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Edge Of Seventeen Overall, gay films usually fall into one of two basic types super-sad tragedies or ultra-camp comedies. While straight people get a wide varieties of genres, Hollywood seems to want films about the gay community to either deal with AIDS, homophobia, or silly drag queens. This is what makes Edge of Seventeen stand out. It's neither of the usual tropes it's just a movie about teenagers where the central character happens to be gay. It's structured like St. Elmo's Fire in the sense that there is no logical starting or ending point. It's just a bit of time in the lives of these people in the midwest dealing with shit that teenagers deal with. That it resembles St. Elmo's Fire shouldn't be a total shock, since it's set in the early 80s whatever year Bronski Beat had their 15 minutes of fame. You can tell through various winks and nods that the people who made this flick watched every single John Hughes film from the era. The main characters are Eric and Maggie, two seventeen-year-olds who have lived next door to each other forever. She considers him her boyfriend; he considers her his best friend. She clearly has no gaydar at all, since Eric dresses like a cross between Ducky from Pretty In Pink and the bass player for Flock Of Seagulls and has her put lipstick, eyeliner and a multitude of haircare products on him before they go out anywhere. Maggie can sort of be forgiven this, given that Eric does kiss her and does tell her he loves her. You get a sense that maybe both of these kids know what's going on here, but don't want to look the obvious straight in the face. Or, they may simply be very naïve and need to wait for life to happen before they figure things out. That the film lets you interpret it either way makes for interesting thought and discussion when the end credits roll. The two of them get a job at a rib shack in a theme park over the summer where the manager is lesbian named Angie (played perfectly by Lea DeLaria), and there is an out and proud college dude working alongside them. Both Angie and the college dude named Rod immediately figure out that Eric is gay, but mostly keep their mouths shut about it. Rod waits until the last day the park is open for the summer, and then seduces Eric into mutual oral sex. This is when we get our second sign that this is not a typical Hollywood movie, because the sex is as explicit as you can get without being actual porn. Eric wakes up the next day convinced he's in love with Rod. But when he reaches out to Rod a few days later, he finds out that Rod only wanted to do him because he'd never been with a guy before and that shit turns him on. Meanwhile, Maggie is upset that Eric isn't trying to bone her so that night, when she and Eric go to a house party, she starts flirting heavily with one of the dickweed jocks there. Eric, realizing he should feel jealous, storms out; but instead of going home, he heads to the only gay bar in the area. Inside he finds out that Angie's new job is managing the bar, and even though he's ridiculously underage, she lets him in and gets him drunk. Another college age guy then chats him up, and they end up in the guy's car with the dude giving Eric his first rim job leading to this hilarious exchange of dialogue: Shouldn't you wear a condom? For my tongue? It should come as no shock that this guy, like Rod, only wanted some sex and refuses to even talk to Eric or give him his number once the rimming has been completed. Eric freaks the fuck out and heads over the Maggie's place, where he tells her what's been going on. She's still not completely sold on him being gay despite the fact that he's been with two dudes and has never even touched her boobs. They agree to continue dating. The next weekend, he invites her on a date to Angie's gay bar. Maggie takes so much time getting ready in order to impress/seduce Eric that she shows up about an hour late, at which point Eric is making out with another douchecanoodle college dude on the dance floor. Maggie freaks the fuck out on Eric and says she never wants to see him again. This causes Eric to be so upset that he actually finds Rod's college dorm room and throws himself at Rod. Rod lets him in, but makes it clear it's only because Eric has never been fucked up the ass and his fetish with virgin territory remains strong. As you would expect, once he's done fucking Eric, he blows him off. Eric then tracks Maggie down and tells her about this. And she is like, Dudes just want sex, figure it out. And he's like, I want love. And she's like, Well, if you want love, you should fuck me instead of getting fucked by meathead college dudes. So, he finally fucks her and both of them are shocked when he's completely unimpressed with pussy. That's when she tells him to eat shit and die and never talk to her again. Then, he goes back to the gay bar and starts dancing with a bunch of guys. Has he decided to find love with dudes, or has he decided just to be a gay slut? The movie doesn't tell us. It just ends. What makes the film fascinating, beyond the fact that there isn't really a comparable gay film, is that it all seems very real. While neither Eric nor Maggie make particularly intelligent decisions, they seem like the kind of fucked-up decisions real teens would make. And, that's a trope straight teens have been able to see in countless movies, so it's nice to see it in a film not directed at straight teens. The one downside is that the film is so explicit that I doubt most teens were able to actually see it when it came out. cc boytoy.com 2013

