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Oh The Years They Are A Showin'
wayout and one other reacted to marcanthony for a topic
agreed. and johnny rotten was never there, IMO. now johnny RAPID... him I would do! http://johnnrapidlovers.tumblr.com/2 points -
This page on the National Park Service web site, part of an article on Manzanar and other relocation sites, gives a good summary of the military rationale, the political and economic pressures also in play, and the various court challenges and rulings: http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/manz/hrse.htm2 points
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According to the U.S. National Archives, "Roosevelt's order affected 117,000 people of Japanese descent, two-thirds of whom were native-born citizens of the United States." http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/japanese-relocation/ Wikipedia gives the figure as 62%, sourced to: Semiannual Report of the War Relocation Authority, for the period January 1 to June 30, 1946, not dated. Papers of Dillon S. Myer. Scanned image at trumanlibrary.org. Retrieved September 18, 2006. "The War Relocation Authority and The Incarceration of Japanese Americans During World War II: 1948 Chronology," Web page at www.trumanlibrary.org. Retrieved September 11, 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment2 points
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I fear that one sad fate will be younger generations forgetting that there even were camps and what happened there. Whether in the US or Europe, the witnesses to these atrocities are dying off quite quickly. My own Mom is waiting to go. In the past two years, three friends of hers who were in the camps in Europe, including one who escaped and became a guerilla fighter in the forests of eastern Europe. One of her best friends of 60 years is locked up in an Alzheimer's ward and its now an anytime thing. In another fifty years will people still remember or care about Manzanar or Kooskia? Auschwitz-Berkenau, Bergen-Belsen or Oranienberg? Or even all of our own civil liberties that we have lost?2 points
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RA1, I expect we're still pretty much on the same path, at least on this issue. If you get a minute, look at my post again. You won't see anything that characterizes this surveillance as 'fair', 'legal' or 'Constitutional'. And the only thing equal about it is that all of us are getting our information hoovered up at the same time. What the NSA so far has been able to 'work around' is the issue of profiling. And that's because all the profiling is done behind a black curtain in Utah. It was real clear when we were profiling Japanese citizens seventy years ago because we kept them behind barbed wire. And it was real clear when we were profiling Muslims in New York because the cameras were mounted right outside their mosques. It took a while for the penny to drop and, if it hadn't been for AdamSmith's most estimable opening post, it would have taken a while longer, but it's pretty clear to me now that the 'data mining' that goes on in Bluffdale is profiling, pure and simple. Doing nothing more than mapping folks' phone calls creates a web of contacts with, for example, a Muslim-of-interest in the middle, and many rings of law-abiding Muslim citizens all around. And the FISA court, if it's even consulted, can expand the ring any time it sees fit, and give the OK for listening to phone calls. If the government actually said it was going to create a map of all U. S. Muslim contacts, there'd be a hue and cry, just as there eventually was with the Japanese camps, and just as there eventually was with snooping on Muslims in New York. And if it actually said it was profiling Tea Party Republicans or Progressive Democrats, which is quite doable with existing technology, the din would never die down. But the profiling that goes on in Bluffdale is hidden behind layers of secrecy and the majority of us haven't yet managed to give a shit. In fact, lots of folks think Edward Snowden should be put in jail for even calling it to our attention. And if the NSA ends up getting away with it, plus other stuff we may never even hear about, I'm going to call that a civil liberties workaround for the ages.2 points
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One of the things to do in the daytime in Bangkok is to go to the mall. There are several malls to go to but we always enjoy our time in Siam Paragon. Siam Paragon is HUGE! All size queens should love this mall. It has just about everything you could possible want. In Thailand, when kids in high school get out of school, many head to the malls. Also, this mall is right next to several Universities and several go there to study, meet friends and just hang out in a cool place. First, in order to get to the mall you can take public transportation or taxis. There are good things and bad things about both. For the Skytrain, it is very easy to get around anywhere that there is a skyway stop. Signs are in English and easy to read and understand. Once you buy you ticket once, you will find it a breeze the rest of the time. When you take a taxi in