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@Barknaway you are a good and loyal and true pup. And I hope President Trump told you the truth. Unlike most Americans, who are weak and disloyal and do not deserve to know the truth. Obviously President Trump and Patriot Pete have been planning this war for a long time. "I always thought" is just a figure of speech, of course. But if President Trump did not tell you, please do not feel hurt. I did not know, either. You can't have a debate about these things in a country overrun by WEAK and DISLOYAL socialists and faggots and DEI color people. They come from shit holes and they bring their shit hole values with them. They go to Newscum's California where the state is overridden with CHINA PEOPLE losers who bring their virus and socialism. Worse than Muslim scum! We can not let all of America be like Newscum's California. Or like Europe or weak Asia most of those people are weak and timid and unwilling to stand up for TRUTH. We need to fight, @Barknaway. You are good and loyal and true. And now you know the truth. You live in a country full of weak pussies who are too stupid to obey. It makes obedient dogs like you special, @Barknaway. You are GOOD and LOYAL and TRUE. God bless you and your mother! I spoke to Patriot Pete today and he told me he is very proud of you. Bark! Bite! Kill!

Fine storytelling as always @jimmie50 but are you on Adderall or something? Paragraphs, please. 🙏🏻 By the way, I air dry my clothes on a line in the backyard. I hate dryers - they shrink my clothes - and most of my laundry is handwashed. We only use the dryer for big items like blankets and bedding during the rainy season and only sparingly.

No. I wasn't tbh. Not at all. Just interested in the country and its culture. Only posted on this forum as `i was surprised not to find and 'info' on Ghana. Plus, a couple of travellers I met in the hostel in Accra told me Togo, Benin, Liberia and Sierra Leone must be awesome in terms of meeting local men as well. Maybe another future post? X

No. Eventually I didn't.

CNN poll: 59% of Americans disapprove of Iran strikes and most think a long-term conflict is likely For once I wish you could speak and think, loyal pup. Because this is complicated. And urgent. America is NOT a shit hole country, dear pup. We are a land of proud patriots. And proud barking dogs like you. But 60 % of Americans are shit hole people who need to go back to the shit holes they came from. @Barknaway, you are a good and loyal and true pup. And now we need you more than ever! Bark! Bite! Kill! You stand for the REAL America, @Barknaway. Not this Muslim scum and Mexican bullshit and stupid raping dumb people without REAL American blood and heritage. This is what you get when you let the DEI people of color bullshit and Gay pussies take control. They have no values! It has now come to this, @Barknaway. We can not lose the REAL America YOU stand for. Bark! Bite! Kill! Try to target the socialists and Democrats first. Tear AOC and her fucking disloyal socialist mouth apart. But if you have to go after these Trump hating Independents and Republicans, that is okay. It is ALL on the line @Barknaway. This is it. We can NOT afford to have Trump and his GLORIOUS BEST WAR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! be unpopular. Fucking American scum! They all came from some shit hole, didn't they? We need to take action. Bark! Bite! Kill!

I agree. But I think the verdict is in. It is working out badly for Iran. The question is, how bad? This helps explain Trump's reaction when Putin invaded Ukraine. Trump said, "This is genius". At the time he was still in the dog house for his Jubilant Patriotic Cop Beating at the Capitol. So he got a lot of push back. I think we now know "genius" and "savvy" meant something like, "Gosh. I wish I could do that." And now Trump has. So this is a different version of Ukraine. I'm sure Putin and Trump both feel they have a long list of grievances, which we have all heard about. But now the idea of restraint is completely gone. The strong will just pick on the weak. That is the new world order. Putin started it. Trump said, "Me too!" I know my best case scenario. It goes something like this. Which is wishful thinking, but at least conceivably plausible. America is repulsed and rejects MAGA and America First in 2026 and 2028. I am likely to vote for Gavin Newsom. There are downsides of a California liberal. But I think in 2028 I want a proven leader who has high approval in California (like Reagan did back in the day) and has governed one of the biggest, open, and forward looking economies in the world. And is bending over backwards to show he wants to cooperate with the world, not fight it. In a wishful thinking scenario if we wait a few years it is conceivable Iranian reformers could again gain the upper hand, like they have before. Unlikely, but not out of the question. If the timing works right and there is a different US President with a very different agenda, like who isn't itching to start wars, that could potentially lead to better outcomes for two exhausted countries. One can hope.

