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Yes, rest in peace. A popular guy. My regular guy knows him personally. He sent some money back to Vietnam to the guy's parents for funeral expenses.

At Freshboys, the minimum fixed price for short time is 2500 baht which is mandated by management. The popular guys are welcome to quote 3000 baht if they wish. At other bars, the price is generally 3000 baht before negotiations. I believe it is because of the quoted 2500 baht price at Freshboys that word spread around Chinese customers which is why Freshboys is popular with them.

1500 to 2000 baht rates for short time is available by freelancers on Grndr and other apps. At the bars, there is a sort of minimum fixed price set by the management. This makes it easier for clarity and consistency when customers ask mamasans about the cost for short time. A minimum fixed price protects the guys from customers who may want to pay less. But of course, the guys are welcome to accept a lower fee when customer negotiate directly with them for services that exclude sex e.g. accompanying customer to another bar to drink.

Now I am starting to drool LOL.

A friend and I used to do a lot of bar hopping on Sunday evenings. For a time Classic Boys at the end of Soi Twilight was one of our regulars. When they put the price of drinks up, we told the doorman we would not enter unless we were charged the "usual - i.e. old - price. It always worked, at least for the first drink. We never had to pay the increased price!

Sad news arrived from Vietnam. One of Jupiter boys was attending friends wedding and on his way back died in motorbike accident. May he rest in peace.

While I have always regarded the amount of a tip as an individual choice, I do find the issue of tipping interesting. When I first started regularly visiting bars and offing guys way back in 1980. I was giving tips of Bt. 500, and I believe this was what most if not all offered as 'off' tips . Certainly it was easier to give one note when the alternative would have been finding a few red Bt. 100 notes! With the US/Baht peg, that was the equivalent of US$20. With Thailand's economy only recently having started to develop in the 1970s, all the bars were staffed by Thai boys mostly from the countryside where the alternative was either working the paddy fields or in village Mom & Pop stores. Bt. 500 tips were therefore very welcome. Thailand's official inflation rate has fluctuated quite wildly from 19.7% in 1980, dipping thereafter to an average of around 4% for the rest of the decade, increasing to around an average of 5% in the 1990s (the decade when the massive economic crisis hit*) , down to around 3% in the 2000s and almost 0% in the 2010s, with one further spike in 2024 of 6.08% in 2024. If we assume that the average annual interest rate was 4%, the value of $20 would now be approx. $96 (assuming my calculations are correct!) A tip roughly equal to the Bt. 500 of the 1980s today should therefore be around Bt. 3,100. This does not take into account the effects of the social order campaigns of the early 2000s, the changing face of tourism, nor the surge in the country's economy offering young Thais much greater work opportunities and thereby making bar work much less attractive. In theory at least this should result in an increase in tips! Yet I still see posts in this and another chat room mentioning short time tips ranging generally from $1,500 to $2,000. There is even one poster (not on this Board) who put forward the view that with the minimum wage in Bangkok being just Bt. 400 per day, anyone being tipped Bt. 1,000 should be thrilled! That clearly takes no account of actual circumstances, even though there may be a certain logic to the argument! Not yet in the equation is the fact that most of the boys now come from neighbouring countries which have in general less developed economies and a larger workforce still on the bottom rungs of those economies. With demand and supply in operation, assuming they are attractive to bar goers, they can make a lot more in a much shorter time than would be possible at home. So the case is legitimately made for a lower tip rate. I don't know how to factor in the cost of regular travel between their countries and Thailand nor accommodation costs. But I guess Bt. 2,000 that is often mentioned in this Board is probably about right. Just my thoughts! *Just for interest, with the aim of eventually purchasing a small apartment in Bangkok, in 1998 I converted a large amount of sterling into Baht with HSBC in Hong Kong and placed it on a year's deposit at 20% interest. At the start of 1999, I placed all that and the accrued interest plus some more sterling on a 4 month deposit at an annual rate of 16%. I estimated I made a total of just under 40% interest during 16 months. How the official rates within Thailand averaged only around 4% during those two years I fail to comprehend!