Bangkok during the day, be prepared for traffic. It is a true PITA to get around the city at times but that also depends on where you travel and if you know the times of the day the main traffic hits. Of course, you can always take a motorcycle taxi which is always ready to get you there faster and get out in front of the traffic. Even the animals are often excited to get to the mall. Once at Siam Paragon, you have many choices of things to do. There is a massive food court. I love the giant aquariums that you can beside. There are tons of great stores. There are places to view and buy luxury cars. There is a great bookstore that has English books but also every other language. There is a massive IMax Movie Theater with seats that are amazing and that have regular theaters and VIP theaters as well as IMax. Always you can find something for HitoallUSA as his BF is everywhere! Naturally, there is also just people watching.1 point
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Max Ryder posted on his Facebook page about a guy that scammed him. I think the guy had promised to buy Amazon gifts but didn't. Max is pissed. I don't blame him but you must see his rant: http://maxryder.com/meet-james-vaughan-hes-a-sick-minded-scam-artist/ "He has been contacting other porn-stars so watch out for this faggot!" Interesting how our discussion on here about the word faggot now comes in and makes me feel uncomfortable when Max uses it.1 point
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After three million souls took to shore of Copacabana, the peregrinos/peregrines are now flying away to almost all countries of the world carrying their message. I had no clue why the travelling worshipers were called peregrines. But I find it all quite interesting. http://www.kaikoraichurch.co.nz/trinity/2011/10/being-peregrine At least more interesting and less stressful than the shuttered metro and filled buses. Basically, Rio just survived a Reveillon x 4. Massive tie-ups in and out of Copa for four days.1 point
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The BF and I went to the movie today at Siam Paragon. This mall is the one I talk about all the time with the cute boys overflowing the walkways. I have never seen such a gathering of beauty in my life. But, we were really early and I decided to go to the bathroom. There was this really cute guy outside, around 18-19 years old, and he was just standing. I found him very attractive and asked him where the bathroom was and he told me. It was right behind him and I knew that but I just smiled at him and winked. He followed me into the bathroom and into a stall. Well, I wasn't ready to have sex as I didn't have a condom on me but we did make out and he ended up giving me a great release and he swallowed every drop. It was a bit dangerous and exciting and scary at the same time. As I was all hot and sweaty when I left and as I had some other juices flowing, I told the BF that I didn't like the seats we were in and that we could come back another day. He was OK with that and we left and I got home and showered. I am not much for bathroom sex, even though from time to time in my life I have had some, but this experience was great. I have been thinking on this today and I can't figure out if the guy was waiting for someone or if he was just taken by the moment of a Farang flirting with him. In either case, I was happy it happened. Have others seen this mall as cruisey? Hooked up there? I have taken boys home from the mall there on a few occasions but never had sex in the bathroom upstairs at the movie. And, the boy was not a money boy. He asked for nothing. He just wanted some protein before the movie started. I have friends who say they get this all the time but at more local venues and not the mall.1 point
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I'm glad to see there are at least a few others on this site who can recognize right from wrong. More WTF moments in this thread than I can comprehend. I have visited the museum in LA dedicated to this terrible part of our nation's toward US citizens of Japanese descent. Funny, but US citizens of German and Italian ancestry were not interned in a series of US based gulags, were they? I don't think so. Not more than a bit of racism? Where were all of the AR residents protesting about their safety against the enemy within their midst? Speak up.1 point
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Gotta agree, he's used up his hyperbole allocation for today, but he must be wondering what else he can try to get us to sit up and take even a little notice of the privacy invasion and profiling story that's been served up to us on a silver platter. Perhaps he'll think of a better way to get our attention.1 point
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The 16th World Bodypainting Festival held earlier this month in Poertschach am Woerthersee, Austria, included artists from 45 nationalities and every continent drawing 29,000 visitors to the Mecca of Bodypainting, according to the World Bodypainting Association. Take a look at some amazing photos on the site: http://designyoutrust.com/2013/07/the-16th-world-bodypainting-festival/1 point