I'm more concerned of how well that works for Iran itself. I remember well how hated that American friend Shah was and how jubilant Iranians were he was gone. Perhaps too jubilant as it created ground for ayatollahs to rise and entrench.

And I'd agree with @Moses on several of those. VietNam was infamously disastrous for both VietNam and the US. It was definitely a war of aggression. Add to that the unproven theory that JFK wanting to get out of VietNam got him assassinated by the US military industrial complex/Texas oil hawks/etc. Iraq was also infamously disastrous and a war of aggression that ended badly for America and the world. How quickly we forget. I opposed Gulf War I (Bush 41, not Bush 43) at the time. That said, in retrospect it is a model of how to do war, if we choose to do it. Kuwait was invaded. That is a fact. Just like Putin invaded Ukraine. The Powell Doctrine famously limited the military objectives to limited ones, which the US achieved and then left. The verdict is out on Trump's War Of The Week. Venezuela seemingly achieved its limited objectives without opening a bloodbath. In part because Trump did not try regime change. What he is doing now in Iran is a whole different matter. My guess is it only gets worse for him. Whatever rises from the ashes will probably be worse. With much more reason to hate and kill Jews and Americans. I remember a discussion with a Republican friend in the run up to Iraq. Like most Democrats, I strongly opposed Bush 43's Iraq War. A Republican friend of mine supported the idea, but argued Bush 43 would "fuck up" by putting boots on the ground. He was sure right about that. I asked him what he thought the US should do if it didn't want to put boots on the ground. He said, "That's easy. Blow the shit out of them." I asked, "What if what rises from the ashes is even worse?" He said, "That's easy. Blow the shit out of them again." A true American, I guess. Now we'll see how well that works for America.

and so was visiting crow I guess

nothing wrong with that, but role of policeman is to keep law and order , not to terrorize selected part of population while closing eye on other part doing all the same. It's not good when population is afraid more of their cops than their criminals.

I'd remove both Korean and Gulf war from the list as they were response to blatant and real aggressions.

Update from me. I went to S-Sense this evening to give it a go. I booked via Line. My masseur, Aek was lovely. Cuter in the flesh than in the pics, and friendly too. I took a shower first (in the room) and we began. Even though I was face down, I noticed that he took his shirt off. He did a good quality massage. Then, he turned me over, "aroused" me (which wasn't difficult) and asked me if I wanted somthing or other. I didn't understand what he said, despite asking him to repeat it, so I asked how much this extra thing cost and he thought for a bit and said 900, so I said, "OK, sure", at which point he promptly took the rest of his clothes off and climbed on top of me for some cuddling, licking and wanking. All very nice. He then showered, and returned to massage my legs for another 10-15 minutes until the 2 hours was up. I showered while he fetched some tea to the room. I wasn't sure if this 900 figure that I had aparantly agreed was in addition to the standard tip or not, so I offered him a 1000 baht note to gauge his reaction and he seemed very happy, so now I know. (Perhaps he had expected me to negotiate that 900 down a bit.) So that was my first experience of S-Sense. Is that typically how things go in a place like that?

Oh dear, can't imagine how disappointed you must've been. You were expecting a pearl necklace but he clutched his pearls instead.

Yes there is a grey fluid between them 😁

Anyone else notice -- for the past 35 years -- that it's Always the Republican presidents who drag us into Middle Eastern wars, and always under dubious "justification": Bush Sr. -- Kuwait (also invaded Panama) Bush Jr. -- Afghanistan and Iraq and now Trump -- Iran (also Venezuela, etc.) That's the same guy who campaigned on "no new wars" and promised to end Russia's war on Ukraine when he became "Dictator on Day One." Is anyone noticing a pattern yet?

To be fair, he said 'disappointing massages..'

We both had disappointing massage and afters.

