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Part 2 The next day, I was free until late that evening when SB (my Indo sugar baby muscle boy) was to arrive from Jakarta. I used the day time to enjoy the super posh Park Hyatt pool deck on the 9th floor, which is stunning. The deck has a saltwater infiniti pool and terraced sunbed areas. Great personalized service at the pool, which is also connected to the breakfast restaurant, La Marina, which is excellent. The breakfast was included in my rate, and it had a nice buffet of hot and cold items, but you could also order off the menu. They had western and Thai items. One of the items that I really enjoyed was a “Mango sticky rice French toast”. Wow… yes, its really a fusion of western and Thai, but it worked—delicious. The barista made coffee here is amazing. I really enjoyed the Coconut Long Black iced coffee. After my morning breakfast and time at the pool… it was time to go get some sexy massage time. This time, I booked at History of Massage. History of Massage was really close to my hotel, so I decided to take the BTS Skytrain directly from my hotel (BTS Phloen Chit) there. History is located very close walking distance from BTS National Stadium station. I wanted to buy a stored value Rabbit card to be able to access public transit easily. I tried to buy my Rabbit card at Phloen Chit BTS station, but apparently, I have a newer US Passport, that has more modern technology than older versions. Not all BTS stations can actually read these passports I was told. They nicely checked, and the National Stadium BTS station did have the special readers, so I bought a regular ticket, and went to National Stadium station, and I bought a Rabbit card and added 600 THB to the card so I would be able to use it a lot. You have to make sure you bring your physical passport in order to buy the Rabbit card. (thanks to this forum, I saw a member share that tidbit). I walked in the super hot March sun from National Stadium BTS to History of Massages which is just about 10 minutes walk from the station. It is located in an upscale retail and dining complex called Stadium One (there is a nice gym, coffee shops and restaurants here as well). History of Massages is on the second floor of Stadium One. I walked into the shop, and there was no one at the front desk. Just a small clipboard on the desk with the massage request form on it with my name and time written in. I booked my massage at the very moment that the schedule opened for him—about 10 days beforehand. They required a full prepayment via card, and I prepaid the 1790 THB in advance for the 90 minute massage—arguably on the expensive side for BKK gay massage. I sat down, and within a few moments, a receptionist greeted me and provide me with a cold towel, and some cold tea. I was then greeted by Sunji. Wow… he is stunning. They do not show his face on their website, but he is very model-handsome. He is also older than most massage therapists—I would say he is in his late 20s to early 30s. Sunji walked me to the massage room. This place is very clean, and very posh. The massage room was basic… but tastefully modern. There is only a shower in the room, no toilet. In fact, the toilet is outside of the shop in the Stadium One complex. Sunji speaks English, and discussed with me what kind of pressure I would like and if I had any requests. I told him that I had a massage yesterday, and I was pretty worked over—I would prefer a softer massage that was more sensual. He smiled and we started… he asked me to take a shower, and then lie on the table. He excused himself and returned. They use a very light sheet covering at History. Sunji first used the sheer sheet to pat me down and dry me further from the shower. I picked the hot oil aromatherapy massage, and Sunji complied with my request for soft and sensual. It was super great. I could tell Sunji had massage skills, but this was more sensual than massage. He often would caress his hands between my ass and balls, softly flicking places he knew would be sensual to me. After the first 45 minutes of our 90 minute session, he turned me around and started on my front—very sensually massaging my arms, chest, and legs. I then asked him about extra services… I didn’t wait for him. He then explained that he had two options: 1. He would be shirtless and do a HJ—for 2000 THB or 2. He would be fully naked and do a B2B massage with HE for 4000 THB. I picked option 1. Actually option 1, was far more than I expected. I told Sunji that I knew he was one of BKKs most famous and hottest muscle massage therapists, and that I booked him weeks in advance. And that I loved to worship beautiful muscle men. I asked if I could worship his flexing muscles and this really revved him up. Sunji stripped out of all of his clothes, and was immediately hard when I was worshipping his flexing body. I cannot tell you how hot and beautiful this man is. Completely smooth, no tattoos, and pure muscle. He jumped up on to the table and straddled me while he was flexing, and playing with my cock. He poured some of the hot oil onto his chest and I rubbed it all over him. Periodically, he would bend over and kiss me. He gave me a very hot HJ happy ending. He then toweled me off, and continued the massage by giving me a great sensual neck and head massage. He asked me to take a shower, and he excused himself. Afterwards I provided him the 2000 THB tip and he hugged me and then took me to the lobby and offered me tea and cookies. I left there very happy. I would definitely go back to History and have Sunji or some of the other beautiful men there service me. I would rate it 9/10. After my visit to History, I went back to the hotel to wait for SB to arrive from the Airport. He texted me when he arrived and it took about 2.5 hours for him to clear customs, get his luggage and Grab it from the BKK airport to the hotel on a Wednesday afternoon at 4PM. After he came upstairs, we both showered together in the huge multi-person sized shower at the hotel, and then proceeded to have a fantastic sex session. SB is a mid-thirties, super muscular gay Indo man. He is short, but his body is a work of art. He has an amazing ass and a relatively perfect sized cock for me. I met him in Singapore in 2018 after hiring him for a one hour sesh via Rentmen. Since then we have had a loose Sugar daddy/baby relationship where we travel together on these types of trips. SB knows BKK well, as he also goes to BKK for White Party, Songkran and all of the gay circuit party stuff. We had a great evening—he took me Dusit Central Park Mall in Silom, via BTS Sala Daeng. We enjoyed dinner at Kub Kao Kub Pla. During dinner, we sat next to famous gay Thai social media personality, Charlie Withayachamnankul (@Charliebralie on IG), which was fun to listen to him chatter on with his gaggle of faghags he had with him. After that… SB wanted to walk me through Patpong market and the gay areas of Silom. We decided on not visiting any of the bars or shows, and headed back to our hotel. A pretty great day. More to come in part 3.

