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Sounds like you want S or SS type massage place though H places guys wont refuse a no penetration services. Kissing on the other hand, not always easy to tell who will do it, so if it is really important for you, mention it upfront to the mamasan at H place, and perhaps you will get one that is willing. S or SS place, the person in charge wont entertain question about extra services, so its up to the masseur, so itll be harder to negotiate before choosing

Day 1 Writing this from the Etihad lounge at Abu Dhabi. Just a few hours more and I’m home. After landing at BKK, exchanging money and taking a taxi, I arrived at the So/ hotel. The reason I chose this hotel was cause I got hotels.com credit. The terms of the credit was that I got two nights credit with a limit of 500 usd a night. And any unused credit gets lost. I wanted the largest room in Silom that 500 usd can buy. I knew that my first 2 nights were with V so better use it when he's with me so we enjoy the space. I would have booked Le Meridien but cancellation terms were not warzone friendly. V and I met at the hotel lounge. Even at the age of 40, he still is in perfect shape. A perfect V muscle torso. What had clearly changed was his financial situation. When I met V he was kinda broke. He arrived at the So/ lounge with a new Tumi suitcase and branded expensive clothes. He acknowledged that his financial situation changed dramatically as his partner is very wealthy. Room was not ready at the time so we decided to leave the luggage and go to the hotel pool. We spotted a hot couple working out at the gym near the pool and both acknowledged their hotness. V and I started getting close and physical at the pool and enjoyed the time together until our room was ready. Only at 4PM our room was ready which was poor performance by So/. It was a 100 sqm suite. The hotel now is not what it used to be. It is more tired and a bit old. Not the chic it had in the past but still a great hotel and I was happy not to pay anything for that very big fancy room. In the room V and I enjoyed the hot tub and the bed till evening. Sexual chemistry between us is great because V lets me do whatever I want with him. Then we slept a little. When we woke up V wanted to eat Thai at Silom Complex. Dinner was great. As I always do, I paid for it but this time he told me he also can and wants to pay so I let it be sometimes. Back in the room I got a text from the hot couple we saw at gym near the pool. They suggested we go out, the four of us, which we happily agreed to. We went to DJ station and already there things started to get warm. Afterwards GOD, there things got really hot including a toilet scene of which the 4 of us play until people outside get upset that we occupy the toilet for too long. GOD was packed and great that night. Since I have some experience on clubbing with V I know that when he does drugs, he wants to party all night. That night he told me he wants to do E which I told him was fine by me but that he should know that I am leaving the club not a second after 3AM cause I don’t wanna go to sleep too late. I told him he is more than welcomed to stay and come back to the room whenever he wants. At 3 AM I told him I was going and he decided to come with me which took me by surprise. The couple wanted us to stay and have a foursome later but I told them I was tired. That was only partially true because I was planning on having fun with V in the room. The reason I didn’t want a foursome is that I had a clear preference to one guy of the couple over the other and was hoping to get him alone later. And in addition that would have put me the only top on 3 bottoms which may sound hot. But, I usually prefer a more even ratio so that I can share the cardio with someone. V and I left the club at 3 AM. V was wild with me, allowing me to do whatever I want. He wore the lingerie I bought for him and let me film some of our sexual activities. At about 5AM I went to sleep tired, happy and calm. This concludes my first day. No transactional fun this day, but I knew that the day after I have 2 massages so I was fine with that.

Amen to that!

Indeed. Next time

Don't worry. The last time snow was recorded in downtown LA was in 1962.

If you strike up a conversation outside in Soi 6 with a guy who particularly appeals to you, ensure that you tell him that you want him to be your masseur. I was approached once by a guy I found to be very desirable and he took me inside, where he handed me over to a masseur who kindled no magic in me at all. But I didn't want to embarrass that poor guy, so I just decided to grin and bear it and put up with rather a disappointing experience.

I was disappointed that we missed each other too. Maybe on your 13th trip.

Thanks. Was there a bar called Vassa there previously?

Yeah. Well they probably come from some shit hole like Canada. 😁

Yes. It is in the short alley that connects Soi 13/5 to 13/4. Its front door is sort of opposite BoyzBoyzBoyz's front door. Classic Boys is classic fem twinks territory.

