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Halfway through the Citations and References Section, our Complainant decides it's easier to banish himself.

---- "The Finding for Suspension shall require a vote in the affirmative by at least 50% + 1 voting with a minimum of nine votes in the affirmative. Consequently, a minimum of 19 members must participate with at least 9 voting in the affirmative." ---- LOL, and what are the chances that 19 regulars will voluntarily jump into a very public brawl here on BoyToy? Oz, you sneaky old dog, with that as the threshold criteria, we would be hard put to evict Attila the Hun. So you've effectively banned us from banning anyone while simultaneously seemingly shifting the full onerous responsibility onto the membership. Thought you'd slip that one by me, did you? Hahahahaha...I thought you were supposed to be busy doing something important in India with the programmers? [Hmmm... I guess none of them has a cute ass...]

Newark?

That's OK. Billy peed in the bag anyway.

Depends on how long and how recent. What is more telling is the cover-up but isn't that always the case. This guy is a lying thug. You know a Mayor, any Mayor, is up to his ass in gators when he blames blatant illegal actions on being "in a drunken stupor". lol I wonder what he blames six months of in-public bare-faced lies on?

We have banned very few people on this site. However, we do get demands from time to time by individuals to do just that. Individuals who feel they have been abused or otherwise sufficiently aggrieved, to warrant banning a member. We as admins have to take the broad view of what is good for the community as a whole regarding contributors and personalities. We believe a broad community is the most interesting to more people. That requires tolerating different personalities. Where to draw lines about what cannot be tolerated is a sometimes a simple question and sometimes more subtle. We draw bright lines in the Site Policy regarding personal information, stalking, and agenda prosecution. The fainter lines are more difficult to draw. Where does a thin skin or abrasive personality stop and abuse start? Where does a sometimes abrasive personality cross a line into chronic abuse, even more, abuse that warrants the death penalty? What is the overall balance of an individual's contributions versus occasional irritations generated. How easy is it to ignore a curmudgeon by walking the other side of the street or turning on the ignore button? We as admins do not like being asked to impose a penalty on a member due to one individual's estimate of perceived infractions of etiquette and decorum, especially when there are remedies that help people avoid who they do not like. On the other hand, these individuals feel we are not listening them and their concerns and they grow frustrated. It is often the same people who request this but they have stated that others feel the same and that they fear that if they speak up, nothing will be done as the admins 'protect their favorite posters'. As mentioned earlier, we, the Admins, feel that who is allowed to be a member and who is not, and what behavior is just too abrasive/abusive to tolerate, affect the entire community. Therefore it ought to be left to the 'participating community' to determine. For myself, I can't find one person that is a regular poster that I would ban. However, after getting emails and PM's from long time posters questioning my ability to determine if a poster should be disciplined, I think that TY and I as admins need to step aside and let those who feel we need a new direction, make one. And, we as Admins will abide by the decision. It is for the above circumstances and reasons that we have decided to establish a procedure whereby members can bring forth a complaint about abusive behavior by individuals in the community and whether it rises to the level that should be banned from temporary or permanent participation. This will provide mechanism for aggrieved members to make a complaint about abusive behavior with the disposition ranging from no action warranted to permanent ban, depending on history. The Process will be called a Hearing of the Comity Commission (CC). Members of the Commission shall be forum members who meet the criteria set out below. This gives the community a say over who deserves suspension or banning. Any member who wishes another member to be suspended from posting can accomplish this IF a sufficient number of other members of our community agree. The Penalties: A first finding of 'Engaging in Conduct Abusive or Other Intolerable Behavior' will result in suspension of forum participation for a period of 90 days. A second finding of 'Engaging in Conduct Abusive or Otherwise Intolerable Behavior' will result in forum membership privileges revoked permanently. Members of the Comity Committee: All legitimately registered members of the forum who meet ALL the following participation conditions are defacto members of the Comity Committee with voting rights: 1. active forum participants for the prior 