Earlier today I came across an old Huffington Post article from 2014 updated to 2017. Given the changing fortunes of Hong Kong there were those who forecast a bright future - like the last pre-July 1 1997 Governor Christopher Patten - and those whose crystal balls predicted a much murkier future. I have made no attempt to to disguise my dislike of Patten, both as a Hong Kong Governor (from 1992)and subsequently as the Chairman of the BBC Board of Governors - a post from which he was fired. I did meet him just once in a very casual setting. He knew nothing about me and my work and he was clearly much more occupied looking around for someone more interesting to chat with. Fair enough. I could never blame someone for that. No, as I have written before, I resented him for his childishly secret - to all but a BBC TV team which he paid to come to Hong Kong several times to witness his shenanigans - attempts to find faults in the two documents which Britain and China had jointly signed laying out Hong Kong's future. They made perfetly clear that not a word could be altered without both parties having agreed in writing. Patten set out to embarrass China into putting Hong Kong on to a much more democratic path. One of those who felt this decade-long faint-hearted attempt at democracy was belated stupidity was a man named John Walden who had been a senior official in the government for decades. As the territory's Director for Home Affairs, he said this - "If I personally find it difficult to believe in the sincerity of this sudden and unexpected official enthusiasm for democratic politics it is because throughout the 30 years I was an official myself, from 1951 to 1981, 'democracy' was a dirty word. Officials were convinced that the introduction of democratic politics into Hong Kong would be the quickest and surest way to ruin Hong Kong's economy and create social and political instability." In 1975, hardly anyone in Hong Kong cared about democracy. There was not even a democratic party - finally formed in 1995. It was Patten who, often secretly, encouraged the rise of democracy, and to hell with what China thought. Yet Hong Kong was dependent on China continuing Hong Kong's laissez-faire attitude to politics and its way of life after 1997. Hong Kong people, most of whom had emigrated from desperately poor circumstances in China, were more interested in a roof over their heads, money in the bank and education for their children. So when Patten unilaterally announced major changes to the Joint Agreements, the Chinese government was as livid as the UK government would have been had the boot been on the other foot. China then cancelled what had been termed the "through train" in terms of how the territory was going to be run and instead installed its own administration. But the democratic forces deliberately unleashed by Patten ewere a Pandora's Box. They took root 15 years later in the student body. And as the world knows, even after demonstration and more demonstrations China did nothing. But eventually it could tolerate it no more, as it became obvious that Hong Kong political views were being aired in the mainland. Thus the clampdown of three years ago and the end of democracy in Hong Kong. Hong Kong which I shall visit again tomorrow is now devoid of the freedoms it once enjoyed and all because one pig-headed man with zero experience of China who should never have been appointed Governor thought he could outwit the old guard in Beijing. He totally failed and thus condemned Hong Kong to a less bright future. In my view John Walden and his government colleagues with similar views was spot on.

As an option later in the evening, even if satisfied earlier, a good time is usually had by going to the bars without the intention of off-ing anyone. Just have a drink with a guy or two, watch the show and see a bunch of dicks 😅

Getting back to the title of the thread, air travel around the Gulf region looks like it will be in chaos for several more days with several major airports still closed. There will then be a period of several days while airllines get planes and flight staff back to where they should be. I feel sorry for those who have booked flights to and from Asia via the Gulf at this time.

Unfortunately, the situation has not changed. The traffic back to the hotel is quite bad during day time as it would often have a jam. Hotel name is Grand Mercure Bangkok Atrium. There is shuttle bus to Petchaburi station but it is not frequent so I might need to walk to the MRT if I miss it. Like what you mentioned, if I wanted to get on BTS, I would still need to change trains at the interchange at Asok. I ended up grabbing quite a lot, and the next time I go to Bangkok (hopefully soon), I would prefer to stay near a BTS. Personally, I would not stay in Petchaburi area again =(.

