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    • I was a bit of the class clown on this one. I had lots of discussions with people and posted here about Alan Lichtman's Keys system, which he had used to call almost every Presidential election correctly in advance. In his system, incumbency is an advantage.  And a divisive intraparty fight to select a nominee is toxic.  In general, I think those keys all make common sense.  And they work most of the time in Presidential elections.  I think history shows that.  But it turns out almost for a fact that 2024 was an exception.  Not only in the US, but all over the world.  Incumbency in a time of inflation was a huge negative.  And incumbent parties all over the world suffered big electoral losses.  A related problem is that Democrats tried to stage a coronation.  Nice try.  But it just didn't work.  I'll expand on that below. Trump is doing no better because he made promises about lowering prices that he has not kept.  And now we are on the verge of a health insurance affordability disaster. In 2024 Harris was, in effect, the DEI candidate.  She never won a primary in 2020.  While we will never know for a fact, my impression is Jim Clyburn - who saved Biden's ass in 2020 - pushed hard for him to select Harris as Veep.  Or maybe it was just the obvious point that Biden is a White man and Harris is a Black woman.  Whatever the motivation, she had to jump in and run the race of a lifetime quickly after a painfully awkward period where it became obvious Biden was old and going to lose.  Obvious to everyone but him.  The whole thing was inept.  She was arguably the least inept part of it.  To her credit, she built massive momentum and goodwill.  The "joy" part was real to me.  But she was exciting not because of what she said but because of who she was.  It was identity politics at a time lots of people were reacting against identity politics. Nothing about it felt like Obama in 2008, to make an obvious comparison.  He rose out of nowhere because everything about him resonated with the issues and dynamics of that moment.  In 2008, at the time and in retrospect, it was as if America wanted to rise to the occasion.  In 2024 lots of voters were just pissed.  And Trump was a "fuck you" vote.  As the OP noted, "joy" didn't work so well with young men who had voted for Biden in 2020 and were pissed about the price of rent.  Harris's excuse in her book is it least partly right:  she just didn't have enough time.  But she did not run the race of a lifetime. The interesting "woulda should coulda" is if Biden had followed through on his promise and resigned.  Maybe there could have been an artful campaign to make the heir apparent the seamless winner.  No primary.  Just a resignation and a better coronation process, with messages and policies attuned to the time.  Maybe that could have worked, had it been done better.  It was a close race.  But Harris tried the "kitchen table" stuff again and again.  And nothing she said or did could get her over the hump.  She did not have the wind at her back.  And they did nail her to the cross on identity politics by making her the "us/them" candidate. One huge lesson to me is that politics is not a coronation.  It is a fight over ideas and people and priorities.  And it gets very bloody sometimes.  The risk in 2024 is that Democrats could have had a fight that was so bloody and divisive that it crippled us, had Biden stepped aside and we had a primary.  But instead we got a stage managed campaign that just didn't resonate well enough.  In retrospect, it just looks like a big mistake.  Republicans had a messy primary in which Trump fought hard and prevailed.  Democrats had no primary and moaned about democracy.  Huh?  It is no shocker that for independents the whole thing just didn't connect to how they felt in their gut. We will not have that problem in 2028.  And I don't think Harris will be the nominee.  The issues and priorities that will resonate in 2028 are already becoming obvious.  And Democrats really do have to decide whether they want identity politics, or a fight for the working class.  Those are not either/or.  And as a Gay man I am basically an identity politics guy.  But the working class is less interested in democracy or same sex marriage right now, and more interested in how unaffordable shit is.  And that includes the Black and Latino and Asian American working class.  That is what worked well for Obama in 2008.  Whatever the color of our skin, we are all Americans.  Obama aced that, as a candidate and as a two term POTUS.  Republicans may be fooling themselves into believing that they have cracked that code.  But they have not.  They are hurting the working class, of all races.  And people feel it. The Democrat who fights and focuses like a laser on the working class, persuasively, will prevail.  
    • At least for guys that I like, R$150 is only available in saunas, or maybe in small cities. For the guys in Garotoscomlocal prices seem to have surged even just since the beginning of the year and now (or at least October) R$350 I would say is average. 
    • Or for making any negative posts about our 'dear leader'.  
    • Sometimes can happen when you become more/too familiar with each other. Seems you still had a very good time, especially when you can share some common interests with your boy besides bed activities. Which is rare I think.
    • Start your countdown, my friend! Unfortunately, my trip didn't end on a happy note because of a misunderstanding with my guy. Both of us did silly hurtful actions. But we are ok now after we calmed down and said sorry to each other. We spent the last two days chatting and listening to each other's views. Now we appreciate and love each other more.
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