Not a very good reason. I suppose, theoretically, since you had to pick up your checked luggage to go through customs, a wily terrorist could transfer, say, a knife from his checked luggage to his carry-on. In that case, although his carry-on went through security at the departing airport, an item which is allowed in checked luggage but not in a carry-on could be snuck into the cabin. Also, the US probably also feels (probably correctly) that it's a higher-threat target, so doesn't trust every other country's security procedures. What if the original flight came from, say, Libya or Burkina Faso?

Many years ago there was a fashion for huge grand pianos. The BBC was going to order one when someone said "hang on - will it fit through the doors of the hall?". The answer: "we'll make a wooden mockup and try it out". They duly made a lifesize replica piano - only to find that they coudn't get it out of the workshop.

A cynic would say the important detail is that everyone and their baggage goes through US customs & immigration and actually sets foot on US soil. That gives the government more powers to do things to anybody they consider undesirable.

I hope he comes to London!

I would definitely classify my situation as complicated. We actually have used the word 'boyfriend' when referring to each other. Not sure if there is something similar in Cambodia to godson and godfather, but if there is, he didn't mention it. At the moment, I just want to get through the next few months. I cannot begin to imagine 10 years from now. Not sure how often we will do video call. It's nice to just see the other person sometimes. Also don't know that we will text every day. That will partly be due to time difference and schedules, as well as language, but he also doesn't like texting that much. One of the quirky things I learned about him over the last 7 weeks. It will take us some time to figure out likes and dislikes. As @floridarob said, if we make it to the 3-year bar, it is possible we have determined at least some of our likes and dislikes. Getting to the three month bar is the major hurdle at the moment. I am thinking more along the lines of 3 weeks. lol.

I’m really jealous of you right now 😭. My trip to the LOS got canceled because of the situation here in the Middle East. Getting a massage at S’sense is definitely on my to-do list on my return this June👍👍👍 I’m excited to hear more about your trip! 🥰

Not a prude at all and your posts suggest a very youthful spirit. See, your feelings about this and what you want are becoming clearer and more focussed. The above is what feels right for you. For what it's worth, I wouldn't want a boyfriend (or godson) who's turning tricks on the side either.

I don't really have a problem with the fact he has been a sex worker. Let's be realistic about that...it is how we met in the first place. What should have been a one night trick back in October was etched in my mind so the very first club I had to visit was Hotmale to see if he was still working there. Things kind of mushroomed from there to the current situation. Based upon my previous relationships and experiences, I don't believe I would ever use that against him. I simply am not that type of person. He did what he needed to do to support himself and his family. If we were to stay in Bangkok, I would not be surprised if we ran into former customers. Not sure if we are in Cambodia how much of a factor that would be...but still possible. Both parties bring a past to any relationship. I've shared stories with him about my relationships. He even knows a little about my adventures in Bangkok this trip before I started to curtail those activities as things got serious between us. As for forum members...already know of at least one who was part of the group of 7 at G's for dinner who has been with him before. Was not an issue. I think it is important for both of us to be able to maintain contacts and friendships that were established before we met. Where I would have an issue or problem is maintaining any type of sexual relationship. We would both need to be able to set boundaries with former sex partners that it would strictly be a friendship moving forward...nothing more. Probably sound like an old prude at this point. lol.