S’Sense Before I continue, I will just preface that S’Sense was the best experience I had for the whole trip and it was after the bad experience I had with C. The booking process is the same, but this time, I booked for 2 hours compared to the earlier ones I booked (1.5 hrs only) as when I searched the forums, the sentiments have been positive so I gave this place 2 hours. 2 hours was for 1450 and the admin shared an extra infographic sharing, normal massage 100-200 tip, hand job 500 tip, body to body massage 900 tip. I picked my guy (D), and told admin I wanted the body to body massage one. I had arrived slightly earlier for this by 10 mins and in the shop, there were multiple boys sitting in. I went in and showed the receptionist my booking and took a seat. D was actually sitting in the shop too haha, he brought me 5 different oils to choose and was smiling when he greeted me. He looked great, muscular, like a bodybuilder lol. After choosing the oil, he escorted me to a separate compound away from the shop for the massage. We chatted a bit while we were walking and I found out that 90% of S’Sense customers were tourists, instead of locals. At the separate compound, he changed my slippers and led me to the room for me to shower. After showering, he came in and confirmed if I wanted the body to body which I replied yes. He also asked about what massage pressure I prefer, which I said soft. He stripped to his undies in front of me while I looked and it was hot, big arms, pecs and abs lol. I lied down and he started doing the massage. During the massage, which started out clean, he would brush his face and breath at my butt/back. At times, he would also kiss my back and that built the tension well. When it moved to the body to body portion, it was amazing lol. I could sense that he stripped his undies and went to wash himself before placing his body against my back. We did literally everything you can think of except him fucking me, like everything. D grinded his huge thick cock at my ass while playing with my nipples from behind. There was a mirror at the side so I could see him doing that. D held my hands while he placed his cock between my thighs to dry hump me. He even ate my ass (I waxed beforehand). He was the only one who did that among all the experiences I had. We did other things, kissing, sucking, licking my balls, fucking me between the thighs etc...I will not go into further details lol. At a certain point of jerking me off, I had to stop him. He asked me why and I told him I didn’t want to cum so soon (as from my previous few experiences, they would end and ask me to shower after). He reassured me that massage will continue and I came while sitting on top of him, touching his chest and grinding my ass on his cock. What sets this experience apart from the others was that after cumming, the massage still continued. I was looking at a hot guy’s silhouette massaging me while we were chatting. I told him about how I chose him and my bad experience at Klover (apparently he knows about Klover’s existence, however I kept the masseur name anonymous as I wasn't there to badmouth anybody). He was like "awww poor thing", and he kissed my hand when I told him he made it better. Then I told him i wanted on the lips, he also went down to give it to me lol. D also gave me a head massage and personally I am a fan of head massages so that is a plus point. HOWEVER, what happened next surprised me. He kissed my forehead during the head massage. This was something I didn’t experience before in my life lol. My eyes were actually closed during the head massage but I was surprised and opened to see him smiling at me. Our position was me lying on the bed and he was at the top of the bed facing me upside down. Then he went down and did the Spider-Man kiss (go google it, it was exactly like that). After he did it once, he asked if I wanted more and I said please. Then he continued and we did it a few times lol. I was smiling and giggling like a high school kid plus I got hard again even though I had just cum. D noticed it, rubbed me and laughed. He told me to rest while he showered and I was lying on the bed watching him shower which looks great btw. After my shower, he was nice enough to dry me off too. I also tipped him above the minimum 900 requested. We traded LINE contact but he told me to keep quiet about it as staff were not supposed to do so with customers. Outside the room, he brought me some tea and cookies. He asked me to leave him a Google review, which I gladly agreed and did it in front of him. Definitely 5 star or even 6 star service haha. We hugged and kissed goodbye before he sent me off. I told him I would definitely choose him again if I return to Bangkok. (and i definitely will if I have the opportunity). When he brought me out of the building, he asked me to pinky promise that I would see him again next time haha. 2 random people sitting outside were looking at us pinky swearing at the door haha.

As I mentioned last year, I got lucky at Green Massage, chose good looking guy, asked for body massage. They had rooms upstairs, aand was fucking him within 15 mins! I can't remember about the massage!

😒 Always good to have these first hand reports. Crowd-sourced info with multiple data points always useful. You said "two of us". Why was the other party disappointed?