I went back to King of college at a later time (10 pm) since I had such good memories a of this place from my visits over a decade ago, I really wanted to see if I could get the same good service as I used to. The line up was much better than at 8, 9 boys to choose from 3 were very attractive to me. The manager explained that 2 of the boys were only for chatting and drinking with, not for sex. Well that’s new. I chose to have a drink with one of those who was available for sex, with the prettiest face. The boy was 21, he told me his name was Aoi, and he was half Filipino but spoke only Tagalog and Japanese, very poor English. He said he didn’t do anal, but I explained I didn’t need to fuck, (since I had just finished with Ippo from TK), so just sucking and worshipping his hot body would be enough, so he agreed to go to a room with me. I told him that the first time I came to this bar, he was only 4 years old. He laughed. The room are in the building next door, they actually each are a studio apartment which feels very private. Aoi turned out to be a pillow princess, gorgeous, but just expecting me to do everything. At some point I asked him to suck me and he said he didn’t suck. So I said at least you have to fuck me, I tried to put his dick in me but he asked for a condom. Fine by me, except by the time the condom was on, he started to get soft. We didn’t manage, he wasn’t hard enough to fuck me. After a while, I cut my losses and left to see if I can find better at the same king of college bar. It was late, 11:30 and only 2 boys were left that had not been snatched by other clients. I got Maede, who was one of the 3 that I found super attractive. He was 26. We went straight into another room, no drinks. He had such beautiful eyes. His body wasn’t as toned as most of the guys I usually like, but he made up for it with a lot of efforts. First he really enjoyed kissing and sucking me. Then he did fuck me without a condom and made me cum, which was awesome. He didn’t cum but I was fine with that. I left happy, but my conclusion is that King Of College has advantage and disadvantages: The main advantage is that you can see the guys in real before you invite them for a drink. Then you can talk to them and explain what you want to do, to make sure that he will be fine with that. The main disadvantage is the limited hours at which you can find a good line up. Most of the boys don’t really turn up until 9:30 pm, and they get snatched up pretty early, so by 11:30 i had only 2 left to choose from. Also, no listing and photos of the boys online. In general the boys in Japan are surprised to get rimmed, even though in the shower I make sure to spend a lot of time cleaning that area of theirs, they don’t seem to guess why I do that. None of them rimmed me. It doesn’t seem to be common in the Japanese gay culture? But their asses are so perfect how could I not?

On a different night I went back to TK and explained I didn’t have a reservation but and asked for those available right now. Among those (about 10 boys), I chose Ippo. His photos are here: https://kids-jp.com/tken/boysp.html?key=1675418712 The photos they showed me didn’t have his eyes covered and I thought I want to tap that! Once in the room, shower, sucking, rimming, kissing passionately etc. and the time to fuck that gorgeous ass. We go into missionary and I am glad to report I lasted a bit more than 10 minutes for once (I have had several instances recently where a warm hike made me cum in just 2 minutes. It was awesome I jizzed inside him and that turned him on, he started masturbating furiously and came a couple of minutes later, while I was still inside him. He seemed to be very happy to have done a good job.

Agreed. But @Keithambrose who has criticised others for not providing sources, this time himself gives no source. So we do not know if that is in one day or over a period of time. Checking the internet, the news seems to have come from among others Yahoo News and Japan Today which state "nearly 500,000 flight tickets were cancelled" and is "spread over three days." Bloomberg is under a paywall but its headline is very clear - Japan Tourism Faces $.1.2 Billion Hit As Trip Cancellations Spike On China Rift https://japantoday.com/category/national/500-000-china-japan-trips-thought-cancelled-after-travel-warning-analyst https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-20/japan-tourism-faces-1-2-billion-hit-as-trip-cancellations-spike-on-china-rift

trying to talk boy to reduce his tip from 1000 to 700 is scroogy, trying to talk him to discount from 1500 to 1200 is market research. When you try to reduce to 2000 from asked 3500 is pointing to market reality and when you try to reduce 10000 tip to 5000 is just attempt to talk sense to him ( although in any of cases above boy may know better ). We know what we are paying but boys know what they are getting.