Da Nang, Vietnam, 5 nights and some boy business I had afternoon flight there from Singapore and having window seat I could see city from above on approach. It pretty unique, while most cites are happy to have mountains in the background, or beach or great river, Da Nang has all three. And as a bonus, it’s airport is right I the city. I doubt it’s more than 1 hr walk from terminal to the beach, if that much. That did not prevent taxi driver from offering me “promotional” fare to my hotel of 20 $. Short’ no, I will walk there” resulted in reduction to 10$. I just kept walking and easily found guy or rather guy found me offering ride for 7 $,. Still too much but I accepted it and at hotel got 25000 dong change from my 200 000 dong bill. 1$ = 26000 at time of my stay so we are dealing with lots of zeros and it needs a bit of mental adjusting as at first sight everything seems to be soooo expensive until one realizes that 30000 for sizable portion of ice cream is only 1.15 $. In short, Vietnam is very budget friendly with bonus on one feeling like Bezos or Musk dealing with those millions. My hotel was close to a beach, perhaps 200 m walk the most but during my stay sea was very choppy and I did not see many people wading into water. Visited night market by the Dragon Bridge to eat something and exchange money , 100USD produced 2 601 000 dong, now we are talking thought I. Never inclined to waste time I took circular way back to hotel and in process located Hero spa offering man to man massage, place recommended by BKKMFJ who spent few moths in the city. Steps from there was restaurant where I had a meal and while checking their trip offers it turned out that owner has a car and can be hired for trips to Ba Na hills , Hoi An and Champa ruins in My Son, to name few places I was intended to visit. We exchanged WhatApp as I was not sure about my itinerary, primarily because I want to go to Hue but by train only.. Next morning horror – I couldn’t find my glasses. After several minutes finally found them – inside pillow. How they landed there it’s mystery , all I know that I was checking forum or Grindr on my phone while in the bed already and took glasses off. Trip to railway station crossed Hue idea out – no seats on the train in next 3 days. On my way back visited Champa Sculpture Museum , very interesting but not overwhelming. In late afternoon walk to Hero for that man to man massage. Owner recommended Royal Treatment , 1.5 hr course for 1 500 000, not exactly cheap (60$). I had high expectancies for that price, partially realized i.e massage itself was super good. When comes to afters, not much , promised body to body did not materialize. Although guy was naked throughout the session and easily accessible what was missing was spark and chemistry between us. Fault could be mine – I did not get a choice of boy and one assigned was not my type . Oh well, chalked off to experience and well energized- remember massage was great I walked to find another spa recommended by bkkmfj, Nam spa. Localized it with help of Google Maps but did not go in. Through open door I could see hunky guy in the lobby so there’ some hope thought I . To be continued…..

hi, i googled lgbt friendly hotels in seoul that offers male segregated baths and saunas, quite a few were listed. one that caught my eye was Mondrian seoul in itaewan area, near "homo hill" . Anyone tried this hotel ? Wonder if the baths there cruisy ? Any outside bath house worth a check out ? Thks

my spies are telling me that on Sunday night bar door were shut down at 11.10 p.m. If that confirmed today , it looks that it was very short lived undertaking.

Hope you returned home safely, Too bad we missed each other by few days, It would be nice to catch up after all those years ................... I know people who take as much pleasure in trip planning than in trip itself so I'm not surprised ............ as for abandoning your old ways, nice try but I doubt it worked . There's something in Bangkok air which makes us less composed than we wish, to say it mildly.

I think that trying to be subtle and careful about how you like a guy, but you don’t want to go over the top with love and entanglement is going to be a very difficult needle to thread with someone who isn’t really fluent with English. You were hedging your statements and he said “I love you.” I think being clear in your own mind about what you want makes it easier to respond to the situation. “I really like you and enjoy the time that we spend together, especially the sex. But I am not looking for a relationship (or a long distance relationship) at this time.”

don't read too much into it. He may be sincere but also he may be just saying it for lack of better words. "like", 'love" , for non-native speaker may actually mean the same.

also Dreamboys (opposite XBoys ) and yes , indeed Classic Boys

yes, right beside Panorama bar, opposite BBB.