6 months, 2. with a minimum 200 posts total on the site, and 3. with a minimum of 15 posts in the prior 6 months. Participation of Commission Members is voluntary. One may choose to vote or not. Establishing a Complaint Who May Make a Complaint? A complaint of abusive behavior can be lodged by any legitimately registered Forum Member against another Forum Member. Any member lodging a complaint is limited to one accepted complaint against the same Accused every six months. The Admin can lodge a complaint without time limits. Moving the Complaint to the Hearing Stage At least two members must make a complaint against the same individual to initiate a Hearing. These 2 members may contact the Admin via PM. If only one member complains then the Complaint Process is terminated. If two complain, then Admin shall post a Complaint Announcement Thread, announcing that a complaint has been made against a Forum Member, name given, for Abusive or Otherwise Intolerable Behavior. The complainant's screen names shall be published so that the Accused shall know his Accusers. This gives the Accused an opportunity to contact his Accusers in order to work out their differences. An Admin initiated complaint automatically moves to the Hearing stage with the posting of a Hearing Thread. The Admin shall notify the Accused of the Complaint. Establishing the Hearing Thread The Hearing Process is initiated with publication of Complaint. The accused offender and the two (or more) complainants will be identified. Each complainant, identified by his screen name, shall offer his complaint against the alleged offender. It can be long or short but must be substantiated with evidence of offense, eg. citations, references and/or examples of abusive behavior. (Presumably the stronger the case, the more likely the outcome.) Failure by either complainant to provide any substantive case will result in dismissal of the complaint and termination of the process. Withdrawal of the Complaint by either or both of the Complainants shall cause the Hearing Process to be terminated without any action against the Accused. (At least two Accusers must participate in order to avoid actions driven by 'personality conflicts'.) The Accused Forum Member shall be strongly encouraged to state his defense or apology/mea culpa in response to the Accusers. Each Accuser shall be entitled to one rebuttal to the Accused's defense. The Accuser shall be entitled to make a response to each Complainant's rebuttal. That closes the arguments in the Hearing Proceedings. (Other discussion open to any forum member can be held in external threads subject to standard Site Policies and community civility standards.) The Duration of the Hearing Process The Hearing Process starts with the Publication of the Complaint Thread. The two (or more)complainants must lay out their initial case with 24 hours of the Complaint Thread opening or it will be terminated and closed if less than two comply. The Accused will be notified and encouraged to make a timely response. At this point it is the responsibility of the parties to remain engaged for the submission of rebuttals and responses. The Hearing Proceedings shall be held open for one week only. During that interval any and all defacto Comity Committee Members are encouraged to get and remain engaged and, after arguments have been presented, cast an up or down vote to affirm or deny the charge of 'Engaging Abuse or Other Intolerable Behavior'. The vote results are public and voting is public. Voter screen name shall be associated with the vote. The Findings The Finding for Suspension shall require a vote in the affirmative by at least 50% + 1 voting with a minimum of nine votes in the affirmative. Consequently, a minimum of 19 members must participate with at least 9 voting in the affirmative. The Finding for Banishment shall require a vote in the affirmative of two-thirds of all voting with a minimum of twelve for Banishment. Admins cannot vote.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/travel/in-rio-and-sao-paulo-go-north.html?smid=pl-share If you watch the video, mocoto, which they neglected to translate, is actually a specialty here - marrow. At the 2:20 mark, the food market here makes their own ice cream which is quite nice At the 3:34 mark, Seth gets saved by a guy in a sunga who offered himself up to me one afternoon after gaining entrance to my yard by some subterfuge about comparing our lawncare regimens. He is currently married to quite a cute little dyke.

Me too. Even if I do get a little envious at times, lol.

Thank you, AS. Nice to know that at least one person here took my plea for help seriously. Now if I can just give up cokes, straws, my nicotine gum, chew more slowly and fix my dentures, folks might be willing to sit on my side of the table down at the coffee shop. Of course it might help too if I took a shower a little more often.

Occasionally, I forget that Totally Oz is a lawyer. I won't forget today! I hope that no one gets banned and that we all treat each other with respect, even when we disagree.

