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For some years I went to bars to Sundays with a long time friend. He seemed to love teasig the boys, most of whom hadn't a clue what he was saying and some were certainly uncomfortable. I tied so many times to get him to stop, but it must have been ingrained in his DNA.

If I may change direction just a tad and speak about our Thai friends.... One thing they don't seem to respond to is teasing, even when it is gentle and affectionate. Teasing is something that I have been used to all my life, perhaps because I was the youngest (and best looking) of three. OK, I made that last bit up. Here in Thailand I've seen abject failures in attempted teasing by falang visitors and expats, well-meant but utterly bemusing to Thais. At least those on the scene. Is it cultural? linguistic? I don't know. When I've gently teased younger folk at home, those I know well of course, they've usually responded with a smile. Some of the smarter would tease back. But tease a Thai? I'd never do this; Thais just don't seem to "get it" and appreciate the affection behind it.

I write a lot about my time in Palestine-too much some would say- and so I won't do so here but I must say that, while I've enjoyed my holiday in Chiang Mai and Jomtien and am sad to be going home tomorrow, Trump and Netanyahu have done their utmost to ensure that my mood has been much more gloomy than usual. Thanks guys. And I dare not speak of the far worse suffering of others. Insh'allah it'll be over by June when I return. Or will it be Cuba and Lebanon (again) then? Or Mexico? or Syria? For heaven's sake, please stop.

I wasn't offended; I was just worried Aunty Vin might be having a seizure. 😅

But of few words in person, can barely keep your attention for a couple of minutes before you're running towards the next victim conquest 😝

It's become an acceptable way of letting people know that the post is going off topic, we're all guilty of it even Auntie Vin, don't be offended.... and feel free to honk at someone when appropriate 😉 I prefer we self moderate (not medicate) rather than have "moderators" that delete and "patrol" the boards and warnings.... usually if it's toooo insane @TotallyOz steps in behind the scenes to take care of it.

Leave me out of this

I don't use those, yet.

It's precisely because life is too short and precious that we can't be cavalier about the issues. And we should ask ourselves why and how resistance fighters like Hamas and Hezbollah came about and why they have acted as they have? Did they even exist prior to 1948? The Christians, Jews and Muslims lived in relative peace before then. And you may want to check again who's actually been funding Hamas previously in order to undermine the Palestinian Authority and prevent the creation of a viable Palestinian state. Prior to this illegal war against them, for which the US are still mumbling off the reasons and have no exit plan, Iran hadn't attacked anyone. Can anyone say the same about the US, Israel and the UK? Civilian deaths? Oh perleez. 🙄 Anyone with any connection to centuries of western settler-colonial aggression - a tradition the genocidal Israeli regime is keeping well and alive in Palestine - should think twice before bringing up the issue of civilian deaths allegedly perpetrated by others.

Personally, Ive had a few guys id consider having long term arrangement, and one guy, I did get into the conversation but he did mentioned he does not prefer to be tied. Not directly to me nor to my request, but i cant recall exactly how, but he told someone (customer) asked him to be "boyfriend" but he sort of dismissing the idea because he doesnt want commitment. I did asked about if he had one before, and he told me yes, long time ago (before he met me), with a local guy, and he did receive monthly stipend, for about a year. There is another guy who told me he used to get a sponsor before too, when i asked about him missing from the scene. And other times when this came out, is when one of the their Bar friend went missing, I would ask about them, and sometimes, their answer is he got a sponsor. These are all a good conversation starters to bring up the topic and not directly discuss the arrangement if and when you are ready to talk with Cam about the topic. This way you can sense whether he likes the idea or not, without directly offering him hope. Or you can also wait it up until the guy themselves brings it up.

The longer Trump fools the market, the harsher the crash will be.

Hi Louis! Welcome to the forum. I can understand your anxiety and don't find your "goal too ambitious". The fact that you're putting yourself out there may encourage others to do the same. I haven't used any but I've heard from friends that there are professional escort agencies out there with their own websites. The quality of services, as is in the nature of this business, varies, and prices tend to be higher than hiring a sex worker off the hook-up sites such as Grind'r. There is no scoring system or official reviews as far as I know as this is not how people primarily hire sex workers in Thailand's highly established commercial sex industry. As for safety, take the same precautions as you would any random meeting from the web: video call to verify their identity and meet in a public place to suss them out. Don't worry; nobody's going to notice. This sorta thing is very common in any big city in Thailand. I can totally understand it if you do not want to partake in the overt commercial sex scenes in Patpong and Pattaya; they're not for everybody. While there are plenty of crusty prostitutes, not everybody is a seasoned punter or wishes to be one! 😅 We all come from different backgrounds with different sensibilities and levels of comfort when it comes to trying out new things. That said, may I suggest you start off by going people watching in Silom Soi 4 and getting your feet wet a little, so to speak. Go earlier in the evening to, say, The Balcony, before it gets too busy and the waiters won't have time to chat with you. Soak in the atmosphere and if you find it all too overwhelming, leave. No biggy. And when you feel a bit more comfortable, take in a show at one of the busier show bars in Bangkok such as Freshboys where you can get lost in the crowd. Just don't tell anyone you're a newbie and ward off bothersome mama-sans by telling them you're there to watch the show. You may stick to your original plan of hiring an escort from an agency or you could dip your toes a little in the glitzier manifestations of the commercial sex industry. There is no right or wrong. Will you feel you've made a mistake or an awkward mis-step at some point? Sure, who hasn't? Just learn from them...or shrug them off...before trying again. Good luck and have fun!

I'm sure we all like them!

I've always had good service from Grindr, though I may have been lucky! As @vinapu says, however, there is a lot to be said for inspecting the goods in person. If in a go go bar, 100 Baht, what @vinapucalls a red note, will often enable a thorough examination on site!

Life is too short to deal with all these important issues in detail. However, it should be pointed out that in my view, there are faults on all sides. It's worth remembering that one of Iran's stated aims is to destroy Israel, and wipe it off the map. They also fund, and support, Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, etc, who have been guilty of many civilian deaths. No one could dispute that Israel's activities in Lebanon, Iran, Gaza, and the West Bank, are despicable, but there are two sides to the story.

Like @vinapusaid, you’re in the candy store, why not pick and choose what you like in front of you? Why insist on order something you cannot see, touch and feel? If you insist on website or platform, I recommend Rentmen, I think they have more legit provider, pick a provider with many positive reviews and you shouldn’t have any issues. RM is also more expensive in general than other platforms. Good luck and Happy hunting!

Fair enough!

Bakers' dozen?

Depends!

I know. I started it. 🙄

What is "BEEP BEEP BEEP"? Secondly, are you a forum moderator? I wasn't the one who started posting on the illegal war against Iran in this thread and yet you didn't tell them to start a new thread? If the forum moderators - whoever they are - would like to move all posts that which do not strictly relate to the original post in this thread to another thread, I would have no objections.

"Worried about having garlic breath? I guess you've never been kissed by a Thai guy" It was a vampire reference!

Hi, welcome to the forum as for first timer your goal is too ambitious. Why comb platforms like Grindr, Hesay, Romeo etc in country where whole business is so well developed and organized ? With internet hookup there's always possibility that who you saw on screen is not who knocks to your door - not necessarily bad thing but that's beside the point. go to bar or massage venue where you have at least a chance to see and talk with who you will be engaging. as for safety , you are in good place as for safe -sex , your companion is likely interested in it as much as you are if not more

isn't it something? gay guy who is straight ? do you have his Line?

really ? That ' honey " thing makes me having some doubts