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After Beef, forum member and I decided to check out Side at Soi Wall Street. Side is a 4 storey coffee place for meet ups with cruising areas. On weekend nights, they have special programme. Last night Saturday night they had go go dancers dancing on stage. Tonight Sunday night they had hired guys available for fun in dark room. The room was so pitch dark that you can't see your hand in front of you so you had to feel your way around. Two hired guys took turns in dark room. Average types. There are also themed rooms for kinky play - classroom, office and locker room. I witnessed two Thai guys in late 20s jerking each other off in office themed room with another 2 guys touching them. Basically sauna but everyone is fully clothed (and holding iced coffee) as they explore the rooms. Forum member and I spent about 45 minutes then we got hungry and we went to nearby Sarica for dinner. About 15 guys cruising throughout our time at Side. Mostly locals.

The going rate in 1985 was 300b short time, 500 overnight. I lived with a few boys from a Silo lm bar as a 19 yo backpacker. Adjusted for inflation that would be 1500 and 2500 respectively. That said, the boys in 1985 were younger, fitter and far more charming than most you'll meet in Bkk today.

Anyone with recent info (2025-2026) on the state of affairs at Alte Lampe?

Nuns? I didn't know they were all transvestite!

Excellent service from LCY, I took it a number of times. Actually an Airbus 318. A 737 is not permitted to fly from LCY. The 318, smallest of the family, didn't have the range to reach JFK, with reserve fuel, hence had to refuel in Shannon, thus the stop, and US immigration. Due to upper atmosphere winds, came back non stop. It was supported, financially, by some major City organisations, but Covid put an end to that. As I recall, flight no was BA001! Only 32 (or36) seats, all business, flat beds. In my experience, never full!

Agree a full bodied red would overshadow the subtleties of fish, however a Beaujolais Nouveau being a versatile little number goes well with charcuterie, poached / cold smoked salmon and the classic pepperoni pizza. As for carpets, the Wetherspoons experience is one to experience if you haven't already.

Or the tricks they get up to using video calls to make sponsors think they are faithful and living like nuns 🤣

I met forum member at Silom Road outside his hotel Ibis Style and we walked to Beef. When we reached Beef, the bouncers said photo identification was needed before entry allowed. I knew this was their practice because I had been to Beef once but that was for disco at night. Flea market still need photo id? Yes, the bouncers insisted. So I asked forum member to explore Silom Edge while I went back to airbnb to get passport. 15 minutes later, we finally entered Beef to visit their flea market. By the way, entry wasn't free. Entry costs 100 baht. No cash accepted. Only cashless payment. Thank goodness I had my credit card. (This club has many rules!) Inside, the place was packed! Local Thai gay crowd. Everyone was dressed up. Forum member and I stood out in our casual tourist attire. But the fellas at the flea market were welcoming and chatted with us. We didn't buy anything but we enjoyed the vibe and atmosphere. It was a fascinating look at the local Thai gay culture.

I write little about sex in Thailand now - certainly compared to the more than three decades prior to the mid 2010s - but only, as I have written several times, because I am partnered and neither my partner nor I feel the need or desire to experience the local sex scene any more. On the other hand, we both travel a bit and have an agreement that we can be free to indulge in our sexual desires if we so wish. The key to the arrangement is that we always explain later to each other what we have done and we practice safe sex. That out of the way, I had several longish relationships with guys from countries outside Hong Kong where I was based for much of my career. The first was a 25-year old Japanese a few years younger than me who taught me something I had never really encountered before - passion in a relationship. That can be unimaginably great when you are together and yet almost frightening when you are not. I could only meet him once a month, although he did come to stay with me for three weeks. I learned from his friends that his feelings for me were almost as strong as mine for him. But when we were apart he did play around whereas I did not. And the more often we were apart, the more difficult I felt. Jealousy, I know. Jealousy can be very difficult to overcome. As it turned out, while he was never jealous, he needed sex more than I and eventually hooked up with an older Englishman in Tokyo. I was mortified - but I had learned a lesson. The problem with this and other relationships was that I fell for too many guys who lived outside Hong Kong. Since I travelled regularly, sometimes that was not a problem. But that little germ of jealousy was never far away. And I suppose it was only when I was with a Taiwanese guy who really did not play the sex scene that I had my most successful relationship. Five years is not so long, but at that time it was for me. I have never been in a relationship with a bar boy. Some here have and are wonderfully happy. I wish yours will be the same.

As I walked out of soi 6, I thought about where to go next. Back to airbnb? Sauna Mania again just like yesterday? I checked my phone. Forum member was keen to visit Beef which had a special event this particular Sunday - a flea market for gay guys to sell clothing they no longer wore plus miscellaneous stuff such as perfume. There was also a DJ playing music, food stalls and three artists selling artwork and they were also available for portrait drawing and commissioned artwork. Special event was a first time ever held until 10pm then the place would revert back to its normal disco for the night. So i agreed to meet forum member and we go together in one hour time. I went back to airbnb to take a rest.

all to personal preference

To clarify, just because 10% of the 60 minute session was spent on massage doesn't mean that gay Thai massage guy doesn't know how to massage. He knows his strokes and has proper technique. I had massage with him in the past. (It was approximately 80% massage then). But this particular afternoon we were both so horny. We really made a big mess at the end. Thankfully there was ensuite shower in the room and we helped each other clean up.

