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I have said for many years that my next long term place to call home is going to be either Brazil or somewhere in Europe. I love Thailand but I do feel that I will make a change in 2013. I hope that some of you here will help me. I have wanted to move to Brazil for a long time. The biggest difference between Brazil and Thailand is the ease at which a foreigner can move and live comfortably. There are literally tons of serviced apartments in every Thai city. I can easily find a furnished apartment in Thailand for a cheap price and it is very nice and comfortable. Check out www.condo6.com for a few choices in Pattaya, Thailand. Check out Marriott Executive Apartments or Ascott Condo in Bangkok. In both of the above, you can easily find a decent high end place for 1200-1500 USD per month. And, they are fully furnished. I have yet to find similar places in Brazil that would be so easy to move into. There is a place in Porto Alegre that I found: http://www.shortstaybrazil.com/ And, in Brazil in general: http://www.vrbo.com/ But, most of these are looking for short stays of a week or a month as opposed to one year or longer and some don't give decent rates for even a long term stay. I would prefer to live in Rio or Sao Paulo in Brazil but I have found that the apartments there require a one year upfront payment which I just won't do unless you have a Brazil guarantor. I guess my real preference is Sao Paulo as I find it easy to get around there and I know it a bit better than I do Rio but either place would be find. I did look at Porto Alegre and I know I would love the boys but I think I would be very isolated and not be able to make "English speaking" friends. Another reason I love Thailand is the abundance of foreigners that live here it is so easy to find "friends" to hang out with from time to time that are not working boys. And, as I only speak English, that makes it harder to communicate with the locals. Lastly, a visa is not a problem for me in Brazil. I have the ability to stay in the country for an unlimited time frame and do not have to worry about exiting the country every few months. This site lists the countries price index. While Paris is my first city of choice, it is way to expensive for me as I am trying to save money as opposed to living in NYC. http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Brazil I am also open to other place but I must have a local array of working boys that are easy for me to meet, greet and fall in love with. So, there you have it. That is my story. Help and advice and chastisement is greatly appreciated!

i have heard this story before . I hope you make one of your temporary moves to Brazil so that you can line up some of the Brazilian Boys i see advertise all over Europe but have never seen in 4 trips to Brazil. No matter what Thailand will call you back just as it always has!!!

This will be only marginally helpful, but for what it's worth: My ex's sister-in-law is from Porto Alegre. I, being the idiot I am, never went there to visit. But from her husband's accounts, you do need to pick up at least some pidgin Portuguese to be able to shop and get around. And it is practically to the Antarctic circle -- travel from North America involves flying to one of the big cities there, then one if not two more hops to PA itself. Quality of life, cost of living and value given, though, seem really good, from what I could tell at second hand. And if bucolic countryside escapes hold any appeal, they are right at hand. Her siblings lived downtown while her parents ran a farm, dairy I think, some 40 miles inland in what her husband described as an unspoiled natural paradise.

AS, the difference is that you're always the one ringing the doorbell and I'm always the one flying through the screen door. ---- And yes, Lucky, this thread has been hijacked. Ransom bids will be entertained in the order recieved.

You got that right, lookin. Last time I thought Hito and I had something going, AdamSmith rang the doorbell and, whoosh, I was shoved out the back door faster than a Log Cabin Republican at the conservative national convention. In all fairness to Hito, I have to admit when I received my pants and shoes back by mail two days later, they were cleaned, pressed and polished.