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I understand that you think Western media also uses propaganda. I agree that every country presents information in its own way and that you always need to look at multiple sources. But the situation in Russia cannot be compared to the West. The scale, the methods, and the consequences are completely differen In Russia, people are arrested for criticism, journalists disappear, political opponents fall from balconies, businessmen die under strange circumstances, and even using the word “war” can lead to prison. That is not an “urban legend.” It is documented by Russian courts, Russian laws, and human rights organisations. No Western country arrests people for using the wrong word, or shuts down every independent newspaper. So yes, the West has bias, but it does not have a system where public criticism automatically leads to prison. That difference matters. About Ukraine: I know the NABU case you mentioned, and it shows that Ukraine still struggles with corruption and political pressure. But it also shows the opposite of your conclusion. Things came out because: journalists could report it, EU institutions stepped in, the government had to reverse its actions under international pressure Those mechanisms only work in countries where transparency still exists. In Russia, nothing like this would even appear in the news, and there would be no external institution able to intervene. So, corruption in Ukraine does not mean Ukraine and Russia are “the same.” It means Ukraine is still chaotic and imperfect, but it is not a closed authoritarian system where everything is suppressed. That difference is important when we talk about propaganda or compare political systems.

At last, somebody agrees 🤩 I have been saying the same for years, From a business perspective, bars should choose between being a showbar or an offing bar. The conflict between the two business models is such that any bar that tries to do both will have to walk a very narrow line with a high risk of failure. A showbar needs volume because putting up shows is costly. The nature of the shows also tends to feature drag queens who bring no erotic value to gay men (with only rare exceptions). They attract straight audiences, and the bars get addicted to the straight audiences because they need volume (it gets into a vicious cycle). It doesn't take long to drive away gay customers who are the backbone of any offing business model. Show bars also need floor area because they need to accommodate a surge crowd at show time (how else to monetise the hoped-for volume?), backstage space, maybe high ceilings too. Rent costs become significant as a result, yet outside of showtime, you're paying rent for under-utilised space. Banana bar is one such bar teetering on the edge. It succeeds as a showbar but I wonder how many offs the boys there get... and if they don't get enough offs, why work there any more? An offing bar doesn't need a show. It just needs a small, intimate space (e.g. the size of Thantawan bar) with a small stage in a corner. It needs a good slate of boys carefully selected to suit the tastes of whatever customer/market segment the bar is aiming for, from twink to twunk to chunk to hunk. I would recommend that boys go up to the stage one at a time for a 5-minute sensual striptease act (without going "all the way") -- so that customers can see what the physique is like in order to decide on an off. Without a show, there is no need to cater for any surge crowd, so a small bar will do, keeping rent low. There is no need to hire waiters or staff associated with show production. The business focus of such a bar is to get the boys off'd. The above (a pure offing bar) is actually a proven model. Toy Boys operates something similar except that they still have boys standing on stage bored to death. And clearly Toy Boys has staying power. The latest post on ShamelesssMack describes a pure offing bar in Tokyo, King of College. It is a successfull, long-running business. It doesn't even have a strip show. Many of the Sunnee bars were like Toy Boys too, with a primary focus on boys on offer. When they had dancing, my best memories were the bars where the boys moved around the room, dancing right at your table (or on it) thereby creating a personalised experience for the customer. Sunnee bars' demise was not because the model didn't work, it was because their selection of boys skewed strongly to the tasts of a particular generation of western customers and didn't evolve with demographic changes. When that generation of western retirees began dying off, the bars failed to tap into the huge growth in Asian customers in Thailand's tourism profile (which would have necessitated a revamp of the type of boys that bars had). Granted, it's a lot more complicated than that in that Asian gay males have been staying mainly in Bangkok and are much less interested in going to Pattaya. So it is a chicken-and-egg question too. But even this tells us something else - the utter lack of any marketing. Asian gay males will go to Pattaya if businesses would only advertise. But of course, they also need to understand carefully what type of boys Asian customers like and ensure the bar has the desired type. Look at Bangkok's massage parlours, from low end to high end. They're in rude health! They advertise furiously. If only the bars would learn from what they're doing. I have also previously said that an offing bar can add to its sales revenue (and the boys' earnings) by offering private dances in a cubicle: Ten minutes of stripping all the way, gyrating and inviting groping for a reasonable fee, say 500 - 600 baht. This is akin to the sort of personalised fun experience that the best Sunnee bars offered. Through private dancers, boys can earn extra income in addition to being off'd. Customers can "buy" 2 or 3 private dancers to check out 2 or 3 boys before deciding which one to off. Right now, the boys' earning model is more or less an "all or nothing" game. They're either off'd and earn big money, or they earn next to nothing during the evening. Forum members here on gayguides may say that the boys also earn drink tips or "you look handsome" tips, but boys can't earn enough from such tips alone. Furthermore, always bear in mind that fact the customer profile is mainly Asian. Look carefully and the truth is that most Asian customers don't tip as liberally. An Asian customer sees far less value in calling a boy down for a drink because it is unlikely that the boy can speak Chinese, Korean or Japanese. It's a rule of thumb: customers need to see value before they spend, and a private dance is one way of offering value. It's a mystery to me why it is so rare for bars to think about the value proposition for the customer. They do more of the same unthinkingly, without asking themselves how to ensure that customers see value in patronising my bar. More tricky perhaps, they don't know how to analyse value conflicts. What is value to one type of customer (the straight couple that want either a drag show or a gawk show) is disvalue to the gay customer who is prepared to off a boy (but is put off by the heterosexual vibe and the very public exposure he has to endure in a bar with gawking customers).

