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I have; the first time 25 years ago and the second in 2023, after Covid. Still beautiful in many areas but I didn't care for the traffic. I'm partial to other places in Indonesia for eg Lombok and the Gili Islands nearby, Bandung and Solo.

It just gets so boring after a while!

Possibly!

Is he still in Pattaya? Can't see him on Grindr. Looks lovely!

Yes ! Very good 😊 I never thought of that

I read somewhere there was a Rome Club in that soi many years ago but it had burned down or something.

Looking anticipatingly at your magic calendar now? 😉

Is that why you had to quote him twice - for emphasis?

Pattaya is where the queens go to meet their ladyboys-in-waiting. For hunks and muscular guys, @vinapu has presented you with a few options and I believe @emiel1981 has had some success meeting muscular guys online. Note that Boyz Boyz Boyz is a host bar where customers go to get drunk with the hosts. Any sexual activity off the premises is entirely subject to negotiations with the host. They can and do say no. Mama-sans and the venue don't usually get involved.

I feel jealous

Patpong 2 , opposite Unesco World Heritage Foodland

+1

me and Olddaddy remember parties Nero and Caligula were throwing in soi 2 when, what was then called Siam, was part of the Roman Empire. You youngsters don't know what you had missed !

you are in Pattaya now for all I know so why don't you compile such a list for benefit of community. Surely doing discovery you will have a fun

while there's occasional muscle guy here and there ( BoyzBoyzBoyz , Dreamboys and XBoys are your best options ) for boy hunting part of the trip stay in Bangkok

No

Today the municipal government of Rio Negro announced a new government investment in the expansion of the MDE airport. Interesting that this was timed a day following the national elections here. Construction will begin in 2028 after land expansion and clearing is complete. The new facility will include a second, larger landing strip for bigger planes and finally – – an expanded international processing area for foreign visitors. The MDE airport was designed for 14 million passengers per year, which it reached in 2024.

Are there only skinny boys in Pattaya? or how is it? I am thinking of visiting Thailand for the first time...but I am only int muscled guys....is Pattaya a good option then?

This is getting really tedious.