Jesus Fucking Christ. How did you know Mamdani was the top? Were you in on it, too? And may I remind you my beloved Justin actually enjoyed giving Trump a hand job? Whereas Trump had an obviously hard time getting it up? There. I ruined your whole weekend. Fucking Americans! So sorry.

Cock size, specifically the circumference/thickness. S54 is pretty common from what I've seen in the ads, with several S52's and S56's.. S60 is more rare. I'll attach a pic that Fafa spa recently sent out on Line. https://www.pulse-clinic.com/h3-how-to-measure-the-penis-to-find-the-right-condom-size

I'm wondering if the next administration will be able (or more likely willing) to pass legislation to retroactively recoup the money stolen through the rampant corruption of using the Oval Office like an ATM for the personal enrichment of our current Incompetent-in-Chief. There has never been a more corrupt (and incompetent) occupant of the Oval office than the Trump crime family.

Stop. I really don't want to think of Mandami fucking a TACO

Excuse my ignorance: what's "S60" ?

Trump, Mamdani make love — not war Fact: You've been awful quiet today, Sis. Fact: Mamdani and Trump made love. Fact: It happened behind closed doors. Fact: My Dearest And Darlingest Sister In Cock @Suckrates has been quite open about how she'd like to get it on with New York's hot new Mayor. Or perhaps she's just had something to chew over today? Inquiring minds want to know, Sis. I mean, it fits in thematically, after all. Trump and Mamdani got it on around affordability. And my Sis and I have always been cheap whores. 🤔 Seriously, kudos to both Mamdani and Trump. What it proves is that Mamdani is actually quite politically adept. Who knew? And Trump is once and always a media whore. Is my Beloved Sis guilty of having a sordid three way? I'd say the jury is hung. Which makes it even better for you, Sis. 💞

I'm not sure why anybody bothers to engage with Moses. He's a Russian Bot, not a thinking human being. I think he'd only be useful if I had a garden. Push his Russia button, and a lot of shit comes out. He's been on my ignore list for quite a while now because reading his posts makes me dumber. I'd encourage others to do the same.

Posters on the windows said something about being closed and re-opening in the near future.

Doesn't it open at midnight every night? Certainly they are showing it on their Tiktok most days

Good to know you have fun in KL. Going rate varies here, from rm150-500 for freelancer, depends on what is being offered (lite fun vs full sex) and if he is muscular vs twink, handsome vs average. At the few underground massage center, a full service for 1 hour can be about rm200-250, and most of the time, if the service is good, people tend to add rm50-100 as tips. So rm300 not that far off indeed and since the guy accepted it without negotiating, is a good rate for him. Definitely not stingy.

We love the manly, harsh Steve. ❤️ And so true, about those liberal, woke nitwits. It's tiring. Even Mr. Rogers knew.

I hate to be harsh. But you liberal whiners disgust me. Traitors! Perhaps some of YOU need to be hung. Then again, perhaps some of you are. 😉 The Middle Class Is Buckling Under Almost Five Years of Persistent Inflation Even the Wall Street Journal is now betraying our President, as he makes America great again. All this proves to me is that Trump is a man of his word. He has gotten prices down. Why are you traitors whining about it?

This can be misread. I think you mean 500,000 journeys cancelled. Airlines don't operate as many as 500,000 flights.

Thanks for a detailed report! That grindr guy you got in bangkok looks hot! Btw, at midnight, your best bet is goodboy, as they close at 2am. Or stroll around patpong, soi tawan, surawong and silom, and you might see the boys leaving bars and eating/buying stuff at one of the many 7e and of course at foodland patpong