Agree. When your best excuse for doing crack is "Well I must have been all liquored up..."!

Say useless, how are the conversational Spanish lessons coming along? Muy bien, yo espero. I took Conversational Spanish 4 times, repeating the entry level class each time. I can get by in Spanish, but it's rather laughable. Once upon a time, while walking with a new friend in Acapulco, he told me that my Spanish was awful. But, I replied, it was good enough to get you to my hotel room! We both laughed, and he agreed that I was right. I realize that you may not have started yet, so I posted just to see, and to encourage you to follow through.

Hasn't tomcal's return been a real boost to this forum? I am so glad that he is back to posting here.

Ill take the Big stiff one on a guy "below ground" as well ! You always need to keep your Options Open.

I'll be in India for the entire month of November and part of December with my programming team. It is very tiresome work and I can't post as much this month. I apologize and if you see less of me, please understand. I have been working on quite a few new projects and need to be in speaking distance of my team here to get the work done faster. I don't have much to report other than it was a famous Indian holiday last weekend called Diwali. It is their festival of lights and the city was alive with color. Here is one sand sculpture they made for us at the hotel and another one with flowers that my team made in my honor for our lunch that day.

Or, phrased more precisely, got so hammered last year he could puff crack and not remember doing it... and then got hammered in public again last Spring... and then got hammered again at his office in August... or so it's reported.

Should A History of Smoking Crack Disqualify One From Office? Yes,

As always fabulous report. I LOVED the 3 way photo. LOL Slut! Sorry, it has taken a while to see this as I am in India and working 10 hours a day in the daytime and come back to hotel and crash after dinner. You have now given me reason to drink coffee during dinner so I can see what is happening with your sexcapades. I love them. Thank you for sharing. Now, onto something even more important (LOL) for me. Did anyone ask you where your fat friend was that tipped too much? I don't care what they say, as long as they remember me.

I'm only interested in ONE kind. GUESS ?

Pretty good...!

Nice to hear from you Tomcal and your adventures in Rio. You should be soon in Porto Alegre. I am waiting for detailed reports on the boys there since I will be there at the end of November ... Enjoy your time in Brazil !

Grandpa died quietly in his sleep today but his children and grandchildren who were riding in the back of the airplane he was flying screamed all the way to the ground. Best regards, RA1

My friend Barr and I used this agency in 2011 and were indeed pleased. Two other friends of ours have used it as well. The good thing about this agency is their professionalism. My agent took me to the apartment where we sat and finalized the contract, but with its properties, one knows beforehand whether guests are allowed or not allowed, etc. So the agency knows what perhaps will/can happen in some of their apartments [which is quite all right, for Brasilians supposedly believe that what happens behind closed doors is NO one's business except for the occupants. I know you asked a simple query of TomCal, but I felt that I wanted my fingers to caress my computer keys and respond here! [When Barr and I checked out, another agent came to the apartment, did not check it in our presence, but he did return my few hundreds of dollars which I'd paid as a deposit. His demeanor and basic mode of operation were refreshing, indeed! Shortly after he left, Barr and I got into our respective cars and were driven to the airport!]

I see you have the same problem that I have, but in triplicate. THAT FUCKING LENCOL/SHEET REFUSES TO STAY ON THOSE CRAPPY VINYL-COVERED MATRESS!!!

Tom,it's so nice to hear about your latest trip to Rio. And it's a comfort to know that you were there in time for Sunday services. It helps you set an example for the others. I expect that this trip will be a huge success as long as you get your rest, eat right, and don't stay out to late! But be safe, and let us know all about it.

Il Papa is much more of the common man. He would definitely minister to those poorer boys who make their way to the more derelict Clube New Meio Mundo. Actually, almost the whole house was watching the Pope's arrival on TV as he took a zig-zag tour through Centro, entering via Ave. Presidente Vargas. On of the boys who works at both saunas told me that frequent Saturdays and Sundays receive a couple of priests. After all, between Masses they must minister to their flock and the palace of the cardinal is just around the corner at Benjamin Constant.