you can discuss with the massuer this will of course increase the tips

Thanks to the movie, we all know how Alan Turing suffered and then took his own life after admitting he was homosexual. And thanks to years of campaigning, he was been given one of the extremely rare official royal pardons in 2023. He is admired today for his code-breaking skills which helped shorten WWII. His photo adorns the back of the UK's £50 notes. In today's Guardian/Observer, there is another somewhat similar, but very different, historical case of a civil servant being hounded to death. But this case remains an open sore. Sir Roger Casement was knighted by the King for distinguished Imperial Service in 1911. As was discovered in his diaries after his capture, he was also homosexual and proud of it. As the Guardian article points out, Casement remains a taboo subject, "A can containing too many worms." Born in what is now Northern Ireland, the British were adamant that Ireland as a whole remained part of its Empire. Learning of an impending rebellion in Dublin against British rule, Casement returned to the country in an attempt to get the organisers to call it off. He had reckoned without the British Head of Admiralty Intelligence, an eccentric and ruthless Reginald "Blinker" Hall. Casement grew to abhor Britain's imperial rule and eventually earned a distinguished record of service exposing atrocities in the Congo and Peru. He was eventually to be described as the "father of twentieth-century human rights investigations." But he was also an Irish patriot and nationalist. After resigniing from the Foreign Office in 1913, he gave his time to fostering Irish Independence which set Hall against him. He travelled to Germany to win support and gain military aid, mostly by recruiting Irish prisoners of the Germans. He heard about an Easter Uprising against British rule due to take place over the Easter weekend in Ireland in 1916. He was deeply opposed. A cache of arms was sent from Germany but Casement set out at the same time to persuade the leaders of the Uprising to call it off. Landed by a German submarine in Ireland in avdance, Casement was suffering from a recurrance of malaria and too ill to meet the leaders. He could have been rescued but these leaders had insisted that not a shot be fired in advance of the Uprising in case it was discovered by the British. The Uprising took place. It was mercilously crushed by the British. Captured, Casement was accused of high treason, sabotage and espionage. During the trial, excerpts from his diaries were released to various sources alleging that Casement was also a "sexual deviant, fond of young men, especially teenagers, and usually paid for sex." Found guilty, he was hanged on 3 August 1916. Several investigations during the rest of the century came to the conclusion that the diaries may have been forged after his death. Yet that has never been proved. As Turing is regarded as a gay martyr in Britain, so Casement is being considered the Irish Turing. Yet Ireland is less willing to reopen the Caement issue, that diary being its main reason. Turing was convicted for having sex with one adult man. That Casement may have lured teenagers into his bed is not acceptable in Ireland. Was Casement a rebel or a traitor? We really do not know. All we do know is that he was gay and may have been officially murdered for that reason.

Yes I heard about the « Himmel ». I think it’s the Heile Welt but still not verified. do someone know the Bahnhof viertel in Francfort ? I know it’s a women prostitution place but I heard about lot of rumanian and arab men hustlers too. Can someone confirm ?

To me that is still not a valid argument! Passengers from 'suspect' countries are already singled out and sent to a separate queue for special screening. That even used to be the case for flights which originated in Bangkok until the turn of this century! My guess is that with most air travel being in, to or from the USA in the early days, no one even considered the possibility of connecting flights. Then Canada came into the mix. Instead of altering airport designs, some bright spark came up with the idea of installing US customs and immigration facilities at the major Canadian airports. It happened once in Europe when BA ran a 737 out of London's small City airport with a short stop to go through USA customs and immigration at Shannon. Personally I know of no others.

Just as well. Video calls can be tricky if they're in the middle of a...errr...trick. 😒

I can't speak for the other guys, but when my boy asked me to turn over, he had already put a condom on.

Well, it took me a long time to find the photos. It is now a few weeks since I was at Fafa, but I am fairly sure that Thiw is the guy I chose.

I’m not a fan of this thread, I feel I need a shower.

Bumps or bums? 😉

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I am hoping that by sharing a few thoughts here @jimmie50 may be spared some of the bumps in the road I’ve encountered! Boy-shaped bumps.

There was this big boy who entered a playground and started picking on a smaller guy, insisting that he hand over his collection of toy guns. He broke the boy’s left arm and declared victory. But the boy hit him with his right arm. He broke the right arm but the boy started using his legs. Worse, he started to kick out at the big boy’s friends, landing a few blows here and there which left them bruised. The whole playground of kids crowded in for a look. The big boy kept spluttering: “I won! I won!’’. But the little one was still breathing and spitting back. Big boy told his friends to “help, help’’ and called them cowards. But they didn’t seem keen on joining the melee. It wasn’t their fight, they said. They were more concerned about the little guy keeping the key to the pantry where their lunch packets were kept. “Open it up! Open it up! We’re starving!’’ they told the little guy who merely grinned at them. The big boy, who was losing face minute by minute, said he would get his extended family to the playground to do more whacking - or maybe not. That he would go home since he already won - with or without the toy collection. Or maybe not. Threatening to unleash hell on earth, he rained curses on the little guy, invoking God’s name: “Good God! What the hell do you think you’re doing! I will obliterate and annihilate you!’’ This was Friday. On the third day, the little guy got up. Wishing all friends and forum members who celebrate a happy Easter. 🫶

All that can be true in a relationship back at home, to some degree there are always risks. But hopefully things work out.