I can tick Boystown off my list. I went inside Toyboy and X-Boys. The first had around twelve to fifteen boys at most, and the latter had a show that I had not seen in Pattaya for a long time. Make of that what you will. The drinks in Toyboy were 280, and 380 in X-Boys. This included four ice cubes that did a good job filling the glass. For twinks, I think JC is the better option, and I will not return to Boystown in the coming months. I might give it another try when the disco next to Toyboy reopens.

Never knew you were one of Jimmy Sharman's boxers.

While technically true, also no known actor has won a Nobel prize. Having said that, Peter Handke won the prize for Literature in 2019 and has written a number of screenplays, plays, directed and produced a number of films.

I can confirm that. In fact, I mentioned the sign in my post of August 2022, The screaming bar.

I think at next few months you'll see chain of "accidents" and "suicides" of Ukrainian ministers for to cut links from corruption scandals to Zelenskiy personally. (By the way: read my comment on prev. page)

Unfortunately, there is no Nobel prize for actors!

Or pushed out of window, to lower position!

it is installed by Western propaganda "urban legend" for to make Ukraine to look "democratic"... by fact Ukraine and Russia are the same... Have you seen NABU (anticorruption burau) in the news? Zelenskiy made 2 efforts already for to dissolve it. Last time - in August'25: all detectives and prosecutors from NABU were arrested in August by Ukrainian secret service (I think at that time Zelenskiy got information who's voices are on NABU's tapes). Only fast intervention of EU stopped it - EU just immediately switched off all money supply lines. And after 5 days NABU again has been restored. So, thisу current scandals are going not because UA is democratic country, but because EU forced current situation against Zelenskiy's will.

this I can easily imagine

all I remember hearing from Soi Twilight is ' Look at THAT guy "

that's the difference between Ukraine and Russia. News from Ukraine are seeping in, in Russia culprit would quietly disappear in handy car or plane crash or got elevated to higher position and it would be just another ' vsio normal'no " day

clear and concise , sorry I run out of 'likes' at the moment

this time I agree with you . Perhpas won't get into problem but certainly one will be corrected

Actually not. I put my head inside Barcode, but too many drag artists. I concentrated on old acquaintances who share an interest in local government expenditure!

I sometimes entertain my guide from Siam Roads to breakfast, as I don't think he gets enough to eat, but he comes from the street, not my room!

wonder if you visited any bars there as it's reported there are 4 now, Barcode , Randesvous , B Ball and GOD

Yes, indeed, usually with a large contingent of Japanese golfers!

he deserved Noble Prize , not that Orange Overlord guy

because, by your own adnmission, you don't patronize bars. I'm pretty sure I saw sign to this effect in one of Boyztown bars and BBB is prime suspect.

doesn't want to socialize with low grade porn star ?

You can place your orders now.

I will tell you what a traitor is. A traitor is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves. A patriot is an American that serves the United States of America and Americans like the women standing behind me (Epstein survivors) now," Majorie Taylor Greene

It was just that one time, but as I said, I think things happen. On Sniffies, Therma Yu is listed as a cruising spot and it says guys go to the restroom. I went to an onsen in Chichibu and saw guys with boners who definitely seemed to be cruising. Seeing all of those hot naked men definitely made me horny.