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I was propositioned by many Romanian and Polish guys on the street as I was cruising late at night. I ended up going to a place a few blocks from Paragonya that was a bar with a cruisy area, or maybe it was like a sex club--I can't recall the name, and couldn't find it online, so maybe it is gone. As I recall, there was a part of the bar that had hallways and cubicles, and lots of guys milling around, including lots of working guys. Only one guy appealed to me, but I was out of money, so I just kind of hung out and cruised for a few hours hoping to hook up with a local, but it seemed to be pretty much working guys and customers only. The guy I liked was a big, hugely muscled black guy with an accent, from the Ivory Coast, and he kept hitting me up and I kept turning him down, because it was my last night and I truly was out of money. At the end of the night, he said, OK, come on, let me f*ck you. For free. I don't normally bottom, and that c*ck was huge, but the scene and the guy were so hot that I bent over and took it (safely, of course). He worked me over very well and I got off almost without touching myself. It was one of the hottest experiences of my life up to that point.

I disagree that ALL the smiles and chit chat are fake... if you are a genuinely nice person and interesting, real friendships can be formed.... not with all the boys, but it happens. I'm in touch with several guys that either were working boys or workers at the saunas and here we are 15 yrs later and we still talk/message. Tomcal too is a really nice guy (sometimes) and he too has some of the similar friendships. I also go to restaurants, hotels, flights and like someone else mentioned Dr's & Lawyers.... all there for your money, paid to be nice....but friendships can be formed if there is a chemistry or similar interests. The public toilet comment eludes me

- As the proverb goes - "Half a loaf is better than none." -

Hi Guys, The ongoing debate on garotos in SP showing-or-not their meat brought this naughty question to mind. Since apparently some of them some of the time are wanking in public (in order to entice customers), what would happen if this activity is upgraded? For example: I approach the garoto I like, slip him some bills, kneel btw his legs, and suck to our hearts content..... What would happen? Is this formally and explicitly forbidden? Would the garoto object? Would the management throw me out? How would others react? Has this happened before? Just a thought.....actually a fantasy, but I would like your insights. (-:

I don’t know what the fee request is at present, but if it is R$100, then don’t worry, for with the exchange rate being as it is, that is not much money at all. Don’t expect to pay what the locals pay, for the guys at the saunas don’t expect to receive from a tourist what he receives from a local. When I traveled to both Rio and to Sao from 2002 until 2011, I paid no more than R$100; I did not do any overnighters. Read the other threads regarding fee requests at the saunas in Brasil. Also, note the economy in Brasil has tanked, and if the quoted fee is R$100- R$150 plus, negotiate. The final, agreed to amount is the guy’s choice.

I believe some clarification is necessáry regading my recent posts: I was trying to let somebody that seems unfamiliar to Brazilian saunas that the gorgeous guys seen in pictures are very unlikely to Walk around stark naked with a hard-on and even the guys that do it would never agree to a blow Job in plain view. Some people that has never been to Brazil fantasyzes is a place where everything goes and is not exactly, some stuff is just unnaceptable. Regarding the atractiveness of sleaze boys, if they look attractive to you it's all that matters, who cares what the majority thinks? The important thing is getting the one you expect will give you a good time. Regarding the sleaziness depending on each one fantasy, that's exactly the Point, right? So if is your case just get the public wanker, Take him to a suite and have a ball, nothing wrong with it. Regarding boys wearing a brief I totally agree, they most likely have a small Dick, although they are not necesserally snotty, in many cases they know their dicks are not their main selling point and they try to avoid nixing a deal right up front. In my case if I don't see it even in a quick flash is a total deal breaker, I don't care how attractive the guy is. I believe the customer is entitled to see the product he is paying for. Regarding the chit-chat for me is totally part of the experience. The sound of the voice of the guy I fancy is the sound of heaven.

Perhaps, but his ass farts will still smell Smoky......

Laughing my ass off...I noticed that. He doesn't even inhale. What a pussy.

It's alright...I wasn't planning on kissing him. It's kind of hard to smell his cigarette breath with his face buried in a pillow...