You mean in Vietnam godfathers sleep with their godsons? Very interesting. And here I thought the weirdest thing about the Vietnamese was that some of them ate cats. It's true what my friends say: I'm far too innocent. 😇

Our relationship is complicated. While he is definitely my guy, I don't call him my boyfriend. I call him "con nuoi" the vietnamese word for godson while he calls me "cha nuoi" which means godfather. We know each other 10 years. I have helped him a lot and he has also been very good for me. We know each other likes and dislikes. We communicate every day but not video call. I personally dislike video call. I find that typing messages is better because we have to think in advance about our message before we type. Sometimes we attach photos or videos of ourselves or our surroundings.

Uh-huh, another Private (First Class). This forum seems to be a magnet for them. 🤦🤷

I've had two long term relationships during my lifetime. Both were monogamous...until they were not...which is what ultimately ended the relationships. I wasn't looking for a relationship when traveling to Thailand...simply looking to explore and have a good time. I certainly did my share of that. Had I not gone on this adventure in the first place, I would have never met Cam. The situation is really like a double-edged sword. From my perspective, having fun with my various escapades changed once the switch was flipped with Cam from just having fun to something more serious. I no longer had that desire to play the game and started to pull back from my other companions. I was happy and content with Cam, and him with me. The switch inside me flipped from party animal back to the monogamous mode. Not sure if that makes any sense or not...still a work in progress.

I mean this is why we went to Thailand . Thai rentboys is just fresh meat , they all submissive and do whatever we want for money.

Sorry it was typo ! I talked about Badmanrobin Richard who also fucked many cute asian, He was also controversial for that (some of them was very young), but richard showed his face.

I had no idea such an arrangement was possible. While we did talk about my concerns regarding his job, we didn't really discuss alternatives at the time. I wasn't sure I wanted it to be like a sponsorship arrangement. We did talk about what his monthly expenses were and what his goal was each month to send to his family. That gave me a general idea if I decided to take on that responsibility. I would prefer to spend the money on him, as well, rather than pay the bar a 3-month off fee. I just assumed that was the only way to guarantee his number and job. You know what they say about assumptions. lol. Sounds like I need to have a serious conversation with Cam about this. Keeping the same number might not be important to him. I know he has had other offers and opportunities to go to different bars, but he prefers and is loyal to Hotmale. He would want to return there if it was necessary.

Your feelings are valid and all too human. Another thing is, if he does stop working in the bar for good, would you be able to accept his past as a sex worker and not use it against him everytime you had a quarrel? What if you and him run into an old customer of his? He might even have slept with members of this forum who have become your friends. How will you cope? Do you expect him to severe all ties with his past? Can you reasonably expect him to?

Why do you feel so affected by Cam meeting other men? It is what he does for a living.

To be honest, I think I could be tolerant and more accepting of this than I am of Cam going off with other men from the bar. That is the real hang up for me in this situation. Trying to work through that and will need to either make peace within myself about his job, or be willing to help build the new house for parents and we both go to Cambodia. As you can tell, my thoughts are all over the place at the moment.

Batman was doing Robin? Why am I not surprised. 😒🤷 They do? 😮 Are you also a Private (First Class)? 🤔

While I would like to place the blame on Orange Overlord #47, the system has been that way in the US for some time. Not sure why we find it necessary when going from one international flight to another that things need to be re-checked and additional security. Screwy system for sure.

or opposite, they want them to stay , not just transit

only those who share this opinion and act on it:

6000 baht is already too much, in my opinion. I agree that he took advantage of poor, defenseless Thai girls. But everyone was doing it at the time (like Badman Robin, for example). But the truth is, he made the right choice by putting all these toyboys online; he didn't tie them up or urinate on them like many tourists do when they come to Thailand. As far as their image is concerned, they're still escorts, so I don't think their opinions or feelings matter at all. They're just cheap labor; that's why we spend all those hours flying. I'm glad I rewatched his videos, and it makes me want to take over from him.