Agreed. But you have to be clear about to which body elections referred. The Urban Council of Hong Kong (the name given to the City Council) was open to elections by an extremely limited electorate decades before the 1980s. In 1970 there were effectively 200,00 ellgible voters. Rules were eased and thereafter eligibility reached almost half a million in 1981. But Hong Kong people had absolutely no interest in elections. How many actually voted? Only 34,381!. I defy @forrestreid and anyone else to state this indicates an unequivocal interest in the introduction of democracy by a majority of the people. Note that the democratic groups @forrestreid refers to were set up in 1986 - two years AFTER the signing of the Joint Declaration. The movement was led by a handful of public figures but not at all popular at the outset. Indirect elections to a very limited number of Legislative Council (effectively Hong Kong's parliament) seats were then established. Once again, voting numbers were miniscule partly bcause of the limitations placed by the government on who could vote. It was only in 1991 - before Patten - when direct elections with very few restrictions on electors were introduced for a larger number of Legislative Council seats. This was far from any kind of universal franchise but it was a start. The government still held a majority of seats. Britain had by this stage become very nervous about China's intentions. Following the Tiananmen Square incident in June 1989, roughly 200,000 protestors marched through Hong Kong streets. This greatly displeased China. A new airport was planned off Lantau Island to replace the outdated Kai Tak airport, but under the terms of the Basic Law, China had to agree to the cost. This along with its surrounding infrastructure was estimated at somewhere around US$20 billion. China was relucant for Hong Kong to commit so much, despite the city having the world's third largest foreign exchange reserves. The old guard in Beijing had another reason for suspicion about Hong Kong's handling of its reserves. The Joint Declaration made it clear that these would be kept in Hong Kong for use by the government after 1997. Several Beijing lawmakers feared that as Britain left its former colony, it would find a way of transferring these funds to London. These were serious concerns which resulted in a fear of Britain's intentions. It took intense diplomacy to ensure that China's concerns were set aside and the airport construction got the go-ahead. Within Hong Kong, though, many had become nervous after June 1989 in Tiananmen Square and many senior professionals moved their families to Vancouver, Sydney and other cities. Ironically, as it became clear that China would leave Hong Kong alone after 1989, several new recruitment companies were set up to lure these professionals back to Hong Kong in more senior positions, while leaving their families overseas. These were fondly called "astronauts" and there were many tens of thousands of them! So Patten arrived in Hong Kong after a period of major discontent on both sides had finally seemed to be settled. It is true that the newly formed Democratic party won a majority of seats in the 1991 election. Fear of China had come to the fore and this enabled Patten to go about his duplicitous plan. Produced in absolute secrecy even from many of his masters in London, once announced Beijing was furious. And rightly so, given the promises both sides had made about consultations with and agreement by both parties if there was to be any change to the terms of the Joint Declaration and the Basic Law. China then did exactly what it said it would do - tear up the "through train" agreement and put in place its own legislative body. That was entirely Patten's doing, and anyone who disagrees with that has clearly not read the terms of the two Agreements. As I continued to live in Hong Kong for another four years and then returned for business virtually monthly for another 15 years, like many I believed China would live up to its obligations under the Agreements. Little actually changed, other than many more Chinese tourists visited the city. All the freedoms Hong Kong had enjoyed, including legal ones, continued. Indeed, Hong Kong thrived. But the Pandora's Box opened by Patten was only temporarily closed. In 2014, students especially were unhappy that the territory's Chief Executive would not be open to universal suffrage but only to a small group of electors chosen by Beijing. That started the umbrella movement which closed a major central motorway for three months and led to the destruction in the Legislative Council Chamber. A major disobediance campaign had started, one which I felt was bound not only to anger Beijing but to lead to some form of reprisal. There is no doubt that the students, as students tend to do in many parts of the world when they believe they have a serious grievance, went way too far. Remember Kent State University when the US National Guard killed demonstrating students during the Vietnam War? Unfortunately there were no voices of reason to temper their protests and point out the possible consequences. These took time, but we now know that Beiing used these and other protests to clamp down on Hong Kong people ruling their own affairs and killing democracy. This was all a result of Patten and his utterly selfish and idiotic plans for the installation of democratic systems. He is a man who believes totally in his own self-importance - as was later proved when he had to be fired as Chairman of the BBC. Making him Hong Kong's last Governor was a monstrous mistake by Prime Minister John Major. As I quoted in my previous post, Sir Percy Craddock was correct, "Britain reserved its biggest mistake to the last Act of the Play." And Britain has just sat back and done nothing but mouth platitudes when it is one of the two parties to the Agreements. John Walden and his colleagues were totally correct in saying "the introduction of democratic politics into Hong Kong would be the quickest and surest way to ruin Hong Kong's economy and create social and political stability." He is being proved correct.

“Due to Donald Trump’s reckless war of choice, gas prices have surged to their highest levels in years,” Mr. Schumer wrote on social media. “His response? ‘If they rise, they rise.’ He couldn’t care less.”

Cunt Karoline, the White House and Trump are repeatedly saying, in response to reports that PUTIN is helping IRAN target and kill American troops, that "IT DOESNT MATTER".... Trumps buddy betrays him IN WAR, and Trumps attitude is "it doesnt matter".... Trump and Hegseths response is that "We are the USA, we are strong, we are tough, we are Lethal warriors, we are Killing them, and WE ARE WINNING" The only thing missing from their comments is a "fist bump"...... And what if China joins Irans defensive against the USA ? Trump and Hegseths "tough guy" ACT is getting old as the War escalates..... There needs to be more American and Worldwide outrage ! but most of Trumps Republican base seems to be cheering his Super Hero act........ Meanwhile, gas prices skyrocket, and the 50,000 Market is plunging..... while Trump and Hegseth continue to chest bump......

DISRESPECT ? Oh, that's just Trump being TRUMP ! Nothing to see here.

The segment of America that is STILL supporting Trump, and cheering him on, doesnt care about his LIES..... They LOVE his LIES because they confirm what they already believe. They have had a decade to "see the light" when it comes to Trump, his horrible leadership, his divisive , separatist agenda, and his Racism, yet they have FAILED to see the light and CHOOSE to remain in Trumps darkness because "they ARE those people"..... However the glimmer of hope is that they are the MINORITY, and a much larger group see the TRUTH and dont want Trump..... That sentiment might just be our savings Grace ? Most DEM politicians continue to be disappointing and milquetoast, but the few bright lights of a younger group are giving Americans HOPE..... The DEMS need to replace mouthpieces Schumer and Jeffries, they are nothing more than "talking establishment heads"....and really no better than the Lying GOP. The worse Trump gets, the better chance we have to defeat him.... Trump will take himself Down !

The city that's so good they set it to music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqGJr2Bgo5w&list=RDnqGJr2Bgo5w&start_radio=1