OP, not to be insensitive, but this mini-rant is coming from someone who has also just complained of being manhandled outside of the sauna scene?

All that nasty, sweaty, filthy HOMO-sex, cum dripping from every orifice. Disgusting! Lord, save them from their sins.

My answer: NO. I love the Brazilian sauna culture. I find it relaxing and engaging. Some people enjoy winding down at coffee shops, at a movie theatre, or watching TV. I much prefer a trip to the sauna. It's not for everyone. If you don't like it or tire of it (or it tires of you), then find something else to do with your time. Problem solved.

Sorry, but we have to disagree on that, I really don't see the top-notch boys masturbating around or walking around naked with a hard-on just because they don't have to. The few ones that do it are always the same ones, usually well-endowed, and they do it cause is their only Point of attraction, if they did not show it nobody would bother, and still only certain people cares. I do not know the level of your Portuguese but I talk with a lot of those guys and the fact that society (we) perceive them as a bunch of low-lifes that have to sell their bodies to make a living does bother a lot of them, specially the ones that do it cause there is no other alternative, so they like to show a sense of self-worth to their peers and to the customers that know them by name. In São Paulo's Lagoa, the sense of hierarchy reachs the verge of absurd where the top boys just wear street-clothes, towels are beneath them, they stick around in little cliques, just talk among themselves and to be seen walking around on anything but designer outfits means an outsider status forever. To make things worse not every boy in street clothes are actually attractive, some just like to pretend and sell this imagem to the customers and to be admitted in the in-crowd. Is a known fact that the once popular night "boys nus", " naked boys" at 117 had to come to an end because only attracted the most undesirable boys, check around, is part o the annals of Rio's sauna scene culture. Similar night at Meio Mundo (actually a "towell optional" night) came to an end very likely de to the fact that was a vision from hell. Finally calling as "timids" the ones that don't Walk around naked and masturbate in plain view is descrinbing as such a good 90% % or more of the boys, even some unnatractive ones that have a sense of self-respect.

I can think of two reasons for public sex: 1. OP is too cheap. 2. He is an exhibitionist. ( why don't you tell the management that you are an exhibitionist and want to play in public but still pay for the room fee?)

There is an unbelievable sense of hierarchy among sauna boys. A boy seeing masturbating in public or walking around naked with a hard-on is telling to his colleagues he is cheap and ain't worth much and is perceived as such by the regular customers, so only the most undesirable ones go to these extremes, hoping they can catch an eventual size queen. Seeing a guy stark naked standing around is not a common sight, specially the upper half. Regarding a blow Job in the social areas I have never seen despite beeing dozen of times at the saunas and I believe would not be toleranted, even at a steam room would be extremely unusual and would make the other customers unconfortable, I've seen a couple times very discreetly and the room was nearly empty with people walking away as soon as they open the steam door. That would not be toleranted either by the management. These practices would be better off at at some sex clubs with everybody naked (mandatory, no clothes allowed), there are several in both Rio (clube do ape) and São Paulo (RG Bar, Clube dos Pauzudos).

January 2016 Barcelona Update for Rent Boys I met few other punters at Thermas. They all said the price should be no more than 50, and some will take 40 E, although might ask for much more at first chat. I paid 50-70 as I like to top and expect both of us to have a happy ending. Thursday had enough boys and a range of types and even more on Friday. No shortage of twinks and moderately muscular guys. I was with one guy named David from Brazil who at first gave some of the best head I have ever had. He was a bit older but lean and muscular. Seemed busiest around 1800 - 1900 hrs, but likely busy from 1700. I was also told that some clients enter at lunch time for a hook up with their regular boy. On some regular gay hook up mobile phone sites there were a few very cute twinks. Likely best to meet first and then decide in case the pics or the vibe do not match. Someone else, who knows the gay scene in Spain and speaks fluent Spanish should update this info.

It is a good idea to begin the process of obtaining a visa as soon as possible. Most Brazilian consulates now require an appointment in order to submit a visa application and it can take time to get an appointment. For example I just noticed that the next available appointment time at the Los Angeles consulate is on February 24. And it can then take another week or 10 days for the visa to be issued. Have a great time in Brazil!