Next installment: Showed up at Paradise at the scheduled time. I think everyone there knows me by now. lol. None of the other guys even try to get my attention or persuade me to give them a try. They all know who I am there to see. He was waiting for me inside. This time I was actually there to get a massage. I was still feeling a little travel weary after the long flight and thought it would relieve some of the stress and stiffness. Wanting to spend as much time with ‘my guy’ as possible, I requested 120 minutes in the VIP room. Hopefully that would be a real treat for both of us. He is really quite good at massage and helped my aching body a lot. The extras are becoming much more intense and with feelings…if that makes any sense. He isn’t just going through the motions and it is certainly not mechanical by any stretch of the imagination. Far more intimate and connected. Needing to be very careful with my emotions with this one. I am easily becoming smitten. As we were getting dressed and preparing to go for dinner, I casually said to him that ‘I enjoy spending the time together and really like you’. I tried to choose my words very carefully. To that his reply was ‘I love you’. Wasn’t expecting that, so needed to spend some time processing everything once back in the condo. Did not respond in kind but gave him a kiss when he said it. Thoughts or comments? We went to dinner at a Lebanese restaurant. I have never had Lebanese food before, so I don’t know how authentic it really is, but the place was very busy and for me the food was quite good. It is located on Silom in Silom 64 building directly behind the McDonald’s. Name is Beirut Restaurant. They have a very small sign that does not light up directly below the golden arches. I would certainly go again. We had Chicken Shawarma, Lamb and Beef kabobs, Crunchy Fried Shrimp, served with lemon rice, naan, sliced tomato & cucumber and three different dipping sauces. After dinner, I headed back to the condo. It was still early and he needed to return to work. The original plan was for him to join me at the condo after the shop closed at midnight. However, as often happens in Thailand, plans changed. It seems Paradise is actually owned by a Chinese gentleman. Not sure if he is from Mainland China or from Taiwan. Towards the end of the working day, the owner had lots of food and drink delivered to the shop for the employees to celebrate Chinese New Year. Needless to say, my guy wanted to stay and party. That was fine with me. I knew he would be drinking way too much beer and in no condition to do anything other than pass out if he did join me, so we just agreed to chat the next day. To be honest, it is probably a good thing. I need to be careful about spending too much time with him. We have already talked about possibly taking a short 2 or 3 day trip outside the city next week. I also have other shops I want to explore this trip, as well as some of the clubs in the evening. Treated myself to a little pampering yesterday by getting a manicure and pedicure. Never had a pedicure before, but decided to give it a try. Was a very relaxing experience. There is a shop near the condo I have walked past hundreds of times but never stopped. There was only one other customer inside today when I was walking by, so on a whim just decided to treat myself. I thought it was very reasonable at 1000 Baht for both. That is around 30 USD. In the states, I would pay 45 USD for just a manicure. No idea how much the cost of adding a pedicure would be, but my guess would be at least an additional 30 USD. Trying to pace myself this trip since I have seven weeks. Think I will venture out today and try a different shop. Want to avoid Soi 6 shops as I don’t want anyone at Paradise to see me and report to a certain someone. lol. Thinking about Senso, Prince, or possibly Arena. Curious about Titan, but not willing to pay that high price if simply an S shop. Any recent updates on this place? To be continued...

i should be more specific and say ' discover freedom of not reading posts, threads and reports you find not interesting "

Being fresh from Bangkok debaucheries I was not really interested in bars there, next time I will try to be better member of community

Favorite Arabic insult, which has also started wars, "May your mother rot in the belly of a pig". Else, "May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits".

When I lived in California, I had many more choices for US carriers. I have probably tried them all at some point in time. Denver is more limited. The primary carriers are United and Southwest. If I choose to fly any other US carrier, I am forced to fly from Denver to one of their hubs and then transfer to my ultimate destination. Not nearly as convenient. United has been ok, and also Delta. When I was teaching, the school district used Southwest or United. Southwest was much better domestically when dealing with a group of students. Very accommodating. Had to use United, though, when traveling international with a group. That was sometimes a bit challenging. To be honest, I have many horror stories over the years of traveling with American and have reached a point where I will no longer even consider that airline. If that is my only option, I drive or simply don't go there.

The Sukhumvit branch was previously known as The Cloud. Some of you may have been there before. While they advertise it is 'near' the Onnut BTS, their idea of near and mine are very different. It is not a quick and easy walk. Really requires taking a moto taxi from BTS station to the shop. Because of that, if I wanted to visit this location again I would just opt to take a Grab, Bolt or taxi directly from my lodging to the massage shop and forget about BTS altogether. Just my personal opinion... Facilities are decent, but no elevator and as is the case with most of these massage shops, rooms are on the upper floors with lots of steps to climb. This may be a deterrent to some people. No ensuite facilities, either. Some of the Prestige therapists are available at either shop. Some only work at Sathorn, while some only work at Sukhumvit. You will need to clarify with administration when making a reservation who you are requesting and which location they work from. The reason I ultimately decided to go to the Sukhumvit location is my interest in one particular therapist who only works at this location. For that reason, and only that reason...he was good enough that I would return!