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Had you reversed the order of those two sentences, I'd be in full agreement.1 point
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Can't speak for ihpguy but it would sure be hard for me to drum up respect for an opinion that it's OK for our government to toss its citizens (even one - especially one) into an internment camp without due process. I wouldn't like being 're-located', and I'll bet it's a 'sacrifice' you wouldn't like making either, even if it came with all the food you could eat and all the fuel you could burn. I'll grant you it's better than being cold and hungry, but it's still illegal imprisonment. And the folks who locked you up are the very same folks who could decide one morning that, from now on, it was gruel for you - breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The point is, the moment our government starts behaving extralegally, that's the time to start getting worked up about it. Not tomorrow, and not next year. History is chock full of examples of folks who figured they would never be personally affected by the bad things happening around them. Until they were. Erosion of civil rights doesn't just stop by itself. It takes awareness that it's happening and a commitment to stop it in its tracks. Last week, I watched a program called Hitler on Trial in which a young lawyer named Hans Litten put Hitler in the witness box during a 1931 trial of SA thugs who had stabbed two leftist German workers. Litten's purpose was to expose the violent underpinnings of the Nazi party at a time when Hitler was hellbent on bringing it into the political mainstream. Had Litten succeeded, and had German citizens paid attention, imagine what future anguish could have been avoided. I'm sure I'm 'preaching to the choir' here, RA1, as I believe we see many, if not most, of these issues through the same prism, you should pardon the expression. It's just that I think this is a time for an extra dose of clarity, as there are still many folks who do not yet appreciate what the harvest might be when a government starts treating its own citizens as the 'enemy'. (And it was George Santayana who said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.")1 point
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Still histories that many wish would be hidden or be forgotten. Whether to whatever degree of cruelty. Maybe I am just obtuse, but it seems as if you trying to be an apologist for some uneducated residents of Arkansas with some resentment as to how US CITIZENS were interned by their own government and most of whom lost everything of material value in their lives just because of where there ancestors originated before arriving in the US of A? And do not forget with their lives uprooted and placed into prison camps, many most likely died much earlier than would have been expected had they been allowed to continue living their lives where they had had homes? I remember the father of a friend from college, less than 30 years after the end of World War II, who was a shell of a man, a survivor of Auschwitz. He was on a personal disability check sent monthly from the German government. Very sickly. No money could replace what he had lost nor payment what he had survived. I remember seeing the movie SHOAH and the Poles interviewed who lived near Birkenau 1 & 2 claiming the did not know. I visited the camps in Germany and Poland about ten years ago, they had to know and chose to ignore. Location or quantity of cruelty should not matter. I do not think the feelings of a group of AR residents matter one iota. What is the quote about those that do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it?1 point
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No question, it's easier to hold onto a principle when we're feeling secure than it is when we're afraid. But just because it's hard doesn't mean it's not worth preserving our core values. As the Japanese became our allies after World War II, we began to regret that we had ignored our principles, even as we were fighting to protect them. No one was proud of what we did to our Japanese citizens and, fortunately, we were able to avoid doing the same thing to our Muslim citizens after September 11th. But we had to make a conscious effort to keep away from that cliff and some folks did drift pretty near the edge. We had plenty of worried Muslim citizens a decade ago, and I'm sure there are still some who keep looking over their shoulders. We should take some pride, I think, that we resisted a repeat of the actions we took seven decades ago. Although there's no doubt that we did some significant ethnic profiling after September 11th, and are still doing some today. During the past decade, the New York police department took some heat for mounting cameras near mosques and infiltrating them. But at least, when it became known, there was a public debate, and a renewed agreement that we didn't want a repeat of what we did to our Japanese citizens. One thing that occurs to me now is that, in order to keep such ethnic profiling at bay today, the NSA has devised a workaround that involves profiling everybody. Seventy years ago, we couldn't keep everyone under surveillance, so we rounded up our Japanese citizens and put them inside barbed wire. Ten years ago, strategically placed cameras let us keep many of our Muslim citizens under close watch where they lived and worshipped. Now, to avoid that kind of scrutiny again, and since the technology allows it, our government has decided, in secret, to put everyone under some level of surveillance. As the technology matures, I expect we'll all be under closer watch. And, as our government becomes more and more committed to secrecy, the opportunities for debate will be closed off one by one. At least we don't have armed guards surrounding us. Not every day anyway.1 point
