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Trump has BLOOD on his hands, with the latest murders of 2 WV National guardsmen deployed by Trump to DC to "stand around and pick up garbage"..... Yet, the media and politicians are "soft peddling" Trumps responsibility (as usual) for the killings..... If they hadnt been deployed for a Trump publicity stunt, they WOULDNT be DEAD ! Keep your post mortems, and EMPTY thoughts & prayers and denouncements of Political violence...... It aint working......or Helping ! ***UPDATE: Our media is REALLY fucked up !... Reporting NOW that the governor of WV who announced the deaths may have been PREMATURE in doing so, and the guardsmen MAY NOT be dead.... WTF ???? Is Kash Patel running the show ? -
By macaroni21 · Posted
OK, so I made a quick search on rent.men filtered for Bangkok. The majority of the listings are not Thai. They seem to be "working" tourists, expecting to earn their way around the world. Is there a market for them? Possibly. LIke in all cities, even in darkest Africa, there are the One Percent who are filthy rich, and who may want the thrill of reeling in a callboy of exotic ethnicity plus muscular build. A friend of mine who used to live in Hong Kong once told me white girls (mostly Russian) were successfully charging US$500 to 1,000 per hour in the city. Plenty of rich Chinese businessmen from Shanghai or other mainland cities made up the clientele. (He's straight, so he had no knowledge of the the male-male market). Even among Thai sex workers, asking for 5,000 baht or 10,000 baht (US$300) is not unheard of. Personally, I cannot see how paying three to six times the knocking shop rate delivers three to six times the pleasure, but then I am not a member of the One Percent. -
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Thanks for elaborating. Excepting the case of Toy Boys (which I wasn't aware of) what you're describing isn't what I thought you were saying - that the boys were expecting Asian customers to pay more than farang customers. What you're describing is the well-known phenomenon where asking the mamasan about rates begets inflated figures. Many here have long suspected that the higher rate quoted is because she builds in an extra 1,000 for herself on top of the going rate, and she will demand her cut from the boy the next day. It just so happens, if I read you correctly, that Asian customers may be more likely to refer to the mamasan than white customers, though my observation is that the situation is not as simple as a cursory reading of your description might suggest. It's true, I have personally seen mamasans in action in exactly the way you describe. In fact, I wrote about one such instance (with a customer from China) in Pouffes ahoy at Fresh Boy. But I wouldn't suggest that it's a race thing. It's just a confluence of various factors, starting with the fact that perhaps 90% of customers in gogo bars are Asian visitors; many customers (whether East Asian, Southeast Asian, South Asian, Arab, European, or Latin American) are first-time visitors to Thailand and don't know how to negotiate directly with the desired boy (between the boy's weak English and the Asian visitor's weak English, it gets doubly hard); and so it will be unsurprising that most instances when we see mamasans over-quoting the rate to a customer, it will involve an Asian customer. Our observations are skewed by the statistical fact that the great majority of visitors to the gogo bars are Asian. I have seen European visitors ask the mamasan too about rates; they are probably new or infrequent visitors to Thailand, but European customers (both new and wizened) in gogo bars are uncommon. Mamasans are not going to suddenly become non-greedy just because it's a farang customer asking.
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