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Offing boys from bars is a niche activity, and will be more difficult to sustain without a predictable supply of boys from neighbouring countries. Asian tourists, and locals, often prefer the massage experience, as evidenced by the large and highly segmented number of massage shops in Bangkok and the fierce competition between them. If the Chinese like a venue they will promote it on RedNote and they will often pose together with their favourite masseur.

You’re circling something real here, but I think the frame needs tightening. What you’re reading as “weird pricing” is less about Singha leaving money on the table, and more about how different shops in Bangkok deliberately position themselves within a very segmented market. Ssense is not trying to be everything to everyone. It sits in that middle lane, and quite intentionally so. Ssense caters to both a local Thai clientele and a steady foreign crowd. Younger Chinese book Singha or Knott and take photos with them, and they all end up as a review on RedNote. This composition matters. Local regulars anchor the business. They expect consistency, discretion, and predictable pricing. It is also gay-owned and operated, and you can feel that in how the place is run. There is a fairly strict sense of quality control, both in terms of who they hire and how services are structured. Supplementary services are not a free-for-all. Prices are set by the shop, and that removes the whole negotiation dynamic you see elsewhere. No haggling, no awkward calibration mid-session. You either accept the menu or you don’t. For many clients, that clarity is part of the appeal. No H services are provided officially by the shop. So yes, could Singha charge 2–3k in a different setting? Probably. But at Ssense, the pricing is not his to float. It follows a standardised band that aligns with similar shops in that category. It is set by the shop and therapists are not allowed to diverge. That’s the trade-off. Stability, volume, and a controlled environment over maximising individual upside per client. In terms of positioning, I wouldn’t call Ssense “upscale” if you’re comparing it to places like Titan or Prestige. Those lean harder into a curated, almost boutique experience, with pricing to match. But Ssense is noticeably fresher and better managed than older venues like Chaichana or Green. It feels current. Clean lines, younger roster, tighter operations. Where your comparison with History of Massage is useful is in highlighting the contrast in business models. History runs a much looser system. No mandated central tip level, and the guys can present options directly. That opens the door for higher earnings per session, but also introduces variability. The massage itself is often not the headline product there. Let’s be honest. You’re paying for physique, for presentation, for the aesthetic labour that goes into those gym-built bodies. It’s a different value proposition. Ssense, by contrast, sits closer to what places like The Signature Massage aim for. More structured. More service-led. Less transactional improvisation. Stepping back, Bangkok’s gay massage scene is highly stratified. You’ve got budget walk-in shops, mid-tier hybrids like Ssense, physique-driven venues like History, and then the more premium, almost spa-like environments. Each comes with its own pricing logic, client expectations, and internal rules. So the question isn’t really whether Singha could earn more elsewhere. It’s what ecosystem he prefers to operate in. Some guys optimise for margins. Others for consistency, volume, and a workplace they’re comfortable in. In that sense, the market is working exactly as designed. Pick the segment that suits you, and the pricing starts to make a lot more sense.

Olddaddy is going to love you. 😍🥰

That would be great Btw I meant 21-25 April, not May. I am mid 30s but dont mind whatever age

I once had the privilege of attending a private birthday-party performance by Mark Bunyan, who was canonised by the SPI as St Mark of the Musical Tendency.

Agreed. But as the No. 2 executive of a major airline stated unequivocally that it appears depending on the origin of the ticket, that has to be one reason. As hinted in the ChatGpt list.

Like the top one!

She's in the right place!

TheGur The Guardian is owned by the Scott Trust, which also owned the Observer, until last year. The Observer was sold off, to Tortoise Media, but the Scott Trust retains a shareholding. So there was/is, a close connection.

Yes, it does. Forum numbers do meet up and some of the Pattaya residents would be happy to show you around if need be. They'll either contact you here or message you privately.

I had heard about the possibility of the Rabbit card and the MRT cards being merged. But there was a problem in that seniors get half price on the MRT and the Skytrain was not prepared to accept that. I do have the half price card and understandably would prefer not to give it up.

Ok, thanks!

I've had SSSS a couple of times, I dontthink i fit into the categories mentioned above, so i think it was random. Just another bag search, nothing dramatic.

I don't mind carrying a card as long as it's one card for all the public transportation networks. Thanks for the update @Patanawet.🤞

just a semi-related side note, i think i saw somewhere here forum members meet up. I am gonna be in Patt 21-25 May would be good to catch up with someone/people one night rather than be solo the whole time, does that happen?

'Trump is a weak, unhinged bully - he's lost the plot and is now losing the war' "Donald Trump’s unhinged, expletive-laden outburst exposes a reckless leader spiralling in a war he created, leaving the world facing dangerous consequences of his chaos-driven leadership" ~~ MIRROR ~~

I was reading how Churchill, Manitoba on Hudson Bay is known for its large polar bear population. Perhaps Canada should convince Hoekstra to go for a walkabout down by the rocky shore to mingle with the migrating bears.

How are the wheels on those, I'm in need of new luggage... always had Eagle Creek with the heavy duty wheels...have an Osprey brand waiting for me in Singapore airport, also heavy duty wheels but haven't seen it in person ...yet.

I recently went to use my Rabbit card and was told it needed renewing. I protested (politely) that it was barely a year since I renewed it after it's 7 year validity expired. "Oh, it's all changed now -- renewal is annually". Oh shit I thought, I'd renewed my passport since then and NEVER carry the original with me. Luckily I had tatty B/W copies of new and old with me --- and they sufficed. This was at Saphan Thaksin skytrain station. I've recently read that 'soon' all ticketing will be combined skytrain/subway/busses and only via a phone app. No more physical tickets! But then, how many years have I been reading this in the local press?

@jimmie50 .... @hank75 and @mauRICE have given very useful and wise information/advice. You've seemed very level headed so far, so don't go off the deep end overthinking it. I almost fell down when I read you wanted to pay bar 3 months of off 🥺 Hank is right, they'll take him back or he can go to another bar, they need him too. But staying in BKK or Pattaya, may be too much temptation for one or both of you- he with his friends and you with "massage" or a cuter guy---better to go spend time together somewhere else, no? Wait....time and patience, don't rush into sending payments, if your future time together proves mutually amorous then do something special with the accumulated money you've put aside instead of sending it. I'm in Bali and have met someone that I really like and he appears to like me, not a money boy by trade but we met on Grindr...I might write about my time in Indonesia soon, when I can focus my thoughts and have more free time. But you came to my mind as he and I have been spending time together, I remind myself...don't get too goofy, he lives on the other side of the world and I'm a whore, most of us on this site are, whether you admit it or not 😝 He asked if I'm happy being with him, point blank... I said, "vamos a ver" let's see 😉

You wouldn't have met him if he didn't have this line of work. I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, wholesome, natural things that money can buy. 💸

Hoekstra may be the only American who is more hated than Trump in Canada. He behaves like an asshole.

If Barron enlists he could always work with the Marine's TMZ like JD Vance did

Someone is over compensating. You just know he drove a TransAm in his early days

With all the Incompetent-in-Chief's to hide facts and hobble independent reporting on the economy - the private sector itself needs decent information and is generating itself - and it's bad. The USA lost 90,000+ job in manufacturing alone in 2025. There has been a net zero in job creation over the last six months. Just like in his first term the Incompetent-in-Chief was handed a growing economy and he fucked it up. First term by his incompetence during the COVID pandemic, this time through his billionaires first agenda.