tourist...but maybe because you're new. So in the best case scenario in SP you're paying something like R$130 (37€) including the R$25 room price, compared to the 65€ in BCN. But the huge difference is the quality of the guys.