What is PNP? Question: I'm always seeing the term "pnp" and "411" and "420" just what do they mean. Hope my question isn't too lame or dumb. Thanks, pussyhole4u Answer: Dear PNP Clueless, I may not be the person for this question as I am not into PNP. However, I do play with those that do PNP. So, here goes: PNP = Party and Play that means that the person is into doing some drugs while they fuck. This can mean different things to different people. Some like to PNP with 420 (also referred to as weed, Mary Jane, nug, bud, or just plain and simple Marijuana). I think weed heightens the sex drive for some people and makes the sex more exciting. For me, it puts me to sleep. Some may like to play with T (Tina, Crystal Meth). In the bathhouses in NYC this seems to be the drug of choice. I have been to the West Side Club on more than one occasion and felt like I was the only one not on Crystal. That meant I had quite a few willing bottoms to plow. Perhaps the easiest to get of the PNP drugs is X or Extasy. This is a pill that "makes you feel good" so they say. When someone touches you it makes you feel all tingly inside. Of of the most potent drugs is GHB or G. This comes in liquid form and is often referred to as the rape drug. Some may like to PNP with cocain, poppers, K or any number of substances. In other words, when someone says they PNP, be sure you ask what they are into. It may mean different things for different folks. Best of luck!

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Milk is a "gay hero", Madonna is a "gay icon."

I see Gotti's point: that "icon" is not the same as "role model" or "hero to the community." Rather "icon" here partakes of at least something of its original religious-symbol sense -- or at least the modern "public imago" version of it. Both have their valid functions in the public imagination, seems to me.

Madonna is a gay activist but this has nothing to do with her being a gay icon. She is an icon because besides being beautiful she is the ultimate slut, the one every queen worth their salt would like to be able to get away with it. Milk is certainly a remarkable guy, but does he knows how to express himself with his eyebrows the same way Crowford does? Is he able to carry himself in a Halston outfit with the same aplomb as Diana? Does his use of mascara is particularly inspiring to you? If the answer to these questions is no, he still might be an untouchable gay hero but not an icon. Got it?

I am having a good time. Matilda is another play that was really good. I believe they brought the entire cast from London over. The children were very talented and I hated for the show to end. I suspect this will be getting several Tony nominations. Bette Midler in I'll Eat You Last was fantastic. It was done without intermission and lasted about 90 minutes. Not a bad seat in the house (and we were almost against the wall). However, the set is a replica of a living room and you felt like you were right there next to her. FYI, if anyone else is planning to see this, don't be late. There is no seating once the curtain goes up. The final play we saw was The Nance. This is a MUST SEE. It's in the oldest continually in-use theatre (built in 1903). Unfortunate the seats and leg room haven't been updated since it opened. But the theatre is very ornate and it was like stepping back in time. The play is about a "nance" (an actor who does commedy routines between burlesque acts). Nathan Lane played Chancey Miles who was an openly gay nance in the 1930's. The story revolved around his life, relationships, job hazards, and gave a very compelling look at gays during that period. There is one scene where Miles' lover is seen full frontal nude. OMG, I nearly fainted he was so cute. I am so grateful we added this to our list. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough time to see everything we wanted. One on my list that I didn't see was Ann (a one-woman play about Ann Richards). Several in our tour group did go and they rated that as the best play of the tour (above Bette Midler and Kinky Boots). However, I'm not disappointed with our choice of plays. Just wish we could have added one more. I was a little concerned about safety and security in NYC. It wasn't a problem. We traveled anywhere we wanted on the subways. Felt very safe in Times Square. Even enjoyed some time walking around Central Park. In short, this was a wonderful and much-needed vacation. I love Broadway and had an enjoyable time. Now, back to work so I can save for my next trip.