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The basic concept may have come from Japan but if you are used to Jomtien host bars, don't go anywhere near one in Japan. The reason is twofold. First the best known Tokyo ones are in Shinjuku's Kabukicho district where they are virtually all for young girls. More importantly, you'll need several credit cards and thousands in the bank - of $$ not ¥! The whole point of these bars is not to get close to a girl outside the confines of the bar and not to have sex with the customers - although both occasionally happen. The aim is to develop a relationshp with a girl who will come back to spend time and oodles of cash on booze with you as often as possible. As a host on one youtube video says "These bars are creating Disneyland for customers and they end up believing they need to revolve their whole lives around this Disneyland." This vdo below has been included in these columns before. So it is slightly out of date. It features the No. 1 host in Japan about 7 years ago, but the principle is exactly the same today. The video starts off with the host arriving at his bar in a new white Lamborghini, a present from a customer. Cost? Probably around US$370,000! He makes tons of cash every month from commissions on the huge mark-ups on premium booze. One 19-year old girl who technically cannot drink alcohol in Japan gladly tells the camera that the most expensive bottle of booze she bought in the bar was a Magnum Decanter of Louis XIII Cognac. For this she paid US$110 - in cash!

I was planning a trip to Bangkok in April for Songkran. However, a friend said he wanted to see the cherry blossoms, so I'll be off to Tokyo again. I might think about June instead - it all depends on the weather.

Are there any H type spas with 40+ daddy type in BKK?

I think Soi 6 is actually a poor comparison. It did not become famous because of social media. It has been well known for decades because of what it offers and how everything is concentrated in one place. You can compare it to a street with twenty furniture shops next to each other. People go there because they know exactly what they will find, all in one area. Soi 6 offers cheap, fast, and very visible access to sex, and that alone has always guaranteed foot traffic. Social media mainly became relevant during Covid as a way to supplement income when bars were forced to close. That does not mean it is the reason Soi 6 is busy now, nor that the same logic applies to boy bars. The dynamics between male–female and male–male markets are simply different, especially online. I also do not buy the idea that people already in Pattaya need social media to discover that Jomtien Complex is a gay area. Anyone who is already here knows exactly what it is and what it offers. There is no added benefit there. I also seriously doubt that people choose a holiday destination because a bar has a TikTok or Facebook presence. More importantly, I do not think the real issue is bars promoting themselves. The issue is customers being filmed and shown online without consent. That was the concern being discussed. There are countless YouTubers walking through these areas filming everyone indiscriminately. You can clearly see people trying to avoid the camera, covering their faces, or moving away, yet the filming continues anyway, often without blurring faces afterward. These creators are effectively making money off people who just want to enjoy a drink in peace. Calling this the new normal does not make it acceptable. It is not normal, and it is not legal. Thailand even announced a crackdown on this type of filming last year, and rightly so. Edit: One additional point that is worth mentioning: arguably the busiest lady bar in Pattaya, Windmill, has a very strict no filming policy. There are clear signs everywhere, and every customer is explicitly informed of this rule by the doormen before entering. Privacy is taken seriously there, and it clearly does not hurt business. It is also worth noting that Windmill is not even located directly on Walking Street itself, but in a side soi, yet it still attracts huge crowds consistently. That rather undermines the idea that constant visibility, filming, or social media exposure is a prerequisite for success. These bars thrive on word of mouth in places where their potential customers already gather, such as forums and community spaces. That is exactly how I, and many others, find out what is going on in Pattaya.

In January 2027

Count me in lol in my dream

I just seat in front of mirror

Although, ive had heard guys from fake club do went with customer after bar closes. As with any working guys, things can happen if there is mutual attraction, physical or monetary. Perhaps, its much easier to "date" one of the guys in host bars than say random guys we found in restaurants or construction site? Hehe. I stopped pursuing my beach chair attendance at pattaya when he is attached, sadly to a girl lol

Already 2027

That I would have "fun" starting a very important discussion for men on the very serious subject of circumcision rather illustrates how you go about writing your frequently barely intelligible posts. You're clearly having fun in your own little world.

If I want someone to sit with me for a drink, I can go to pool bar and buy bartender a drink for much less. I usually have a soda and am ok if he does too. A bar boy who was between games had a soda….

Agreed, my time in Thailand is limited. I can find better uses for my resources. Like eating banana fritters at Foodland (I may have become obsessed). Or walk in Lumpini park, Or a massage, or Gogo bar,

Yes, it's bad in Thailand but it is not confined to the rich and powerful. It is endemic. Go around the country and you will discover examples almost everywhere. I doubt if you can divide corruption into the bad and the less bad (is palming a few red bills to an underpaid traffic cop to avoid a traffic ticket corrupt?) but throughout much of Thailand's history those in villages have more or less had to look after themselves. A dependency grows among communities. Put at its simplest, I guess, almost an I scratch your back, you scratch mine mentality develops. Wth democracy it has got much worse amongst the elite and the mega-rich. Against that you have sometimes amazing acts of generosity. It hardly feels like more than seven years since those 12 young boys and their soccer coach were trapped in a northern cave for 17 days. In order to attempt to free them, a massive amount of water had to be pumped out of the cave system. The only place it could go was into the fields of local villagers thereby destroying their crops. The government offered the farmers compensation. All refused it. So many people from all over the globe were participating in the hoped for rescue, they said. The farmers also wanted to help. But Thailand is only one Asian country where corruption is rife. Economically speaking The Philippines has been repeatedly raped by a clutch of ruling families who have become mega-wealthy. Endemic corruption has ruled for decades at the head of Japan's supposedly squeaky-clean government. Hong Kong was virtually a cess-pit of corruption until the government introduced a fully Independent Anti-Corruption Commission (ICAC) with its own police and judiciary in the mid-1970s. Suddenly some of the big players fled the city, including a Chief Justice whose nickname was Brenda, top lawyers, high-placed police officers and civil servants. It quickly cleaned up Hong Kong. Not squeaky clean since major corruption cases still feature in the headlines - but only very occasionally. At the turn of the century when a local newspaper did a poll of Hong Kong residents asking them to nominate the ten best things to have happened in the territory during the previous century. The establishment of the ICAC came in around 6 or 7.

So, does this mean you are currently in Bangkok? Did I miss some travel update...or is it already 2027?!? LOL.

If you want to experience karaoke in Bangkok, let me know and I will arrange for you! 🥰🥰🥰

Hmmmm

As older then us you remember those days better

Too bad, I was not there, love the song and can sing in original, if only to scare cocroaches away.

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Very noble undertaking

Speaking about all that paying guys to drink, idea which I don't like. On Wednesday I went to Prince, basically to reaquaint myself with Bangkok princely way. One of boys on display was guy I recalled from Jupiter so selection was easy. While going through stamp collection we talked and I asked him about reason to move. His answer was he couldn't stand all that driking forced on him day after day.

Wow. Another meltdown, and that is just for me pointing to a fact. This would be your second one if my memory does not fail. I could share your nickname in CoM if I wanted to, but it is unnecessary. Everyone can identify your gibberish. Saúde!

You not alone

While it's true about to sets of laws, for rich and poor, I'd not be singling out just Thailand. Recall OJ Simpson case in case one tends to be too sanctimonious about justice system in other countries. But I agree that Red Bull heir case brings shame to Thailand so called elites, am sure girls from Patpong have more virtues than them.

Same here. If none of the hosts are able to be taken off for some fun, then it doesn't interest me all that much. Cannot see the value of paying money just to have someone sit with me for a drink. Just my take on the situation.