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Respected the US Constitution, same as today. ( Did I pass? )1 point
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Suckrates, you beat me to it.1 point
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hito, its high time you started to allow guys to "touch your stuff".... Try it, you might like it.... and might even MOAN !1 point
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First day in BKK
eeyore reacted to firecat691614502759 for a topic
I have been in Thailand for 3 weeks and have some reports I will share after the trip but thought I would post this to show the type of reasonable Hotels you can get in this wonderful city full of Hot Boys. Checked in yesterday . The rate was $85 a night including breakfast. I have stayed at all the Marriotts in BKK and find this Courtyard very good value for money. First the staff greets you at the front door with a big smile and "How are you Sir" and there is just something more genuine about it. Front desk speaks excellent English and as requested they upgraded me to a Corner Room because of my Gold Status. Now the last few years I have stayed at some of the best serviced apartments in BKK and got quite used to the space. So I approached my room with some trepidation. It was going to be hard not to have kitchen etc but I just don't feel like spending $160 a night for a short 5 night stay. I was pleasantly surprised with the room. Big windows on 2 sides with lots of light. When you first walk in is a large area to place your open bags, plenty of draws and closet space . Safe and small frig which is mostly empty so you can fill it up with stuff from 7/11. Nice desk space with enough outlets and comfortable chair. Good TV with decent channel selections. Comfortable bed with many great pillows. Also one lounge chair very comfortable. A/C very quiet . Bathroom has decent counter space and under sink storage and a window. Big shower with great water pressure and a place to sit down. And fast internet. Will report on breakfast buffet later. Have included some photos , I apologize for the quality because of too much sun. Oh and the boy was in my room an hour after I checked in. I love Gayromeo!1 point -
End of My 30 Days In Thailand
eeyore reacted to firecat691614502759 for a topic
One day to go and I know I have not posted much but it was a funny trip. This is low season and not too many Gay visitors . Frankly I have become increasingly tired of the Bars and have concentrated on my Iphone contacts from previous trips and Gayromeo. Most of the boys I meet on Gayromeo also work the Bars . Spent 24 days in Pattaya and 5 nights in Bangkok Only went to the Bars a few nights. Certainly I not recommend for first time visitors this course of action but it is fine for me. Even for first time visitor I think you should explore Gayromeo and Grindr is very active in Thailand. In Pattaya it just seemed there was a constant flow of new Young talent. Legal but a lot of new 18-20 and they constantly amaze me in how experienced they can be at 18. I am just going to post some candid shots of boys I met and few copies of photos in their profile on Gayromeo. Don't waste your time complaining about how young some of them look. I assure you they are all 18-22 and even one 24 year old. Many Thai boys are only 5'5" and when they are young and small they can look much younger. Why it is important to carefully check id's And besides I like Twinks and so do many others here!1 point -
MBK in Bangkok: A Day in Photos For those that need a cell phone repair or a new phone, the place to go in Pattaya is Tuk Com but the place to go in Bangkok is MBK. They have a massive section for cell phone sales, repair, etc. However, every time we tried to take out our cameras, we were asked to put them away. LOL I guess they didn't want photos of all the knock offs? MBK is also a mall with a ton of stores and places to eat. It also has a movie theater. MBK is often the place where my boys say they want to shop when they have some money to spend on clothes. Siam Paragon is for high end shoppers and I can't afford most of the stores there but I love the food court. However, MBK is much more affordable and many Thai's love shopping there. I like the movie theater there and have seen my fair share of movies at MBK. I don't like their food court as much as most other malls in this area but the boys like it as it has a lot of Thai food. All in all, MBK is a fun experience if you have not been there.1 point